Re: [E] Re: [ADSM-L] TSM alternatives

[Del Hoobler]

Yes, the API is still supported since Spectrum Protect for Databases - 
Data Protection for Oracle is supported with version 8.1. I believe the 
installation only installs the API parts.


Del




"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 04/28/2021 
03:48:51 AM:

> From: Saravanan Palanisamy 
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Date: 04/28/2021 03:49 AM
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [E] Re: [ADSM-L] TSM alternatives
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> 
> Hi Del 
> 
> I could see oracle SPARC support API v8.1 but BA client not released
> for v8.1. What is the purpose of releasing API support for v8.1 
> without BA client ?
> 
> Means no BA client backup supported but still support TDP for oracle
> ? TDP also require BA client to install. 
> 
> Please advise if you have any background. 
> 
> 
> Regards 
> Sarav 
> +65 9857 8665
> 
> 
> > On 26 Apr 2021, at 7:03 PM, Del Hoobler  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Michael,
> > 
> > You are correct. At the end of this year, the Backup/Archive client 
for 
> > Solaris SPARC will not be supported. As you mention, you can buy 
extended 
> > support, but it will only be for "Usage or Known Defect" issues, not 
for 
> > new currency updates or defects.
> > 
> > I made the previous comment because I wanted other people reading this 
to 
> > make sure they understood it was only Solaris SPARC that this applied 
to, 
> > not Solaris x86_64.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > 
> > Del
> > 
> > ----
> > 
> > 
> > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 04/26/2021 
> > 06:25:34 AM:
> > 
> >> From: "Stahlberg, Michael" 
> >> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> >> Date: 04/26/2021 06:26 AM
> >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [E] Re: [ADSM-L] TSM alternatives
> >> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> >> 
> >> Hi Del,
> >> 
> >> We use Solaris Sparc, and it was clear for me that this is fully 
> > supported
> >> until the end of this year, but what happens if a newer OS release 
will
> >> come next year and the client will not work anymore, please.
> >> 
> >> I got the information from the support team that we can buy extended
> >> support, but this means more in case of a failure they will try to 
help,
> >> but there will be no development on this client anymore
> >> 
> >> It might be wrong, but with this statement, I cannot backup 
production 
> > data
> >> anymore.
> >> 
> >> thanks
> >> 
> >> regards
> >> 
> >>  >> u=http-3A__www.verizon.com=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-
> >> 
> > 
> 
siA1ZOg=0hq2JX5c3TEZNriHEs7Zf7HrkY2fNtONOrEOM8Txvk8=xbwRG2jwrVEOfJbwF7XUE6ogWFzsumbFCZ0SPJpEH-
> >> Y=FuEfe5SeT2yOWzFApUbjJivuOqOY9QCLmW-e8ZqJV2g= >
> >> 
> >> *Michael Stahlberg*
> >> Engineer IV Consultant - Network Eng & Ops
> >> Server & Services Management International -* Global Operations | 
> > Verizon*
> >> Wireline Network
> >> Tel: +49 231 972 0 | Cell: +49 231 972 0
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> Am Fr., 23. Apr. 2021 um 17:23 Uhr schrieb Del Hoobler 
> >> :
> >> 
> >>> Thanks Michael.
> >>> 
> >>> Just to be sure it's clear to all.
> >>> 
> >>> IBM Spectrum Protect still supports Solaris for x86_64. It's the 
> > Solaris
> >>> SPARC platform that is API only support:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> INVALID URI REMOVED
> >> 
> > 
> 
u=https-3A__www.ibm.com_support_pages_node_84861-23Solaris-2520x86-5F64=DwIFAw=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ=-0-
> >> r_o4RMF4NYke7vSCYCBjM7xJlyEdabThqplN58jk=YtQc_i2zHXvNtA0l-
> >> 
> > 
FkYOG8VOWKBcrHneIIlI92WUq0=qAQ_ww-bqRak-N9RxpC9z9bBpXBz00LoQNil0T465iE=
> >>> 
> >>> Some other notes:
> >>> - You can still use the Spectrum Protect V7 Solaris SPARC B/A client 

> > until
> >>> the end of this year with full support... and longer with extended
> >>> support.
> >>> - You can also mount the Solaris SPARC filesystems and back it up 
from 
> > a
> >>> proxy server.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Del
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 04/23/2021
> >>>

Re: [E] Re: [ADSM-L] TSM alternatives

[Saravanan Palanisamy]

Hi Del 

I could see oracle SPARC support API v8.1 but BA client not released for v8.1. 
What is the purpose of releasing API support for v8.1 without BA client ?

