Re: SV: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-04-30 Thread Pawlos Gizaw
, March 19, 2009 10:34 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] SV: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) As many say your mileage may vary You can positively impact the Dedupe factor by ... 1) No Client Side Compressions (Compressed files always have unique Sig) 2) No Client Side Encryption (TSM

Re: SV: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-04-30 Thread David E Ehresman
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] SV: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) As many say your mileage may vary You can positively impact the Dedupe factor by ... 1) No Client Side Compressions (Compressed files always have unique Sig) 2) No Client Side Encryption (TSM or OS) - Encrypted Data is always unique like

Re: SV: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-04-30 Thread Hart, Charles A
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] SV: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) Does anyone use TS7569G with TSM 5.4 running on AIX 5.2. This devices works fine on HPUX 11 v3 with TSM 5.5 by emulating ATL P300. But we are trying to test on AIX server the cfgmgr created all the devices files for the tape drives but not able

Re: SV: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-04-30 Thread Pawlos Gizaw
, April 30, 2009 1:43 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] SV: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) What tape drive are you emulating? Do you have a current version of the atape driver on your AIX server? TSM server on AIX uses the atape driver rather than the TSM drivers. David Ehresman

Re: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-26 Thread Hart, Charles A
. Regards, Charles -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of km Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:52 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) On 21/03, Hart, Charles A wrote: It works well if you

Re: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-25 Thread km
On 21/03, Hart, Charles A wrote: It works well if you understand your data and how you can push to it with in reason before you deploy another. The IBM product likes more CPU cores ... Understand these are x86 boxes... We see up to 500MBS Writes to one of our VTL's that ingests Exchange

Recall: [ADSM-L] VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-23 Thread Hart, Charles A
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Re: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-23 Thread Hart, Charles A
I imagine the 1400MBS is for the Clustered version? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kelly Lipp Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:36 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) The white paper I

Re: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-23 Thread Kelly Lipp
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) I imagine the 1400MBS is for the Clustered version? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kelly Lipp Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:36 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU

Re: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-21 Thread W. Curtis Preston
4:44 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) Dedupe is an errand boy, sent by the storage industry, to collect a bill. Dedupe is the enemy of throughput. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of W

Re: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-21 Thread Kelly Lipp
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) Funny. I would say that BAD dedupe is the enemy of throughput. There IS good dedupe. I've seen it. It hurts neither backup, nor restore performance. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads

Re: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-21 Thread Hart, Charles A
Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of W. Curtis Preston Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:24 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) Funny. I would say that BAD dedupe is the enemy of throughput. There IS good

Re: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-20 Thread Alex Paschal
] VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) Hi, Does anyone here has been implementing or know how Dedup works in TSM using TS7569G ? Let say I have 100 TB of data and backup to this VTL. On the 1st attempt of backup / full backup, will this data size decrease on the VTL BR, Martin P This message (including

Re: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-20 Thread Kelly Lipp
Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Alex Paschal Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:03 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) Hi, Sabar. I couldn't find a TS7569G via Google, but on the TS7650G, also a deduping VTL, after data goes through

Re: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-20 Thread Alex Paschal
[mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kelly Lipp Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 10:12 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) Funny, but I was researching the TS7650 yesterday and found this article on the IBM website. Pretty good detail about the product

Re: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-20 Thread W. Curtis Preston
Why do you hate all things dedupe? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kelly Lipp Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 10:12 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) Funny, but I was researching the TS7650

Re: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-20 Thread Clark, Robert A
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) Why do you hate all things dedupe? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kelly Lipp Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 10:12 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G

Re: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-20 Thread Huebschman, George J.
LOL -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Clark, Robert A Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 7:44 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) Dedupe is an errand boy, sent by the storage industry, to collect

VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-19 Thread Sabar Martin Hasiholan Panggabean
Hi, Does anyone here has been implementing or know how Dedup works in TSM using TS7569G ? Let say I have 100 TB of data and backup to this VTL. On the 1st attempt of backup / full backup, will this data size decrease on the VTL BR, Martin P

SV: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-19 Thread Christian Svensson
...@vm.marist.edu] f#246;r Sabar Martin Hasiholan Panggabean [sabar.hasiho...@metrodata.co.id] Skickat: den 19 mars 2009 13:09 Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Ämne: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) Hi, Does anyone here has been implementing or know how Dedup works in TSM using TS7569G ? Let say I have 100 TB

Re: SV: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G)

2009-03-19 Thread Hart, Charles A
, March 19, 2009 7:42 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] SV: VTL and Dedup ( TS7569G) Hi Martin, The 1st Backup will probably don't do any major save for you. It always depend on what kind of data you backup. What we normally see is saving on Archive Data and TDP Data. Everything else