Re: Physically shred tape after one use? [ email retention ]

2008-02-08 Thread Richard Rhodes
- Allen S. Rout wrote I've got some sentiment on the UF campus that anything which could be retrieved by a data-recovery house should be deemed not deleted. This is making me wince at the thought of turning 3592 volumes into single-use disposables. So how do you-all do it, and how did you

Re: Physically shred tape after one use? [ email retention ]

2008-02-08 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:49:11 -0500, Richard Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Are you talking about discoverable meaning the legal term discovery, or as in snoopable, meaning somebody gets access to your media because it falls off a truck or they walk out the door with it? The former. :P We

Re: Physically shred tape after one use? [ email retention ]

2008-02-08 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:11:47 -0500, Wanda Prather [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: For the onsite stuff, tell the people who want the stuff physically erased that they have to buy you enough SATA disk to store all their email backups, and set up a TSM file pool with Disk Shredding (that's what it's

Re: Physically shred tape after one use? [ email retention ]

2008-02-08 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:25:10 -0500, Richard Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Applicable state and federal laws largely determine the disposability of media, as previously explored in threads such as http://www.mail-archive.com/adsm-l@vm.marist.edu/msg74957.html If media is kept in a secured

Re: Physically shred tape after one use? [ email retention ]

2008-02-08 Thread Gee, Norman
Subject: Re: Physically shred tape after one use? [ email retention ] On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:49:11 -0500, Richard Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Are you talking about discoverable meaning the legal term discovery, or as in snoopable, meaning somebody gets access to your media because it falls off

Re: Physically shred tape after one use? [ email retention ]

2008-02-08 Thread Wanda Prather
Should either 1) solve the problem or 2) make them go away, which will 3) solve the problem! On 2/8/08, Allen S. Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:11:47 -0500, Wanda Prather [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: For the onsite stuff, tell the people who want the stuff physically

Re: Physically shred tape after one use? [ email retention ]

2008-02-08 Thread Wanda Prather
Ack. I feel your pain. (Those are the same people who will argue with you that AES256 encryption just isn't secure enough.) But the L word (litigation) trumps everything, as far as I've been able to determine. Isn't there an ERASE command that works on the 359x hardware? You can't access it via

Physically shred tape after one use? [ email retention ]

2008-02-07 Thread Allen S. Rout
When do you-all deem a file / message / whatever unrecoverable ? What legal standards do you bring to the process of deciding what's discoverable and what's not? I've got some sentiment on the UF campus that anything which could be retrieved by a data-recovery house should be deemed not deleted.

Re: Physically shred tape after one use? [ email retention ]

2008-02-07 Thread Richard Sims
Applicable state and federal laws largely determine the disposability of media, as previously explored in threads such as http://www.mail-archive.com/adsm-l@vm.marist.edu/msg74957.html If media is kept in a secured facility, then the issue is moot, as no unauthorized persons will gain access to

Re: Physically shred tape after one use? [ email retention ]

2008-02-07 Thread Wanda Prather
I think just about every one of my customers is using somewhat different criteria to decide, depending on - what particular circumstance they are concerned about, - what laws apply to their industry, if any - who is involved in the discussion (tecchies or lawyers or compliance