Re: TSM 6.1 deduplication is invalid option for disk primary pools

2009-04-30 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
Thank you very much Colin. I will configure storage pools with device class FILE. Grigori G. Solonovitch Senior Technical Architect Information Technology Bank of Kuwait and Middle East http://www.bkme.com Phone: (+965) 2231-2274 Mobile: (+965) 99798073 E-Mail: g.solonovi...@bkme.com

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Francisco Molero
Hi, the best option to save millions of file under NTFS is using TSM for Fastback. 1.- you can run backups incremental for ever. 2.- you don't have backup windows. 3.- you can integrate TSM for FB with TSM 4.- you can give service very quickly in case of disaster.

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Hi, I enabled the journal service for drive F: of a test windows-based TSM client. Here is the interesting test results: 1- total filesystem size:14GB 2- used space: 370MB (pdf, doc, exe and ... other ordinary files) 3- I enabled journal 4- snapshot image backup was successful 5- the .jbbdb file

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Cheung, Richard
When you 'copied' the directory, did the DATE of the directory change?? Thats probably why it didn't back anything new up.. And thats why incrbydates shouldnt be relied upon always - should always do normal incremental backups as well -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Mehdi Salehi
I added a new directory with 40MB of files in it. This directory is a new one that was not present when the image backup was performed. I think the most rudimentary task that is expected from an incremental backup is to understand newly added files and directories.

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Francisco Molero
If you want to save millions of files in the same directory. Or you change your application in order to create a different directory structure or use FastBack. - Mensaje original De: Mehdi Salehi iranian.aix.supp...@gmail.com Para: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Enviado: jueves, 30 de abril,

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Francisco, Thanks for the hint. What is the mechanism used by FastBack that is helpful for my case? Thanks so much, Mehdi

TSM V6 Documentation

2009-04-30 Thread Sabar Martin Hasiholan Panggabean
Hi All, Where to get TSM V6 Documentation. I've done with installation and did minimal configuration wizard but don't know where to access the ISC. Previous version the link was https://servername:8421/ibm/console. How about now ? BR, Martin Backup Solution Consultant @MII

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Francisco Molero
Fastback uses incremental for ever disk block backup and saves all info in a disk repository and you can integrate FastBack with TSM. From point of view of fastback is the same if you directory have one or one million files becasue the backup is a disk block level. When you have to restore you

Re: TSM V6 Documentation

2009-04-30 Thread Francisco Molero
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tsminfo/v6/index.jsp https://Admin_center_ip:9043/ibm/console/ - Mensaje original De: Sabar Martin Hasiholan Panggabean sabar.hasiho...@metrodata.co.id Para: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Enviado: jueves, 30 de abril, 2009 10:26:06 Asunto: TSM V6

SV: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Christian Svensson
Hi Mehdi, FastBack don't scan each file that TSM does. FastBack do Incremental backups based on Block-Level and in that case FastBack don't care if it is million of small files or 1 large file. It will only backup the blocks that is change and always backup the entire partition. FastBack is a

Re: TSM V6 Documentation

2009-04-30 Thread Sabar Martin Hasiholan Panggabean
Thanks .. BR, Martin -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Francisco Molero Sent: 30 April 2009 15:39 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM V6 Documentation http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tsminfo/v6/index.jsp

Re: TDP for Exchange VSS backup destination issue

2009-04-30 Thread Del Hoobler
Hi Steve, I can't 100% tell from the information below... ... but your conclusions look correct... i.e. when you do a backup to BOTH... it is almost like creating two backups... ... one stored locally and bound to your VSS_DISKONLY management class and another one stored on the TSM Server and

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Dwight Cook
It isn't the backup that will kill you, it is the restore... Trust me... if you have over 1.5 Million files in a mount point, expect weeks or months to perform a full restore. Remember, just because you can put 20 million files in a mount point doesn't mean it is a good idea... discourage that at

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Dwight, We tried our best to convince the application side to change the big mount point, but it is another story. It is a product, and probably one day they will be abliged to change it. What I need today is the best way to protect the volume and keep the service highly available. We do have

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Steven Harris
Mehdi I do not think you understand. If you are running a journal service you do not need to use incrbydate. To do what you are trying to do you need two separate backups. The first is a periodic image backup, maybe once per week or once every two weeks. The second is a normal incremental

Backup set protection

2009-04-30 Thread Sachin V Chaudhari1
Guyes, Any idea about how to protect/encrypt the backup set ? Requirement :- Need some kind of protection/authentication at the time of restoring backup set data, so that even if backup set media lost, no one can restore that data. Currently using LTO2 drives. Appreciate your inputs.. Thanks,

