Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-16 Thread Richard Rhodes
So, I manage this with a script that reads a config file, with server, sta, libs and drive's characteristics and it outputs all the define, delete, update drive and update path commands (among others). Amen! Preach it. In AIX, I do this with the following snippets: I have a config

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-15 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 17:12:10 +0100, Costa, Justino justino.co...@logica.com said: As each path must match the machine device, manually redefining a drive and it's paths (due to serial number change) it's an headache and, most importantly, a very time consuming task. So, I manage this with

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-13 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
So, are you saying that I always need to delete and redefine all connections to the drive being replaced? I have just tried this and will see if it works. From: Bob Levad ble...@winnebagoind.com To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 07/10/2009 04:56 PM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Replacing tape drives (or

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-13 Thread Tchuise, Bertaut
Zoltan, You don't need to delete and redefine all connections to the drive being replaced. All you need to do before a drive change is to make sure that the drive is not used and that you take the path to the drive offline. Once IBM replaces the drive (using the same S/N as the replaced drive),

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-13 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Well, that didn't do it. Completely deleted and redefined the paths to this drive and the drive itself. None of the library-client TSM servers can access the replacement drive eventhough its serial-number is now the same as the original. The server that owns the drive (and was rebooted) can

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-13 Thread Bob Levad
That is right, of course, you don't NEED to work with anything except the problem drive. The only reason we drop the whole library and re-define it is that it is easy once the script is written and you don't need to be concerned with what was changed. Everything will re-detect just fine if all

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-13 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Well then I must have some other problem or am missing something. Even deleting and redefining did not make it work on the non-libraryowning servers. All of the paths are defined with autodetect. I tested with my 6.1 test server. Even stopping and restarting both lin_taped and the TSM server

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-10 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Well the consensus is to change the serial number of the replaced drive, which I did. However, since I had already rebooted the library owning server, to discover the new serial number, I rebooted it again and it seems to access the replaced drive, just fine. However (isn't there always a

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-10 Thread Bob Levad
Zoltan, In playing with various DR scenarios and working through occasional hardware problems, I found it difficult to get all the right commands entered correctly and in the correct sequence and with the library/drives in the correct states so I created scripts that delete and re-define

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-09 Thread Baker, Jane
We use LTO2 LTO3 in a 3584 and the CE always sets the serial number to match the old one so that we don't have this problem, same as Sean. Regards, Jane. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Len Boyle Sent: 08 July 2009 18:30

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-09 Thread Hart, Charles A
Dumb ? - But I was under the impression that the TS3500 (3584)'s drive Serial Numbers were tied to the Drive Cage (rail) so the SN and WWN were static... Maybe I'm thinking 3494 w/ 3592 Drives. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-09 Thread Len Boyle
You are correct in that the TS3500 (3584)'s drive WWN are tied to the Drive Cage. But the serial number goes with the drive. But the FE are supposed to move the old drive's serial number into the replacement drives for LT03 and higher. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-09 Thread Nicholas Rodolfich
Sean, Not much help to offer here but, I have been involved in many LTO drive replacements in 3584s and have never changed any hardware serial number. The only serial number that needs to change is the one TSM is using in its drive definition which should automatically get picked up on the TSM

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-09 Thread Roger Deschner
NOW you tell me. I just went through a terrible time replacing a HP LTO-4 drive in a library. After futzing around for several hours, I wound up bouncing the TSM server. Other vendors (Sun/STC, HP...) aren't sympathetic to requests to change the drive serial number. I don't think serial number

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-09 Thread Costa, Justino
I don't care if the serial number changes. In one of the sites I manage, I have 47 drives in use by 1 library manager, sharing them with 4 servers and 60 storage agents. This results on more than 1400 paths defined on the library manager. As each path must match the machine device, manually

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-09 Thread Wanda Prather
I've been following this thread and have a question about AUTODETECT: I've seen this message: ANR8955I Drive drive name in library library name with serial number serial number is updated with the newly discovered serial number serial number . as a result of having the drives defined with

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-09 Thread Costa, Justino
There must be a reason why sandiscovery defaults to off on non-windows platforms. Anyway, I think you're right and that *should* be the correct behavior of SANDISCOVERY=ON. However, I prefer to stick with persistent binding and tight control on SAN changes. This way, I can at least avoid

Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-08 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
I need thoughts/suggestions/help on how to deal with SAN attached tape drive replacements when a library is shared amongst 5-servers. We just has a drive replaced, therefore giving us a new serial number (3494ATL - TS1130). All servers that use these drives/libraries are RedHat Linux and use

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-08 Thread Sean English
Zoltan, The majority of our TSM servers are AIX and we do have a setup where we share multiple library clients with one library. When we have IBM CEs come out and replace drives, they just change the serial number on the new drive to match the old drive they are replacing. Apparently there is a

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-08 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Thanks for the duh suggestion. I know how to get into the CE mode to change the serial number and it would make life simpler. For this drive, since it was an upgrade, this will work. However, for new drives with maintenance, I think they would frown on changing the serial #. I still would like

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-08 Thread Sean English
Well, to speak on that as well, we just had 8 new drives put into one of the libraries managed by this library manager. We were told by TSM that you are not able to just define new drives and paths to TSM because TSM is not going to recognize the element numbers. We had to recycle the library

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-08 Thread Gee, Norman
When IBM replace my drives on maintenance (3592-J1A and LTO4), they unloaded the VPD from the old drive and downloaded the VPD to the new drive. They also place a sticky label indicating the original serial number. IBM also has to keep their records correct for field maintenance. Our

Re: Replacing tape drives (or there has to be a better way)

2009-07-08 Thread Len Boyle
In fact we found out that for lto-3 and lto-4 tape drives in an IBM 3584 library, it is required that they change the serial number to match the old tape drive. Because IBM tracks the drives by serial number for maint contracts. This we found when the serial numbers that we send in for a maint