Means no BA client backup supported but still support TDP for oracle ? TDP also 
require BA client to install. 

Please advise if you have any background. 
 

Regards 
Sarav 
+65 9857 8665


> On 26 Apr 2021, at 7:03 PM, Del Hoobler  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> You are correct. At the end of this year, the Backup/Archive client for 
> Solaris SPARC will not be supported. As you mention, you can buy extended 
> support, but it will only be for "Usage or Known Defect" issues, not for 
> new currency updates or defects.
> 
> I made the previous comment because I wanted other people reading this to 
> make sure they understood it was only Solaris SPARC that this applied to, 
> not Solaris x86_64.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> Del
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 04/26/2021 
> 06:25:34 AM:
> 
>> From: "Stahlberg, Michael" 
>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Date: 04/26/2021 06:26 AM
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [E] Re: [ADSM-L] TSM alternatives
>> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
>> 
>> Hi Del,
>> 
>> We use Solaris Sparc, and it was clear for me that this is fully 
> supported
>> until the end of this year, but what happens if a newer OS release will
>> come next year and the client will not work anymore, please.
>> 
>> I got the information from the support team that we can buy extended
>> support, but this means more in case of a failure they will try to help,
>> but there will be no development on this client anymore
>> 
>> It might be wrong, but with this statement, I cannot backup production 
> data
>> anymore.
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> regards
>> 
>> > u=http-3A__www.verizon.com=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-
>> 
> siA1ZOg=0hq2JX5c3TEZNriHEs7Zf7HrkY2fNtONOrEOM8Txvk8=xbwRG2jwrVEOfJbwF7XUE6ogWFzsumbFCZ0SPJpEH-
>> Y=FuEfe5SeT2yOWzFApUbjJivuOqOY9QCLmW-e8ZqJV2g= >
>> 
>> *Michael Stahlberg*
>> Engineer IV Consultant - Network Eng & Ops
>> Server & Services Management International -* Global Operations | 
> Verizon*
>> Wireline Network
>> Tel: +49 231 972 0 | Cell: +49 231 972 0
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am Fr., 23. Apr. 2021 um 17:23 Uhr schrieb Del Hoobler 
>> :
>> 
>>> Thanks Michael.
>>> 
>>> Just to be sure it's clear to all.
>>> 
>>> IBM Spectrum Protect still supports Solaris for x86_64. It's the 
> Solaris
>>> SPARC platform that is API only support:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> INVALID URI REMOVED
>> 
> u=https-3A__www.ibm.com_support_pages_node_84861-23Solaris-2520x86-5F64=DwIFAw=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ=-0-
>> r_o4RMF4NYke7vSCYCBjM7xJlyEdabThqplN58jk=YtQc_i2zHXvNtA0l-
>> 
> FkYOG8VOWKBcrHneIIlI92WUq0=qAQ_ww-bqRak-N9RxpC9z9bBpXBz00LoQNil0T465iE=
>>> 
>>> Some other notes:
>>> - You can still use the Spectrum Protect V7 Solaris SPARC B/A client 
> until
>>> the end of this year with full support... and longer with extended
>>> support.
>>> - You can also mount the Solaris SPARC filesystems and back it up from 
> a
>>> proxy server.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Del
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 04/23/2021
>>> 09:32:19 AM:
>>> 
>>>> From: "Stahlberg, Michael" 
>>>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>>>> Date: 04/23/2021 09:33 AM
>>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] TSM alternatives
>>>> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
>>>> 
>>>> HI all,
>>>> 
>>>> unfortunately IBM decided to stop the support for Solaris Clients. 
> This
>>> is
>>>> a pain for us and we have decided to move to a different product. 
> I'm
>>>> checking for alternatives and would like to know if somebody has the
>>> same
>>>> issue and/or has already decided to move to a different product. I'm 
> not
>>>> happy about this, but our main clients are all Solaris Clients
>>> still..
>>>> 
>>>> regards
>>>> 
>>>> >>> u=http-3A__www.verizon.com=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> siA1ZOg=0hq2JX5c3TEZNriHEs7Zf7HrkY2fNtONOrEOM8Txvk8=6A_Oax46rHV7OFpRD535E9xEkLeChb5REQjB-
>>>> ceSTLc=HAwiCutcUMO04kWTHODK3NR79sbupV9T8nQJfPSIaZE= >
>>>> 
>>>> *Michael Stahlberg*
>>>> Engineer IV Consultant - Network Eng & Ops
>>>> Server & Services Management International -* Global Operations |
>>> Verizon*
>>>> Wireline Network
>>>> Tel: +49 231 972 0 | Cell: +49 231 972 0
>>>> 
>>>> 
> ==
>>>> 
>>>> Verizon Deutschland GmbH - Sebrathweg 20, 44149 Dortmund, Germany -
>>>> Amtsgericht Dortmund, HRB 14952 - Geschäftsführer: Detlef Eppig -
>>>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Francesco de Maio
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

