thing for all of your server accounts?
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stub file problem.
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from feeling misled.
Changing the name from HSM to something without so clear a set of
expectations might be the best way to address this.
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:21:59 -0700, Francisco Molero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
I don't agree with you I think it is a more or les a good product, I
only detect a problem Reconcile Files.
But you can backup and restore stub files from TSM client and you
can restore one stub and recall the
], and if
_they_ don't know then I'll claim it so someone else can get
aggravated and say I shouldn't do that: At that point I'll step aside
in favor of the aggravated person and chuckle.
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not sure where to start to figure out what
kind of a thing it _is_ as opposed to what it isn't.
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which happen twice.
cat files occ | sort | uniq -c | grep -v 2
In my case, it yielded the following list:
1 BACKUP1.SBAC.EDU-1-
1 BACKUP1.SBAC.EDU-2-
1 CISE-RESEARCH10-1-
1 CISE-RESEARCH30-1-
1 STEELERS.UAA.UFL.EDU-1-
Nice.
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0 S 212.6 K 1.0 T Node Linux86 CISE-RESEARCH53
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in fotching the config too badly for the temporary case.
In another month or so, this particular TSM server (which is growing
fast, natch... ) will have more like 550G landing pad, which would be
a better buffer.
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out the FILE vols; am I insane?
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got a big DISK pool which is pegged once a week and
empty most of the rest: It's inconvenient for me to redistribute that
space: if I could let the library manager do so in (say) 5G aliquots,
that would be superfine. :)
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sides. :)
[ improvement ]
Keen!
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- This is what Open Source is all about.
On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:50:21 -0400, Allen S. Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
In imitation of that, I'm considering a library of LIBT FILE, with
predefined FILE volumes on paths accessible to all of the client
instances. Then the library manager hands out individual volumes,
which
, then someone has adjusted the TCP
Window size, but there are buffers in the TSM server and TSM client
whose capacity needs to be large enough, too.
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else's complaint mail.
I find that this makes keeping up with it -their- problem, and the
daily mail simplifies eventual unhappy conversations about stuff not
being there when they reach for it.
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resulting in stgpools with wrong configuration.
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to make that call than it is for
e.g. network timeout.
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charitable I feel towards your
efforts after reading that last bit.
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slavishly worshipful
(*blush*) distinctly not under IBM's control.
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- Says stuff like Extant and Imprimatur... and he means it.
to overflowing with 1.3M
iterations of Can't get file [x] for reason [y].
But the scheduler log is nearly empty: Just the normal expiration
messages.
So, a riddle: What is it that fails a million files, but makes no
noise?
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on the
hosting TSM server.
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unedifying results: a couple of redbooks.
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Client upgrade appeared to do the job. Thanks, all.
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--- Forwarded Message
I'd say v.5.4.02 is doing a much better job... Thanks!
[...]
05/15/2007 19:58:44 Total number of objects inspected: 1,332,728
05/15/2007 19:58:44 Total number of objects backed up: 15,255
05
/NSAM/whitepapers/50ways.html
I encourage you to look over it: please be encouraged to throw
tomatoes or otherwise critique.
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.
very.
very
carefully delete the unwanted nodes from each target server.
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get 30MB/s backup for a single stream, and can usually restore it from
disk at the recieving boxes' disk-write bottleneck speed.
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and
performance. Don't the existing clients go by the licensing
standard that was in place when they were purchased?
HAH! hah hah HAH hah hee ho ho.
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- Once owned 10,000 client licenses, free and clear.
to find out This license scheme
is a burden? They coulda had it here for free.
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lay down level zeros faster than I could apply level ones, but
that's WAY old. :)
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Are you-all getting all of your ADSM-L messages spammed back to you
through a plesk.romtelecom.net helpdesk interface?
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partially rooted in the
requirements. These seem poorly aligned with the strengths of the
product.
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that your management acknowledges that AIX would have been
cheaper?
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.
Such a startup experience would tell me, first, that IBM doesn't
understand my platform all that well. This conclusion would make me
shiver. Dollar bills aren't a particularly good blanket, even if I
could keep them. :)
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- Though I suppose they could purchase a dandy comforter. Goose
inserts my eggs, all unawares.
This is irrational to some extent, I recognize. But for the VTL, I
don't know where the database is; it's _magic_.
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got a database and the license cost is going to double
when they add 8 more processors...