Re: Backup set protection

2009-04-30 Thread Dwight Cook
Simply activate client encryption. The data will be encrypted at the client before it is sent to the server; from that point forward, it will be encrypted no matter where it resides in TSM server storage / media. If you generate a backup set on portable media readable to the client, the data will

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Hi, None the two methods that you mean in the user's guide are suitable for my case. Image+normal incremental that you emphasized in your post means getting full image backups for example every week. For the incremental part, one file-based full backup is needed which is a nightmare for 20

Re: Tape Drive SN issue

2009-04-30 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
Update: We turned on TapeAlertMSG - no new messages We have changed the GBics on the switches - No change We had IBM do a health check on the drives - Last abnormal error was months earlier on one drive. The other two were clean. We have updated the firmware to the same version as a drive not

Re: Tape Drive SN issue

2009-04-30 Thread Dwight Cook
You are aware that under AIX if any WWN in the path of a drive changes, then that constitutes an entirely new device as seen by AIX. If you replaced GBics, it possibly could have caused the tape drive to take on a new rmt as seen under AIX unless you performed a rmdev -dl rmt_ on the existing

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
You have a disk array copy of the data, is that located close or far? Have you considered a disk array snap shot also? If you perform a journaled file system backup and an image backup then you should be able to restore the image and then update the image with the file system restore. This

Re: Tape Drive SN issue

2009-04-30 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
The drives were verified in AIX after GBic change. Since there was not a port change there was no effect on AIX. The library is aware of all of the drives. I think I mentioned earlier that the AS/400s that share the library have reported no problems with these drives. Thanks for the

Re: Tape Drive SN issue

2009-04-30 Thread Jo Lay
Andy, Do you have TSM SAN Discovery turned on? If you do, you can perform q SAN and look for the drive serial number in the output of q san. If you have ran cfgmgr after you changed GBIC, TSM SAN Discovery function should be able to get the new path for these drives using serial number to match

Re: Tape Drive SN issue

2009-04-30 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
We had to turn off SAN discovery due to other issues. Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Jo Lay Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:39 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Tape Drive SN issue Andy, Do you

Re: Backup set protection

2009-04-30 Thread Sachin V Chaudhari1
HI Thx for your inputs. But if I enable client encryption for taking flat file backup, then how will I restore the backup set data. At the time of backup set restoration will it ask me to put the same passport which I used it for flatfile backup. As I know it will prompt us to enter the password

Re: Tape Drive SN issue

2009-04-30 Thread Jo Lay
Ok, you might want to resolve the SAN Discovery issue on your machine. This will save you time in the long run. BTW, what is the issue for SAN discovery? Regards, Jo Lay Tivoli Storage Products, IBM Software Group jo...@us.ibm.com

Re: TSM 6.1 - can I do a X server platform database restore?

2009-04-30 Thread Colin Dawson
Joerg (and all), I don't see a response from TSM development in this chain so I'm not sure if it had been responded to or not... If it had and I missed it - I apologize for any duplication or rehashing of previously covered information... With TSM V6.1, some of the challenges

Re: Backup set protection

2009-04-30 Thread Dwight Cook
I have not personally run with encrypted data and restoring from a backup set but knowing in all other situations if the data is encrypted and the encryption key isn't present it will prompt for it, I would imagine it would function the same way here. Validate through testing though... Dwight

Re: SV: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-04-30 Thread Pawlos Gizaw
Does anyone use TS7569G with TSM 5.4 running on AIX 5.2. This devices works fine on HPUX 11 v3 with TSM 5.5 by emulating ATL P300. But we are trying to test on AIX server the cfgmgr created all the devices files for the tape drives but not able to get the device file for media changer. We

Re: Tape Drive SN issue

2009-04-30 Thread Richard Rhodes
Here are some things to do . . . Check that the tape drive is logged into the switch port, and you see the wwn on the switch port. Check the tape drive that it sees the san - usually a light indicating a connection to the san by the cable port (3592's have this, not sure about 3590E's) Check that

Re: Tape Drive SN issue

2009-04-30 Thread Alex Paschal
Hi, Andy. Going back to simple, in addition to deleting the paths, did you also delete and redefine your drives? I'm just double-checking because I don't see it explicitly mentioned in the thread and it seems to me that the only place TSM knows about the S/N is in the drive definition.