Re: [E] Re: [ADSM-L] TSM alternatives

[Stahlberg, Michael]

Hi Del,

We use Solaris Sparc, and it was clear for me that this is fully supported
until the end of this year, but what happens if a newer OS release will
come next year and the client will not work anymore, please.

I got the information from the support team that we can buy extended
support, but this means more in case of a failure they will try to help,
but there will be no development on this client anymore

It might be wrong, but with this statement, I cannot backup production data
anymore.

thanks

regards



*Michael Stahlberg*
Engineer IV Consultant - Network Eng & Ops
Server & Services Management International -* Global Operations | Verizon*
Wireline Network
Tel: +49 231 972 0 | Cell: +49 231 972 0




Am Fr., 23. Apr. 2021 um 17:23 Uhr schrieb Del Hoobler :

> Thanks Michael.
>
> Just to be sure it's clear to all.
>
> IBM Spectrum Protect still supports Solaris for x86_64. It's the Solaris
> SPARC platform that is API only support:
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ibm.com_support_pages_node_84861-23Solaris-2520x86-5F64=DwIFAw=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ=-0-r_o4RMF4NYke7vSCYCBjM7xJlyEdabThqplN58jk=YtQc_i2zHXvNtA0l-FkYOG8VOWKBcrHneIIlI92WUq0=qAQ_ww-bqRak-N9RxpC9z9bBpXBz00LoQNil0T465iE=
>
> Some other notes:
> - You can still use the Spectrum Protect V7 Solaris SPARC B/A client until
> the end of this year with full support... and longer with extended
> support.
> - You can also mount the Solaris SPARC filesystems and back it up from a
> proxy server.
>
>
> Del
>
>
>
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 04/23/2021
> 09:32:19 AM:
>
> > From: "Stahlberg, Michael" 
> > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > Date: 04/23/2021 09:33 AM
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] TSM alternatives
> > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> >
> > HI all,
> >
> > unfortunately IBM decided to stop the support for Solaris Clients. This
> is
> > a pain for us and we have decided to move to a different product. I'm
> > checking for alternatives and would like to know if somebody has the
> same
> > issue and/or has already decided to move to a different product. I'm not
> > happy about this, but our main clients are all Solaris Clients
> still..
> >
> > regards
> >
> >  > u=http-3A__www.verizon.com=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-
> >
>
> siA1ZOg=0hq2JX5c3TEZNriHEs7Zf7HrkY2fNtONOrEOM8Txvk8=6A_Oax46rHV7OFpRD535E9xEkLeChb5REQjB-
> > ceSTLc=HAwiCutcUMO04kWTHODK3NR79sbupV9T8nQJfPSIaZE= >
> >
> > *Michael Stahlberg*
> > Engineer IV Consultant - Network Eng & Ops
> > Server & Services Management International -* Global Operations |
> Verizon*
> > Wireline Network
> > Tel: +49 231 972 0 | Cell: +49 231 972 0
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Verizon Deutschland GmbH - Sebrathweg 20, 44149 Dortmund, Germany -
> > Amtsgericht Dortmund, HRB 14952 - Geschäftsführer: Detlef Eppig -
> > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Francesco de Maio
> >
>

Re: [E] Re: [ADSM-L] TSM alternatives

[Del Hoobler]

Hi Michael,

You are correct. At the end of this year, the Backup/Archive client for 
Solaris SPARC will not be supported. As you mention, you can buy extended 
support, but it will only be for "Usage or Known Defect" issues, not for 
new currency updates or defects.

