Re: Huge differences in file count after exporting node to a different server

[Richard Cowen]

If you saved or still have the actlog from the time of the export check for 
messages like:

ANR0635I EXPORT NODE: Processing node RCOWEN in domain STANDARD.
ANR0627I EXPORT NODE: Copied 2 file space 0 archive files, 23420 backup files, 
and 0 space managed files.
ANR0629I EXPORT NODE: Copied 299457501 bytes of data.

And similar IMPORT messages.

Richard
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Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 4:05 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Huge differences in file count after exporting node to a 
different server

There is a small difference but not enough to make that big of a difference in 
file/object-count but not in occupancy.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Sasa Drnjevic 
wrote:

> > Any thoughts?
>
> Directories vs files?
>
> Are you sure the mgmt classes are 100% same?
>
>
> Regards.
>
> --
> Sasa Drnjevic
> www.srce.unizg.hr
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2017-10-25 21:35, Zoltan Forray wrote:
> > I am curious if anyone has seen anything like this.
> >
> > A node was exported (filedata=all) from one server to another (all
> servers
> > are 7.1.7.300 RHEL)
> >
> > After successful completion (took a week due to 6TB+ to process) and 
> > copypool backups on the new server, the Total Occupancy counts are 
> > the
> same
> > (13.52TB).  However, the file counts are waaay off 
> > (original=17,561,816
> vs
> > copy=12,471,862)
> >
> > There haven't been any backups performed to either the original 
> > (since
> the
> > export) or new node. Policies are the same on both servers and even 
> > if
> they
> > weren't, that wouldn't explain the same occupancy size/total.
> >
> > Neither server runs dedup (DISK based storage volumes).
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > --
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Re: Huge differences in file count after exporting node to a different server

[Zoltan Forray]

Those numbers are as of this morning.  There has been no activity on this
node since the export started until about an hour ago (just found out the
original contact/maintainer of the server has left the university and
someone else has taken over).

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Harris, Steven <
steven.har...@btfinancialgroup.com> wrote:

> Hi Zoltan
>
> Are the  old server numbers from export time or current time?  If current
> time you may have had some 5 million small files expire in the interim.
>
> Cheers
>
> Steve
>
> Steven Harris
> TSM Admin/Consultant
> Canberra, Australia
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Zoltan Forray
> Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017 6:35 AM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: [ADSM-L] Huge differences in file count after exporting node to a
> different server
>
> I am curious if anyone has seen anything like this.
>
> A node was exported (filedata=all) from one server to another (all servers
> are 7.1.7.300 RHEL)
>
> After successful completion (took a week due to 6TB+ to process) and
> copypool backups on the new server, the Total Occupancy counts are the same
> (13.52TB).  However, the file counts are waaay off (original=17,561,816 vs
> copy=12,471,862)
>
> There haven't been any backups performed to either the original (since the
> export) or new node. Policies are the same on both servers and even if they
> weren't, that wouldn't explain the same occupancy size/total.
>
> Neither server runs dedup (DISK based storage volumes).
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> --
> *Zoltan Forray*
> Spectrum Protect (p.k.a. TSM) Software & Hardware Administrator
> Xymon Monitor Administrator
> VMware Administrator
> Virginia Commonwealth University
> UCC/Office of Technology Services
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> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
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Re: Huge differences in file count after exporting node to a different server

[Zoltan Forray]

There is a small difference but not enough to make that big of a difference
in file/object-count but not in occupancy.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Sasa Drnjevic 
wrote:

> > Any thoughts?
>
> Directories vs files?
>
> Are you sure the mgmt classes are 100% same?
>
>
> Regards.
>
> --
> Sasa Drnjevic
> www.srce.unizg.hr
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2017-10-25 21:35, Zoltan Forray wrote:
> > I am curious if anyone has seen anything like this.
> >
> > A node was exported (filedata=all) from one server to another (all
> servers
> > are 7.1.7.300 RHEL)
> >
> > After successful completion (took a week due to 6TB+ to process) and
> > copypool backups on the new server, the Total Occupancy counts are the
> same
> > (13.52TB).  However, the file counts are waaay off (original=17,561,816
> vs
> > copy=12,471,862)
> >
> > There haven't been any backups performed to either the original (since
> the
> > export) or new node. Policies are the same on both servers and even if
> they
> > weren't, that wouldn't explain the same occupancy size/total.
> >
> > Neither server runs dedup (DISK based storage volumes).
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > --
> > *Zoltan Forray*
> > Spectrum Protect (p.k.a. TSM) Software & Hardware Administrator
> > Xymon Monitor Administrator
> > VMware Administrator
> > Virginia Commonwealth University
> > UCC/Office of Technology Services
> > www.ucc.vcu.edu
> > zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
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Re: Huge differences in file count after exporting node to a different server

[Harris, Steven]

Hi Zoltan

Are the  old server numbers from export time or current time?  If current time 
you may have had some 5 million small files expire in the interim.

Cheers

Steve

Steven Harris
TSM Admin/Consultant 
Canberra, Australia

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Zoltan 
Forray
Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017 6:35 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Huge differences in file count after exporting node to a 
different server

I am curious if anyone has seen anything like this.

A node was exported (filedata=all) from one server to another (all servers
are 7.1.7.300 RHEL)

After successful completion (took a week due to 6TB+ to process) and
copypool backups on the new server, the Total Occupancy counts are the same
(13.52TB).  However, the file counts are waaay off (original=17,561,816 vs
copy=12,471,862)

There haven't been any backups performed to either the original (since the
export) or new node. Policies are the same on both servers and even if they
weren't, that wouldn't explain the same occupancy size/total.

