Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2011-02-18 Thread Wolfgang J Moeller
A while ago, I had complained: > Among the (currently) 1170 full ULTRIUM4C tapes around here, > with a wide variety of data, I see anything between "526.1 G" and "6.1 T". > > What I don't like: 20 % of the tapes are shown with a capacity of < 800 MB, > but only 3.5 % with 1.6 TB or more. This seem

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-17 Thread Maurice van 't Loo
Hi Wolfgang, Just to be sure, isn't <800GB just because data is expired? See if you have reclaimable space on the tape. Regards, Maurice 2010/12/9 Wolfgang J Moeller > Among the (currently) 1170 full ULTRIUM4C tapes around here, > with a wide variety of data, I see anything between "526.1 G" a

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-13 Thread Prather, Wanda
6 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB On Dec 9, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Scott McCambly wrote: > ... > > I always assumed that the hardware compression mechanism would have > something equivalent to "CompressAlways=NO" and detect already > comp

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Roger Deschner
Another consideration is that tape and disk sales people cleverly use base 10, where 1K=1000, instead of what us geeks use where 1K=1024. So a "800GB native capacity" LTO4 tape holds only 800,000,000,000 bytes, which is less than 800GB. You lose 2.4% right there in salesman's tricky fast talking.

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Richard Sims
On Dec 9, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Scott McCambly wrote: > ... > > I always assumed that the hardware compression mechanism would have > something equivalent to "CompressAlways=NO" and detect already > compressed data in its input buffer, however we backup a number of > already compressed file formats

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Prather, Wanda
nopsys.com] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 11:26 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB This is related to a similar question I have been investigating on 3592 media: Why would you ever get less than the native capacity of a tape? Does writing compressed data to

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Scott McCambly
This is related to a similar question I have been investigating on 3592 media:   Why would you ever get less than the native capacity of a tape? Does writing compressed data to tape with hardware compression enabled result in the data expanding? I always assumed that the hardware compression mec

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Hans Christian Riksheim
If a LTO4 tape holds more than 800GB compression is on. At our place, file data only has a 1.1:1 compression while Oracle data and mail is 2.5:1. Overall it is 2:1. Hans Chr. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Mehdi Salehi wrote: > Hi, > Drives are LTO4, devclass is ULTRIUM4C, but all "Full" vol

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Wolfgang J Moeller
Among the (currently) 1170 full ULTRIUM4C tapes around here, with a wide variety of data, I see anything between "526.1 G" and "6.1 T". What I don't like: 20 % of the tapes are shown with a capacity of < 800 MB, but only 3.5 % with 1.6 TB or more. This seemed to be different with LTO3 - unfortunat

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Richard Sims
On Dec 9, 2010, at 3:18 AM, Mehdi Salehi wrote: > Hi, > Drives are LTO4, devclass is ULTRIUM4C, but all "Full" volumes are between > 800GB to 1TB. Is it normal? It seems TSM does not use compression. The physical capacity of Ultrium 4 is 800 GB, so compression is obviously happening. Some data

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Mehdi Salehi
No compression before data gets to the drive. I will check with other kinds of data. Thank you.

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Steven Langdale
ver 2TB on fileserver type data. Steven Mehdi Salehi Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 09/12/2010 08:19 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject [ADSM-L] ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 08/

ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Hi, Drives are LTO4, devclass is ULTRIUM4C, but all "Full" volumes are between 800GB to 1TB. Is it normal? It seems TSM does not use compression. Mehdi