Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-06-16 Thread John Monahan
-Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Harris Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:23 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: best backup method for millions of small files? Hi Norman Your post worries me, as I'm just

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-05-01 Thread Howard Coles
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] best backup method for millions of small files? Hi Norman Your post worries me, as I'm just implementing an email archive solution that will depend on windows journalling to back up some huge repositories. The particular product fills up containers that once

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-05-01 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
Re: [ADSM-L] best backup method for millions of small files? 01/05/2009 07:12 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ads...@vm.marist .EDU

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Francisco Molero
. - Mensaje original De: Mehdi Salehi iranian.aix.supp...@gmail.com Para: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Enviado: jueves, 30 de abril, 2009 7:48:47 Asunto: Re: best backup method for millions of small files? Richard, The total nightly delta size is about 300MB (less than 20,000 of 20k files) I am trying

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Hi, I enabled the journal service for drive F: of a test windows-based TSM client. Here is the interesting test results: 1- total filesystem size:14GB 2- used space: 370MB (pdf, doc, exe and ... other ordinary files) 3- I enabled journal 4- snapshot image backup was successful 5- the .jbbdb file

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Cheung, Richard
[mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mehdi Salehi Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2009 5:30 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] best backup method for millions of small files? Hi, I enabled the journal service for drive F: of a test windows-based TSM client. Here is the interesting

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Mehdi Salehi
I added a new directory with 40MB of files in it. This directory is a new one that was not present when the image backup was performed. I think the most rudimentary task that is expected from an incremental backup is to understand newly added files and directories.

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Francisco Molero
, 2009 10:10:38 Asunto: Re: best backup method for millions of small files? I added a new directory with 40MB of files in it. This directory is a new one that was not present when the image backup was performed. I think the most rudimentary task that is expected from an incremental backup

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Francisco, Thanks for the hint. What is the mechanism used by FastBack that is helpful for my case? Thanks so much, Mehdi

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Francisco Molero
from X: to K: Regards, Fran - Mensaje original De: Mehdi Salehi iranian.aix.supp...@gmail.com Para: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Enviado: jueves, 30 de abril, 2009 10:15:37 Asunto: Re: best backup method for millions of small files? Francisco, Thanks for the hint. What is the mechanism

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2009-04-30 Thread Christian Svensson
[iranian.aix.supp...@gmail.com] Skickat: den 30 april 2009 10:15 Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Ämne: Re: best backup method for millions of small files? Francisco, Thanks for the hint. What is the mechanism used by FastBack that is helpful for my case? Thanks so much, Mehdi

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Dwight Cook
...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mehdi Salehi Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:28 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] best backup method for millions of small files? Hi, There is an NTFS filesystem in windows with 20 millions of small files less than 20 KB each. The total size

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Dwight, We tried our best to convince the application side to change the big mount point, but it is another story. It is a product, and probably one day they will be abliged to change it. What I need today is the best way to protect the volume and keep the service highly available. We do have

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Steven Harris
Dist Stor cc Manager ads...@vm.marist Subject .EDU Re: [ADSM-L] best backup method for millions of small files

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Hi, None the two methods that you mean in the user's guide are suitable for my case. Image+normal incremental that you emphasized in your post means getting full image backups for example every week. For the incremental part, one file-based full backup is needed which is a nightmare for 20

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
[mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mehdi Salehi Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:39 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] best backup method for millions of small files? Hi, None the two methods that you mean in the user's guide are suitable for my case. Image+normal

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Gee, Norman
too long. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:16 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: best backup method for millions of small files? You have a disk array copy

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Steven Harris
] best backup method for millions of small files? 01/05/2009 07:12 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ads...@vm.marist .EDU What options

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-30 Thread Allan Mills
ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 01/05/2009 09:39 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] best backup method for millions of small files? Hi Norman Your post worries me, as I'm just implementing an email archive solution

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2009-04-30 Thread Allan Mills
Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] best backup method for millions of small files? Steve Had this problem last week and found this Microsoft Technet article. Fixed the problem after a reboot http://support.microsoft.com/kb/30401 Regards, Allan Allan Mills Technology

best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-29 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Hi, There is an NTFS filesystem in windows with 20 millions of small files less than 20 KB each. The total size of the filesystem is less than 300GB. I have not tried incremental backup, because that would be a nightmare. Again, inc backup is not a good choice because the long restoration time is

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-29 Thread Cheung, Richard
: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mehdi Salehi Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2009 1:58 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] best backup method for millions of small files? Hi, There is an NTFS filesystem in windows with 20 millions of small files less than 20 KB

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-29 Thread Mehdi Salehi
I forgot to say that all files are in a single directory!

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-29 Thread Steven Harris
...@vm.marist Subject .EDU [ADSM-L] best backup method for millions of small files? 30/04/2009

Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-29 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Thanks Steve, I will test it. Regards, Mehdi Salehi

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2009-04-29 Thread Cheung, Richard
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Re: best backup method for millions of small files?

2009-04-29 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Richard, The total nightly delta size is about 300MB (less than 20,000 of 20k files) I am trying to test the journal to verify whether it works with incremental-by-date for image backups or not. If you have any other solution, it is welcomed. Mehdi Salehi