No change in TSM value proposition, just accounting overhead and more
license fees.
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that. That
doesn't seem quite right, methinks.
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is that you
can access a market which is incompetent to challenge you, and each
flaw in product version N can be a sales opportunity for N.1. Witness
Windows.
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tapes in the time allowed. That amounted to
some serious money, more than our VTL costs.
I'm interested in the details on this. The VTL is disk-only, or is it
tape backed? I'm confused about how you need fewer tape-head-hours
when you virtualize processes.
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what everyone's getting at when they talk about FILE
devclasses.
So if you bought 23 TB of slow disk plus a pretend-im-tape-box, then
the tape box was a waste, if you're using TSM. If you're using
something without TSM's volume primitives, it could be extremely
important.
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. This might be a really advantageous change, in
dollars and cents.
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:41:17 -0500, Bob Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
IBM.. please listen to your customers, we have been giving you plenty of
warning. You can save yourself and us money and time, if you change your
ways.
...
Not to toot my own horn (but deliberately tooting Bob's), but
don't think there's an option analogous to COMMTIMEOUT for the
client side, am I missing something? I'm gearing up to open a ticket,
but I figured I'd send up a flare Just In Case.
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It's been politely pointed out to me that grousing at folks who take
time off to come to Oxford isn't likely to make them feel happy about
coming to Oxford. Good point.
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. It adds insult to inconvenience.
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automated way to get this information.
Wow, epiphany. -THAT- is why they're doing this. We've got job
security, me hearties: it's now part of our duties to visually inspect
every CPU. We should thank them: nobody will want our jobs now.
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infuriated me: Talk about
trolling for PR quotes.
A company that's trying to really listen includes positive to negative
ranges and asks for more details on a question by question basis, if
desired. WOW was I steamed by the end of it.
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- Really doesn't spend as much time frothing
volume for reclamation. The internal changes are targeted to be
in the 5.3.6 and 5.4.1 TSM server levels.
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.
If this were an IBM-supplied, IBM-approved analysis tool, then it
would at least not be 4000 admins cobbling together 4000 different
ways to extract the information and inflicting them on an unawares
population.
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is to shut down your server, or to,
say, contact your business partner: Time to buy more!
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:31:33 -0400, Bill Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Did I mention that TLCM requires DB2 and WAS, which come bundled in case
you're not using them already.
Is it as easy to run as the TSM admin server? (*koff*)
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it 'client-facing' ) server knows its' copy
stgpools as SERVER volumes; the copy server can move its' data from
one tape tech to another completely independantly. Virtual volumes
are also the answer for staging copy data to disk, with a write to
tape at a later point.
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under heavy random access contention than will
e.g. FC disk.
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drive one of my
3592s at 80-90 MB/s. When I put three of them on the job, aggregate
throughput drops to ~30 MB/s (yes, each drive getting ~10MB/s).
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trying.
Anybody seen something like this?
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for a volume, then skip it, in
that case I prefer the 'skipped work' failure mode to the 'stalled
process' failure mode
I've had as many as 4 tape drives idle, (2 processes, one reader one
writer each) waiting for an in-use volume, and sometimes it's been
hours before I noticed them.
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version of the file to
inactive status, so it'll disappear from your backups.
My opinion is Avoid, avoid, avoid.
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filesystem that uses something a real HSM, or better yet just buy some
multi-TB nas-in-a-box.
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, which means you
could have quite a few identical versions in the pipelines. These
will age out in time, so they don't constitute the permanent load that
the archive bits do.
Because of this, the storage associated with a single file can just
grow without bounds.
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(or perhaps SHOWs) anyone's ever come up with to
get that additional detail out of the server?
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:19:59 -0400, Colwell, William F. [EMAIL
PROTECTED] said:
use the query nodedata command which was added in 5.3(?) as part of
the collocation group feature. for example -
*blush*. Uh, yeah. Exactly that.
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partner on just this topic this
afternoon.
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in its'
node entry.
The session quoted in the connection refusal message seems ludicrously
low. I'm not sure where that came from.
Apparently the box has been doing this for months. :) Anybody have a
clue what's happening in there?
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:01:04 +0200, Bos, Karel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Why don't you simple restore your DB this new server?
You can't restore DB backups across architectures. :)
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on measley 200G volumes... Worst,
you're using the less reliable, older devices to manage your family
jewels.
For me, the ability to make copies of the DB backups swamped every
other reliability-related concern.
