Multiple stanzas unusable: /usr/bin/dsmc already running.

2012-12-12 Thread Ethan Günther
Dear List,

for a client with large filespaces, we would like to split the backup up
into several nodes in order to balance the load. On the basis of the
TSM-client documentation we created several stanzas in the dsm.sys file
with different servername entries. In the init-script several dsmc
processes are started with the -servername option referring to those
stanzas. Now everything works fine with a 6.2.0.0 client (all processes
are started and are backing up as expected).

On a very similar box with client version 6.2.4.4 something goes wrong:
Some dsmc processes are started successfully, some are not, the numbers
vary. So there could be some runtime condition. The error message
(printed on stdout) is: /usr/bin/dsmc already running.

Has anybody observed this issue and knows about a solution?

Best regards,

Ethan


Re: Calculate PVUs for NDMP-backups

2012-12-12 Thread Maurice van 't Loo
According to:
http://www.spec.org/sfs2008/results/res2012q1/sfs2008-20120201-00205.htmlthere
are two E8400 dual-cores, so I'll guess 400 PVU's.
But it's better to contact IBM Sales for this.

Regards,
Maurice van 't Loo
http://mvantloo.nl/


2012/12/11 Hans Christian Riksheim bull...@gmail.com

 Hitachi 3090


Re: Multiple stanzas unusable: /usr/bin/dsmc already running.

2012-12-12 Thread Thomas Denier
-Ethan Günther wrote: -

for a client with large filespaces, we would like to split the backup
up
into several nodes in order to balance the load. On the basis of the
TSM-client documentation we created several stanzas in the dsm.sys
file
with different servername entries. In the init-script several dsmc
processes are started with the -servername option referring to those
stanzas. Now everything works fine with a 6.2.0.0 client (all
processes
are started and are backing up as expected).

On a very similar box with client version 6.2.4.4 something goes
wrong:
Some dsmc processes are started successfully, some are not, the
numbers
vary. So there could be some runtime condition. The error message
(printed on stdout) is: /usr/bin/dsmc already running.

Has anybody observed this issue and knows about a solution?

Are you using the style of script that does the following?

* Store the process ID in a specific file after a successful
  start.
* Delete the ID file after stopping dsmc.
* Refuse a request to start dsmc if the ID file exists and
  contains the ID of a running dsmc process.

If so, I suspect that the scripts are trying to use the same
ID file for dmsc processes associated with different stanzas.

Thomas Denier
Thomas Jefferson University Hospital

Re: permanent retention

2012-12-12 Thread Chavdar Cholev
When create archive copy  group use retver=NOLimit

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Lee, Gary g...@bsu.edu wrote:
 Just received a request to have a few files stored in tsm essentially forever.

 I am trying to figure out the best way to accomplish this with minimal 
 administrative overhead.

 So far,
 1. create a management class with an archive group set for  days, then 
 archive the files.

 2. create a management class and use backup, but I am unclear how to 
 accomplish permanent retention there?

 Any ideas well be appreciated.



 Gary Lee
 Senior System Programmer
 Ball State University
 phone: 765-285-1310




Re: Multiple stanzas unusable: /usr/bin/dsmc already running.

2012-12-12 Thread Alex Paschal
Hello, Ethan.  I've not seen this.  Do they run if you start them manually?  
How about if you remove 6.2.4.4 and backlevel to 6.2.0.0 to match the working 
box?


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Ethan 
Günther
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 1:43 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Multiple stanzas unusable: /usr/bin/dsmc already running.

Dear List,

for a client with large filespaces, we would like to split the backup up into 
several nodes in order to balance the load. On the basis of the TSM-client 
documentation we created several stanzas in the dsm.sys file with different 
servername entries. In the init-script several dsmc processes are started with 
the -servername option referring to those stanzas. Now everything works fine 
with a 6.2.0.0 client (all processes are started and are backing up as 
expected).

On a very similar box with client version 6.2.4.4 something goes wrong:
Some dsmc processes are started successfully, some are not, the numbers vary. 
So there could be some runtime condition. The error message (printed on stdout) 
is: /usr/bin/dsmc already running.

Has anybody observed this issue and knows about a solution?

Best regards,

Ethan


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permanent retention

2012-12-12 Thread Lee, Gary
Just received a request to have a few files stored in tsm essentially forever.

I am trying to figure out the best way to accomplish this with minimal 
administrative overhead.

So far, 
1. create a management class with an archive group set for  days, then 
archive the files.

2. create a management class and use backup, but I am unclear how to accomplish 
permanent retention there?

Any ideas well be appreciated.



Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310

 


Re: permanent retention

2012-12-12 Thread Lee, Gary
Thanks.  Forgot about that one.


Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310

 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Chavdar Cholev
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:49 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] permanent retention

When create archive copy  group use retver=NOLimit

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Lee, Gary g...@bsu.edu wrote:
 Just received a request to have a few files stored in tsm essentially forever.

 I am trying to figure out the best way to accomplish this with minimal 
 administrative overhead.