Re: Tape Drive SN issue

2009-04-30 Thread Ochs, Duane
You can issue a show library command from a TSM prompt. For detailed info that is not always represented in TSM. I've used this to see if tapes are stuck in older DLT drives. But it shows WWN and serial number. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu]

Re: Tape Drive SN issue

2009-04-30 Thread Dwight Cook
OH, are only 3590's having problems??? We did a switch upgrade and the short story is that the switches we migrated to would not function with 3590's / 3590's would not function with the switch... I can't remember all the specifics currently. The switch upgrade was more critical than the 3590

Re: SV: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-04-30 Thread David E Ehresman
What tape drive are you emulating? Do you have a current version of the atape driver on your AIX server? TSM server on AIX uses the atape driver rather than the TSM drivers. David Ehresman Pawlos Gizaw pawlos.gi...@sanofi-aventis.com 4/30/2009 12:39 PM Does anyone use TS7569G with TSM 5.4

Re: SV: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-04-30 Thread Hart, Charles A
It will depend on the Protectier version installed on the Gateway appliance, v2.1 = uses a TSM Smitty Sudo Device for the Changer and LTO ATAPE friendly devices for the drives. (so you still have to use smitty to scan for the changer device down the FCS adapter) v2.2.1 supports a Atape

backup performance on intel server

2009-04-30 Thread Stef Coene
Hi, I have a non-TSM related question, but I think it is the same for all backup software. We need to backup 28 TB for a cutsomer with daily changes of appr 8 TB. If you take a backup window of 8 hr, this is 1 TB/hour. This is also 280 MB/s so 3,5 LTO4 tape streamers (if you take 80MB/s per

Re: Tape Drive SN issue

2009-04-30 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
With SAN discovery on our Clariion disks become inaccessible at a random time. Since we turned on SAN discovery to fix the tape drive thing and it did not, we turned it back off. Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of

Re: Tape Drive SN issue

2009-04-30 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
IBM had me delete and recreate the drives in TSM. When we recreated the paths TSM was unable to contact the drive. AIX did not report an error. Since I am down to trying things that won't work I reset the port and the define path worked. I will know the results in the morning. Also,

Re: backup performance on intel server

2009-04-30 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
1 Gb Ethernet is about 100Mb/sec LTO4 is about 120Mb/sec + compression A good SCSI or FC drive is good for about 100Mb/sec Assuming you can stream 3 threads across the Ethernet, you will not be able to keep the 3 LTO4 drives busy because of the network. The faster tape drives were not intended

Re: Tape Drive SN issue

2009-04-30 Thread Jo Lay
I am not aware of this problem. Are you putting disk and tape under the same HBA? Regards, Jo Lay Tivoli Storage Products, IBM Software Group jo...@us.ibm.com

Re: Tape Drive SN issue

2009-04-30 Thread Clark, Robert A
If you use tapeutil to do an inquiry on a tape drive, the serial number should be recognizable in the output. You can compare this with the results from a lscfg -vl rmt1 or lsattr -El rmt1. I've seen the ODM reporting serial numbers that don't match what the tape drive reports. IIRC the 3590s

Re: backup performance on intel server

2009-04-30 Thread Stef Coene
On Thursday 30 April 2009, Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT wrote: 1 Gb Ethernet is about 100Mb/sec Maybe nick picking, but for me: 100Mb = 100 Mbit, 100MB is 100 MByte. LTO4 is about 120Mb/sec + compression Mhh, I was counting 80 MB/s up to 160 MB/s with compression ratio 2:1. A good SCSI or FC

Re: SV: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-04-30 Thread Pawlos Gizaw
I was trying to emulating LTO2. The atape driver was little old it is Atape.driver 8.4.8.0 works fine with 3584 and lot of lto2 tape drives on this AIX server. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of David E Ehresman Sent: Thursday,

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Gee, Norman
What options are there when journaling runs out of memory on a 32 bit Windows server? I have about 10 million files on one server that the journal engine runs out of memory. With memory efficient disk cache method and resource utilization 5, its runs out of memory, resource utilization of 4 runs

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Steven Harris
Hi Norman Your post worries me, as I'm just implementing an email archive solution that will depend on windows journalling to back up some huge repositories. The particular product fills up containers that once filled never change, so the change rate will be low there, but there are also index

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Allan Mills
Steve Had this problem last week and found this Microsoft Technet article. Fixed the problem after a reboot http://support.microsoft.com/kb/30401 Regards, Allan Allan Mills Technology Operations 02 8835 8035 0422 208 031 Steven Harris sjhar...@au1.ibm.com Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager

ANS1996W The volume mount points enumeration on D:/ volume f

2009-04-30 Thread sorslu
Hi David, I have seen this error during vcb backup. I solved my problem with Microsoft KB934336 hot fix. Regards, Suat ORSLU -- David McClelland wrote: Hi Team, Has anyone seen this one before? From dsmerror.log. 04/29/2009 11:43:20

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Allan Mills
Sorry cannot type today http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304101 Regards, Allan Allan Mills Technology Operations 02 8835 8035 0422 208 031 - Forwarded by Allan Mills/1115388/Staff/NSWPolice on 01/05/2009 11:35 - Allan Mills/1115388/Staff/NSWPolice 01/05/2009 10:03 To ADSM: Dist Stor