Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Hi All, Following to IBM's decision to withdraw the web GUI in the latest versions of their clients (thus making NDMP hardly usable), as well as to the renewal of our NAS infrastructure (now using Netapp), I'm trying to implement netapp snapdiffs in our shop. So far we succeeded in defining

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread Del Hoobler
Hi Arnaud, >> ... there's still the limitation that this GUI will be usable only once logged on the machine hosting the Spectrum Protect client What do you mean by "that machine"? The Backup-Archive client is not in the data path for an NDMP backup or restore. The data path is between the

Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Zoltan, If I understood well, your storage is Isilon based : in this case do not even think of using CONTAINER pools, as performance will be horrible. Not much time to talk about this, but to make a very long story short, we are about to dump/trash /resell the brand new Isilon arrays we bought

Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM
Oh, and don't forget that your server requires a significant amount of CPU's when switching to container pools since all deduplication and compression is done inline during your backup window. So when you want to switch in place from file to container, make sure your server has enough cores

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread Robert Talda
Brion: Here at Cornell, we have a TSM client on a Linux system backing up NFS shares via NFS mounts and snapdiff differentials - and have been doing so for years. First, the gory details: - For TSM TSM Client Version 7, Release 1, Level 6.0 (*red faced, thought I had upgraded to SP 8.1.2.0

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread Del Hoobler
Hi Arnaud, Not related to SnapDiff ... but just some info on NDMP and B/A Client... In Spectrum Protect BA client 8.1.6 that GAs this coming Friday (21 September) you will be able to use the native Java GUI to handle NDMP backups/restores. Del

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Hi Del, Thanks for the information, which I got as well thru other channels (IBM support), but there's still the limitation that this GUI will be usable only once logged on the machine hosting the Spectrum Protect client. This means that I will be forced to grant some of my colleagues (which

Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM
Don't forget backupsets, you will lose them too with containerpools. Kind regards, Eric van Loon Air France/KLM Storage Engineering -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Solomon Miler Sent: dinsdag 18 september 2018 16:11 To:

Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Zoltan Forray
Thanks for the tip. Should not be an issue for us since this will be on the Replication Target server only - for now. On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:14 AM Solomon Miler wrote: > Dedup containers do not support 'migrate / export / move node '.The > only way to get rid of data : expire /

Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Zoltan Forray
Thanks for the tip. Should not be an issue for us since this will be on the Replication Target server only - and we don't use backupsets. On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:24 AM Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM < eric-van.l...@klm.com> wrote: > Don't forget backupsets, you will lose them too with

Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Solomon Miler
Well, if you run out of space, options nearly always were to move data to LTO, now options are to buy an expansion to an existing storage array, which cost slightly more than lto. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager On Behalf Of Zoltan Forray Sent: Tuesday, September

Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Zoltan Forray
That space movement issue is our biggest concern - especially since this server is maxed-out on ISILON storage (no where to grow) and to even think of converting to container would be an ordeal. No possibility of tape or expanding disk. On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:38 AM Solomon Miler wrote: >

R: [ADSM-L] Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread Tommaso Bollini
Hello Arnaud, maybe it would be: The NetApp snapshot indicates which files are modified on the LUN (for which their backup is triggered); but the Backup-Archive client cannot "take" them because they are locked by the application. Perhaps you can solve by inserting the appropiate rules in

Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Golbin, Mikhail
Container pools work but you don't have defrag functionality until 8.1.4 - which means it does not release the space it no longer uses. Also you don't get much if any benefit from dedup if you commingle 2 or more container pools into one on the replica. For example you have 2 servers doing

Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Solomon Miler
Dedup containers do not support 'migrate / export / move node '.The only way to get rid of data : expire / delete node. We are on 8.1.1.0 Solomon Miler Senior Data Protection Engineer, VP -- Desk: 201.577.313 Cell  :  917.287.2332

CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Zoltan Forray
We are investigating using CONTAINER pools for our offsite replica server vs the current FILE method which is killing us with the constant dedup, reclaims, etc. So, what are the "gotchas' ? We are still at V7.1.7.400 so I figure we will have to do without any new features added in the V8

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Hi Tommaso, The backup command I'm using (dsmc i /Airwarder -snapdiff -snapdiffhttps -diffsnapshotname="daily.*" -diffsnapshot=latest -useexistingbase -optfile=dsm_netapp.opt) includes the "useexistingbase" statement. Based on my understanding of the documentation, this means that the S.P.