Neither server runs dedup (DISK based storage volumes).

Any thoughts?

--
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Spectrum Protect (p.k.a. TSM) Software & Hardware Administrator
Xymon Monitor Administrator
VMware Administrator
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Re: Huge differences in file count after exporting node to a different server

[Sasa Drnjevic]

> Any thoughts?

Directories vs files?

Are you sure the mgmt classes are 100% same?


Regards.

--
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www.srce.unizg.hr





On 2017-10-25 21:35, Zoltan Forray wrote:
> I am curious if anyone has seen anything like this.
>
> A node was exported (filedata=all) from one server to another (all servers
> are 7.1.7.300 RHEL)
>
> After successful completion (took a week due to 6TB+ to process) and
> copypool backups on the new server, the Total Occupancy counts are the same
> (13.52TB).  However, the file counts are waaay off (original=17,561,816 vs
> copy=12,471,862)
>
> There haven't been any backups performed to either the original (since the
> export) or new node. Policies are the same on both servers and even if they
> weren't, that wouldn't explain the same occupancy size/total.
>
> Neither server runs dedup (DISK based storage volumes).
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> --
> *Zoltan Forray*
> Spectrum Protect (p.k.a. TSM) Software & Hardware Administrator
> Xymon Monitor Administrator
> VMware Administrator
> Virginia Commonwealth University
> UCC/Office of Technology Services
> www.ucc.vcu.edu
> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
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Huge differences in file count after exporting node to a different server

[Zoltan Forray]

I am curious if anyone has seen anything like this.

A node was exported (filedata=all) from one server to another (all servers
are 7.1.7.300 RHEL)

After successful completion (took a week due to 6TB+ to process) and
copypool backups on the new server, the Total Occupancy counts are the same
(13.52TB).  However, the file counts are waaay off (original=17,561,816 vs
copy=12,471,862)

There haven't been any backups performed to either the original (since the
export) or new node. Policies are the same on both servers and even if they
weren't, that wouldn't explain the same occupancy size/total.

Neither server runs dedup (DISK based storage volumes).

Any thoughts?

--
*Zoltan Forray*
Spectrum Protect (p.k.a. TSM) Software & Hardware Administrator
Xymon Monitor Administrator
VMware Administrator
Virginia Commonwealth University
UCC/Office of Technology Services
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Re: DP for MySAP Maintenance releases

[Zoltan Forray]

Sorry for the confusion. IBM has been putting up a lot of walls lately
(e.g. my tape drive firmware was on FTP) so you have to pay/go through
Passport.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM <
eric-van.l...@klm.com> wrote:

> Hi Zoltan!
> Patches yes, but maintenance releases seem to be gone...
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> Air France/KLM Storage Engineering
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Zoltan Forray
> Sent: dinsdag 24 oktober 2017 19:08
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: DP for MySAP Maintenance releases
>
> I just went to:
> ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com//storage/tivoli-storage-
> management/patches/tivoli-data-protection/r3
>  and there are 7-sub-directories labeleled v6211, v6301.to v7131.
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 9:21 AM, Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM <
> eric-van.l...@klm.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> > Does anybody know what happened to the ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/
> > storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/tivoli-data-protection/r
> > 3 directory? It seems to be gone for quite a while, so no Data
> > Protection for MySAP maintenance releases are available for download
> > anymore?
> > Kind regards,
> > Eric van Loon
> > Air France/KLM Storage Engineering
> > 
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Re: Directory-Container Pool

[Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM]

Hi Murat!
Just wait a few hours. There is some lag before the data is removed from the 
containers.
Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
Air France/KLM Storage Engineering


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Murat 
ÖRDEKBAY
Sent: woensdag 25 oktober 2017 17:25
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Directory-Container Pool

Hi colleagues,

I have Spectrum Protect server 8.1.2.  I have a backup on directory-container 
storage pool.
Then I deleted filespace where disk backup is located.  But it still takes up 
space on the directory-xontainer atorage pool. Reusedelay=0 What should i do to 
delete from containers or data in directory storage pool...

Thank you in advance for your answers.

Murat

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Directory-Container Pool

[Murat ÖRDEKBAY]

Hi colleagues,

I have Spectrum Protect server 8.1.2.  I have a backup on directory-container 
storage pool.
Then I deleted filespace where disk backup is located.  But it still takes up 
space on the directory-xontainer atorage pool. Reusedelay=0
What should i do to delete from containers or data in directory storage pool...

Thank you in advance for your answers.

Murat

Re: DP for MySAP Maintenance releases

[Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM]

Hi Zoltan!
Patches yes, but maintenance releases seem to be gone...
Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
Air France/KLM Storage Engineering

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Zoltan 
Forray
Sent: dinsdag 24 oktober 2017 19:08
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: DP for MySAP Maintenance releases

I just went to:
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com//storage/tivoli-storage-management/patches/tivoli-data-protection/r3
 and there are 7-sub-directories labeleled v6211, v6301.to v7131.

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 9:21 AM, Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM < 
eric-van.l...@klm.com> wrote:

> Hi guys,
> Does anybody know what happened to the ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/
> storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/tivoli-data-protection/r
> 3 directory? It seems to be gone for quite a while, so no Data 
> Protection for MySAP maintenance releases are available for download 
> anymore?
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> Air France/KLM Storage Engineering
> 
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