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-another
instance, it's straightforward.
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on restore.
Opinions? Any client developer want to chime in with some clue? :)
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response. We know how they got there: this is
a computer-science research group's filesystem, and they're writing
stuf shall I say, unusually ? :)
But while the discussion goes on about how one ought to write files,
it'd be nice to be able to tell TSM Carry on.
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the new products have yet to blood themselves. Be careful it
doesn't splash on you when they do. :)
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.
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:49:01 +0200, Henrik Wahlstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
I couldn't resist to make some minor comments.
First one is Linux, not AIX.
Ask Zoltan about that. :)
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. but I run fulls
and incrs, 5 incrs between fulls.
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tostg=disk-place
maxproc=number-of-drives.
that could take some time off your restore, if you've got enough disk,
and enough drives to counteract the fact that you can't start the
restore until the move completes.
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all that to be able to do direct tape to tape
transfer ?
here's the catalog of ways to move data I came up with some time back.
http://open-systems.ufl.edu/services/NSAM/whitepapers/50ways.html
Feel free to pick holes in it. :)
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S. Rout
plan to expand...
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is the performance hit?
4G ports on a director are expensive, so if it is reasonable to save
them, I'm going to try.
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.
So was this entirely a hallucination?
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of daylight savings or
some such'.
I found myself going down a numerological rabbit-hole looking for
plausible time-related errors which add up to 10 hours...
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it goes.
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don't really
acknowledge each others' existance.
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negative work. If they weren't, the suicide rate in Redmond
would be far worse.
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to avoid that tape swapping issue. It sounds too easy to do.
Oh, I want it, but I don't think it's easy. Not so long as they want
to keep the code bases for FILE devclasses essentially similar to the
other serial media.
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justify spending an additional $20-30K on drives...
MMmm. Maybe I should have a _smaller_ disk stgpool migrating into the
FILE devclass, Eeek. Double the I/Os in a night? I like to
over-engineer, but that's a little much even for me.
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recieve transactions. (not recieve
-bandwidth-, note. transactions.)
So, if I had your filestore sizes, I'd probably be restoring one of
them in 5-6 hours. I anticipate there are procedural or equipment
wins somewhere in your scenario. Where do you think your bottleneck
is?
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, sane, and consentual, folks. We're all happier
that way in the long run.
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- Adult TSM conversations. Giggle.
, is discouraged.
This might prompt (some) people to keep PST files of data they feel is
subject to retention rules.
Don't worry, you'll get strong support from management in your efforts
to assure the recoverability of these data in the event of an
emergency.
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you expect a filesystem backup of a MSSQL
data store to be usable? What about an Exchange store?
This is a liability of the strategy M$ has decided to use for their
applications.
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foretold absolutely did not happen. So
I'll sit the heck back down on this topic and mutter to myself. :)
Thanks for your efforts to keep the message stream clean. Looks like
it's working.
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just be because I'm being ignored. ;)
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data stgpools will ever be PRIMARY stgpools;
not without profound shifts elsewhere. If we get to the point where
we're keeping track of individual files instead of aggregates, that'd
be possible. But it'd be a freakin' HUGE database increase, first.
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data) will cause confusion in all the copies and migrations
which have already happened, and will generate new aggregates which
must then be maintained.
And if I've hashed this up yet again, I'll just sit the *bleep* down
and try to get a developer to talk about it.
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.
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-? ? ? ? ?? cyrus.cache
-rw--- 1 cyrus mail 186 Aug 2 10:40 cyrus.header
-? ? ? ? ?? cyrus.index
is a problem. :)
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spot w.r.t. streaming, perhaps
shoeshining?
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run some automated process at the DR site which evaluates the DB
Volume status and re-run the format when it no longer matches. Then
when the balloon goes up, you've already got a formatted volume.
EricEricEricEricEricEricEricEricEricEricEricEricEricEricEricEricEricEric
:)
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, will
the lawyers be happy, finally?
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This E-Mail is intended for EVERYONE IN THE WORLD. For what it's
worth.
. This
is making me wince at the thought of turning 3592 volumes into
single-use disposables.
So how do you-all do it, and how did you decide?
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probably pick out email-looking stuff. Is this part of our policy
response to discovery? Probably not.
But when someone says to me This data must not be recoverable, even
through extraordinary measures, I shudder, and prepare to repel
boarding by the NSA.
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- Why bother, they already
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