 So far,
 1. create a management class with an archive group set for  days, then 
 archive the files.

 2. create a management class and use backup, but I am unclear how to 
 accomplish permanent retention there?

 Any ideas well be appreciated.



 Gary Lee
 Senior System Programmer
 Ball State University
 phone: 765-285-1310




Re: permanent retention

2012-12-12 Thread Lee, Gary
Ron:

I understand that archive is preferable, but there is sufficient data there as 
to interfere with daily backups.  Therefore, I want to do it with backups so as 
not to re-move data.

I have a management class permanent-retain with a backup copygroup defined as 
follows:

Copy Group Type: Backup
   Versions Data Exists: 1
  Versions Data Deleted: 1
  Retain Extra Versions: No Limit
Retain Only Version: No Limit


in dsm.opt I have:

INCLUDE.BACKUP *:\Keep\...\* permanent-retain
INCLUDE.BACKUP *:\Keep\...\*.* permanent-retain

Will this do the job and not retain too much data?

Thanks for the help.

Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310

 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Ron 
Delaware
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:08 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] permanent retention

Gary,

You really don't want to use backup's for long term retention, that is an
archive function.  But if you must, you set everything to NOLIMIT NOLIMIT
NOLIMIT NOLIMIT that way the data will hang around forever, but as I
stated, Archives are the way to go
_
Ronald C. Delaware
IBM IT Plus Certified Specialist- Expert
IBM Corporation | Tivoli Software
IBM Certified Solutions Advisor - Tivoli Storage
IBM Certified Deployment Professional
916-458-5726 (Office)
925-457-9221 (cell phone)
email: ron.delaw...@us.ibm.com
Storage Services Offerings



From:   Lee, Gary g...@bsu.edu
To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
Date:   12/12/2012 10:46 AM
Subject:[ADSM-L] permanent retention
Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu



Just received a request to have a few files stored in tsm essentially
forever.

I am trying to figure out the best way to accomplish this with minimal
administrative overhead.

So far,
1. create a management class with an archive group set for  days, then
archive the files.

2. create a management class and use backup, but I am unclear how to
accomplish permanent retention there?

Any ideas well be appreciated.



Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310


Re: permanent retention

2012-12-12 Thread Huebner, Andy
Also consider exporting the data with a very descriptive note taped to it.

Andy Huebner

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Ron 
Delaware
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:08 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] permanent retention

Gary,

You really don't want to use backup's for long term retention, that is an 
archive function.  But if you must, you set everything to NOLIMIT NOLIMIT 
NOLIMIT NOLIMIT that way the data will hang around forever, but as I stated, 
Archives are the way to go 
_
Ronald C. Delaware
IBM IT Plus Certified Specialist- Expert IBM Corporation | Tivoli Software IBM 
Certified Solutions Advisor - Tivoli Storage IBM Certified Deployment 
Professional
916-458-5726 (Office)
925-457-9221 (cell phone)
email: ron.delaw...@us.ibm.com
Storage Services Offerings



From:   Lee, Gary g...@bsu.edu
To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
Date:   12/12/2012 10:46 AM
Subject:[ADSM-L] permanent retention
Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu



Just received a request to have a few files stored in tsm essentially forever.

I am trying to figure out the best way to accomplish this with minimal 
administrative overhead.

So far,
1. create a management class with an archive group set for  days, then 
archive the files.

2. create a management class and use backup, but I am unclear how to accomplish 
permanent retention there?

Any ideas well be appreciated.



Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310


Re: permanent retention

2012-12-12 Thread Ron Delaware
Gary,

The problem you will run into is that the backup data will be mixed in
with all of the other backup data, unless you have a management class that
sends the data to a separate storage pool and tape pool.  If you need to
have this data isolated, archives or a separate storage pool is the only
way to go.
_
Ronald C. Delaware
IBM IT Plus Certified Specialist- Expert
IBM Corporation | Tivoli Software
IBM Certified Solutions Advisor - Tivoli Storage
IBM Certified Deployment Professional
916-458-5726 (Office)
925-457-9221 (cell phone)
email: ron.delaw...@us.ibm.com
Storage Services Offerings



From:   Lee, Gary g...@bsu.edu
To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
Date:   12/12/2012 01:53 PM
Subject:Re: [ADSM-L] permanent retention
Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu



Ron:

I understand that archive is preferable, but there is sufficient data
there as to interfere with daily backups.  Therefore, I want to do it with
backups so as not to re-move data.

I have a management class permanent-retain with a backup copygroup
defined as follows:

Copy Group Type: Backup
   Versions Data Exists: 1
  Versions Data Deleted: 1
  Retain Extra Versions: No Limit
Retain Only Version: No Limit


in dsm.opt I have:

INCLUDE.BACKUP *:\Keep\...\* permanent-retain
INCLUDE.BACKUP *:\Keep\...\*.* permanent-retain

Will this do the job and not retain too much data?

Thanks for the help.

Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310



-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
Ron Delaware
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:08 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] permanent retention

Gary,

You really don't want to use backup's for long term retention, that is an
archive function.  But if you must, you set everything to NOLIMIT NOLIMIT
NOLIMIT NOLIMIT that way the data will hang around forever, but as I
stated, Archives are the way to go
_
Ronald C. Delaware
IBM IT Plus Certified Specialist- Expert
IBM Corporation | Tivoli Software
IBM Certified Solutions Advisor - Tivoli Storage
IBM Certified Deployment Professional
916-458-5726 (Office)
925-457-9221 (cell phone)
email: ron.delaw...@us.ibm.com
Storage Services Offerings



From:   Lee, Gary g...@bsu.edu
To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
Date:   12/12/2012 10:46 AM
Subject:[ADSM-L] permanent retention
Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu



Just received a request to have a few files stored in tsm essentially
forever.

I am trying to figure out the best way to accomplish this with minimal
administrative overhead.

So far,
1. create a management class with an archive group set for  days, then
archive the files.

2. create a management class and use backup, but I am unclear how to
accomplish permanent retention there?

Any ideas well be appreciated.



Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310


Re: permanent retention

2012-12-12 Thread Ron Delaware
Gary,

You really don't want to use backup's for long term retention, that is an
archive function.  But if you must, you set everything to NOLIMIT NOLIMIT
NOLIMIT NOLIMIT that way the data will hang around forever, but as I
stated, Archives are the way to go
_
Ronald C. Delaware
IBM IT Plus Certified Specialist- Expert
IBM Corporation | Tivoli Software
IBM Certified Solutions Advisor - Tivoli Storage
IBM Certified Deployment Professional
916-458-5726 (Office)
925-457-9221 (cell phone)
email: ron.delaw...@us.ibm.com
Storage Services Offerings



From:   Lee, Gary g...@bsu.edu
To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
Date:   12/12/2012 10:46 AM
Subject:[ADSM-L] permanent retention
Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu



Just received a request to have a few files stored in tsm essentially
forever.

I am trying to figure out the best way to accomplish this with minimal
administrative overhead.

So far,
1. create a management class with an archive group set for  days, then
archive the files.

2. create a management class and use backup, but I am unclear how to
accomplish permanent retention there?

Any ideas well be appreciated.



Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310


Re: permanent retention

2012-12-12 Thread Bob Levad
Gary,

Since you're using backup for archiving, you can route these backups to your 
disk/tape archive pools, then you'll avoid having to move the data around much 
once it's been saved.

Bob.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Ron 
Delaware
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 2:49 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] permanent retention

Gary,

The problem you will run into is that the backup data will be mixed in
with all of the other backup data, unless you have a management class that
sends the data to a separate storage pool and tape pool.  If you need to
have this data isolated, archives or a separate storage pool is the only
way to go.
_
Ronald C. Delaware
IBM IT Plus Certified Specialist- Expert
IBM Corporation | Tivoli Software
IBM Certified Solutions Advisor - Tivoli Storage
IBM Certified Deployment Professional
916-458-5726 (Office)
925-457-9221 (cell phone)
email: ron.delaw...@us.ibm.com
Storage Services Offerings



From:   Lee, Gary g...@bsu.edu
To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
Date:   12/12/2012 01:53 PM
Subject:Re: [ADSM-L] permanent retention
Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu



Ron:

I understand that archive is preferable, but there is sufficient data
there as to interfere with daily backups.  Therefore, I want to do it with
backups so as not to re-move data.

I have a management class permanent-retain with a backup copygroup
defined as follows:

Copy Group Type: Backup
   Versions Data Exists: 1
  Versions Data Deleted: 1
  Retain Extra Versions: No Limit
Retain Only Version: No Limit


in dsm.opt I have:

INCLUDE.BACKUP *:\Keep\...\* permanent-retain
INCLUDE.BACKUP *:\Keep\...\*.* permanent-retain

Will this do the job and not retain too much data?

Thanks for the help.

Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310



-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
Ron Delaware
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:08 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] permanent retention

Gary,

You really don't want to use backup's for long term retention, that is an
archive function.  But if you must, you set everything to NOLIMIT NOLIMIT
NOLIMIT NOLIMIT that way the data will hang around forever, but as I
stated, Archives are the way to go
_
Ronald C. Delaware
IBM IT Plus Certified Specialist- Expert
IBM Corporation | Tivoli Software
IBM Certified Solutions Advisor - Tivoli Storage
IBM Certified Deployment Professional
916-458-5726 (Office)
925-457-9221 (cell phone)
email: ron.delaw...@us.ibm.com
Storage Services Offerings



From:   Lee, Gary g...@bsu.edu
To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
Date:   12/12/2012 10:46 AM
Subject:[ADSM-L] permanent retention
Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu



Just received a request to have a few files stored in tsm essentially
forever.

I am trying to figure out the best way to accomplish this with minimal
administrative overhead.

So far,
1. create a management class with an archive group set for  days, then
archive the files.

2. create a management class and use backup, but I am unclear how to
accomplish permanent retention there?

Any ideas well be appreciated.



Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310
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