Re: Offsite tape challenge

2002-11-20 Thread Ray Baughman
We take the tapes out of the library and set the access to Offsite and the
location to Vault.  Access of Offsite prevents TSM from trying to mount
the tape, and location is a free form text field, so we just call it Vault
as the tapes our stored onsite in a Vault.  Once a week we take tapes
offsite, and bring tapes back.  When tapes go offsite the location is
changed to Offsite.  We use Korn Shell scripts to handle all this, on AIX.
If you'd like more information on how we do all this, let me know offline.

Ray Baughman
Engineering Systems Administrator
TSM Administrator
National Machinery LLC
Phone 419-443-2257
Fax 419-443-2376
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 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Orin Rehorst
 Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:21 PM
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 Subject: Offsite tape challenge


 Worry...worry...worry...about disasters...terrorists...and recoveries. My
 bosses worry a lot, me likely not enough.

 Am storing copy pool offsite once a week. Box of tapes comes
 here, we update
 the copy pool, box goes back offsite.

 What about a daily? They don't want to bring the box back and forth every
 day...just place dailies in a building next door. But how might
 you manage
 that with TSM?



 Regards,
 Orin

 Orin Rehorst
 Port of Houston Authority
 (Largest U.S. port in foreign tonnage)
 e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Phone:  (713)670-2443
 Fax:  (713)670-2457
 TOPAS web site: www.homestead.com/topas/topas.html




Re: Offsite tape challenge

2002-11-20 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
BTW: you are having an exposure with this bring-back + back-offsite. While
the box is onsite you have no off-site copies and are vulnerable to
disaster.
TSM is made to handle off-site copies without any need to bring them
on-site before new copy is send out. Look again through your procedures.

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant






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Worry...worry...worry...about disasters...terrorists...and recoveries. My
bosses worry a lot, me likely not enough.

Am storing copy pool offsite once a week. Box of tapes comes here, we
update
the copy pool, box goes back offsite.

What about a daily? They don't want to bring the box back and forth every
day...just place dailies in a building next door. But how might you
manage
that with TSM?



Regards,
Orin

Orin Rehorst
Port of Houston Authority
(Largest U.S. port in foreign tonnage)
e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone:  (713)670-2443
Fax:  (713)670-2457
TOPAS web site: www.homestead.com/topas/topas.html



Re: Offsite tape challenge

2002-11-20 Thread Kauffman, Tom
I ship between 8 and 12 LTO tapes off-site every weekday morning. Once a
week we generate a pull list of all off-site tapes in pending or empty
status and have them (plust the oldest week's TSM database backups) brought
back. This runs to about 40 tapes coming back.

I do daily reclaims of some of the off-site tape pools; others are archive
pools with a 21 day retention. These I just let die the death and come back
after the 21 days.

My courier is part of our help-desk staff (a former mainframe computer
operator), so we don't need to do the 'sealed box' bit.

And our off-site storage is the company hanger at the local airport, about
11 miles away.

As of now, I show 95 tapes off-site; 19 are ready to come back (or serve as
initial scratch pool at D/R).

The process works. We've done a number of successful D/R tests and haven't
run into missing/unavailable files in the last three years.

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

 -Original Message-
 From: Orin Rehorst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:21 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Offsite tape challenge


 Worry...worry...worry...about disasters...terrorists...and
 recoveries. My
 bosses worry a lot, me likely not enough.

 Am storing copy pool offsite once a week. Box of tapes comes
 here, we update
 the copy pool, box goes back offsite.

 What about a daily? They don't want to bring the box back and
 forth every
 day...just place dailies in a building next door. But how
 might you manage
 that with TSM?



 Regards,
 Orin

 Orin Rehorst
 Port of Houston Authority
 (Largest U.S. port in foreign tonnage)
 e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Phone:  (713)670-2443
 Fax:  (713)670-2457
 TOPAS web site: www.homestead.com/topas/topas.html




Offsite tape challenge

2002-11-19 Thread Orin Rehorst
Worry...worry...worry...about disasters...terrorists...and recoveries. My
bosses worry a lot, me likely not enough.

Am storing copy pool offsite once a week. Box of tapes comes here, we update
the copy pool, box goes back offsite.

What about a daily? They don't want to bring the box back and forth every
day...just place dailies in a building next door. But how might you manage
that with TSM?



Regards,
Orin

Orin Rehorst
Port of Houston Authority
(Largest U.S. port in foreign tonnage)
e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone:  (713)670-2443
Fax:  (713)670-2457
TOPAS web site: www.homestead.com/topas/topas.html



Re: Offsite tape challenge

2002-11-19 Thread Pearson, Dave
We have about 25 Cartridges that goes offsite on a daily basis

David C. Pearson
IS Production Support Analyst
System  Network Service
Snohomish County PUD # 1
 ...OLE_Obj...
Phone: 425.347.4420
Pager:  425.290.0944
FAX: 425.267.6380
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From:   Orin Rehorst [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:21 PM
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Subject:Offsite tape challenge

Worry...worry...worry...about disasters...terrorists...and
recoveries. My
bosses worry a lot, me likely not enough.

Am storing copy pool offsite once a week. Box of tapes comes here,
we update
the copy pool, box goes back offsite.

What about a daily? They don't want to bring the box back and forth
every
day...just place dailies in a building next door. But how might
you manage
that with TSM?



Regards,
Orin

Orin Rehorst
Port of Houston Authority
(Largest U.S. port in foreign tonnage)
e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone:  (713)670-2443
Fax:  (713)670-2457
TOPAS web site: www.homestead.com/topas/topas.html



Re: Offsite tape challenge

2002-11-19 Thread Bill Boyer
You can use scripts and DRM, or there is a product Autovault from
http://www.coderelief.com that will manage all your copypool media.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.

On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 16:21, Orin Rehorst wrote:
 Worry...worry...worry...about disasters...terrorists...and recoveries. My
 bosses worry a lot, me likely not enough.

 Am storing copy pool offsite once a week. Box of tapes comes here, we update
 the copy pool, box goes back offsite.

 What about a daily? They don't want to bring the box back and forth every
 day...just place dailies in a building next door. But how might you manage
 that with TSM?



 Regards,
 Orin

 Orin Rehorst
 Port of Houston Authority
 (Largest U.S. port in foreign tonnage)
 e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Phone:  (713)670-2443
 Fax:  (713)670-2457
 TOPAS web site: www.homestead.com/topas/topas.html