I made the previous comment because I wanted other people reading this to 
make sure they understood it was only Solaris SPARC that this applied to, 
not Solaris x86_64.

Thank you.


Del




"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 04/26/2021 
06:25:34 AM:

> From: "Stahlberg, Michael" 
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Date: 04/26/2021 06:26 AM
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [E] Re: [ADSM-L] TSM alternatives
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> 
> Hi Del,
> 
> We use Solaris Sparc, and it was clear for me that this is fully 
supported
> until the end of this year, but what happens if a newer OS release will
> come next year and the client will not work anymore, please.
> 
> I got the information from the support team that we can buy extended
> support, but this means more in case of a failure they will try to help,
> but there will be no development on this client anymore
> 
> It might be wrong, but with this statement, I cannot backup production 
data
> anymore.
> 
> thanks
> 
> regards
> 
>  u=http-3A__www.verizon.com=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-
> 
siA1ZOg=0hq2JX5c3TEZNriHEs7Zf7HrkY2fNtONOrEOM8Txvk8=xbwRG2jwrVEOfJbwF7XUE6ogWFzsumbFCZ0SPJpEH-
> Y=FuEfe5SeT2yOWzFApUbjJivuOqOY9QCLmW-e8ZqJV2g= >
> 
> *Michael Stahlberg*
> Engineer IV Consultant - Network Eng & Ops
> Server & Services Management International -* Global Operations | 
Verizon*
> Wireline Network
> Tel: +49 231 972 0 | Cell: +49 231 972 0
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am Fr., 23. Apr. 2021 um 17:23 Uhr schrieb Del Hoobler 
:
> 
> > Thanks Michael.
> >
> > Just to be sure it's clear to all.
> >
> > IBM Spectrum Protect still supports Solaris for x86_64. It's the 
Solaris
> > SPARC platform that is API only support:
> >
> >
> > INVALID URI REMOVED
> 
u=https-3A__www.ibm.com_support_pages_node_84861-23Solaris-2520x86-5F64=DwIFAw=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ=-0-
> r_o4RMF4NYke7vSCYCBjM7xJlyEdabThqplN58jk=YtQc_i2zHXvNtA0l-
> 
FkYOG8VOWKBcrHneIIlI92WUq0=qAQ_ww-bqRak-N9RxpC9z9bBpXBz00LoQNil0T465iE=
> >
> > Some other notes:
> > - You can still use the Spectrum Protect V7 Solaris SPARC B/A client 
until
> > the end of this year with full support... and longer with extended
> > support.
> > - You can also mount the Solaris SPARC filesystems and back it up from 
a
> > proxy server.
> >
> >
> > Del
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 04/23/2021
> > 09:32:19 AM:
> >
> > > From: "Stahlberg, Michael" 
> > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > > Date: 04/23/2021 09:33 AM
> > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] TSM alternatives
> > > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> > >
> > > HI all,
> > >
> > > unfortunately IBM decided to stop the support for Solaris Clients. 
This
> > is
> > > a pain for us and we have decided to move to a different product. 
I'm
> > > checking for alternatives and would like to know if somebody has the
> > same
> > > issue and/or has already decided to move to a different product. I'm 
not
> > > happy about this, but our main clients are all Solaris Clients
> > still..
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > >  > > u=http-3A__www.verizon.com=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-
> > >
> >
> > 
> 
siA1ZOg=0hq2JX5c3TEZNriHEs7Zf7HrkY2fNtONOrEOM8Txvk8=6A_Oax46rHV7OFpRD535E9xEkLeChb5REQjB-
> > > ceSTLc=HAwiCutcUMO04kWTHODK3NR79sbupV9T8nQJfPSIaZE= >
> > >
> > > *Michael Stahlberg*
> > > Engineer IV Consultant - Network Eng & Ops
> > > Server & Services Management International -* Global Operations |
> > Verizon*
> > > Wireline Network
> > > Tel: +49 231 972 0 | Cell: +49 231 972 0
> > >
> > > 
==
> > >
> > > Verizon Deutschland GmbH - Sebrathweg 20, 44149 Dortmund, Germany -
> > > Amtsgericht Dortmund, HRB 14952 - Geschäftsführer: Detlef Eppig -
> > > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Francesco de Maio
> > >
> >
>