Re: How to define Library2

2009-02-26 Thread Wanda Prather
OK, everybody's at the latest AIX and TSM 5.5.2.  The shared library
 manager, NT, now handles CAPEKLIB1 for N1-N6 and has no clients of its own.



So NAS clients have to talk to a different library, right?


No.

 And Mr. SAN, two desks down, says all physical connections should be
 LANFree (and Liverpool just scored against Real Madrid on tape, so I've got
 distractions).


Um.  Not necessarily.  I think maybe you are reading old stuff about TSM
NDMP support.  You have 2 choices for NDMP, Lan-free or TCP;/IP.

You need to read carefully to understand the differences.  Obviously,
Lan-free keeps the traffic off your LAN.  But there are consequences.  You
get special NDMP tapes this way, and you can't copy them- you have to
vault your primary tapes if you want them to go offsite - are you prepared
for that?  If you do your NDMP backup via the LAN, the data goes into the
regular TSM pool hierarchy, and you can create copy pools with the data.
And do individual file restores by creating the TOC.

You need to figure out what your requirements are first, then figure out the
architcture.  I'm no NDMP expert, but I think you need to ask more questions
from people here who have NDMP expertise before you go further...



 773-702-8464


 -Original Message-
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 Wanda Prather
 Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:15 PM
 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] How to define Library2

 Please give your TSM server version  platform when posting, you'll get
 better results.  I can only assume that NT here is a Windows box and you
 are running at least TSm 5.4.  You also don't say whether you intend to
 backup the NAS via Lan-Free or TCP/IP; they are quite different

 I don't understand why you are creating a new logical library in the TS3500
 for this instead of using the existing one; but since you are doing it this
 way, SOME TSM server has to own library CAPEKLIB2.  It's not clear from
 your
 post whether you want NT to own it also, or N6 (which presumably is also a
 client of CAPEKLIB1, which is allowed).

 But I'm assuming you want it to belong to N6, non-shared:

 a) use the library web interface to create a control point on a drive in
 logical library CAPEKLIB2.
 b) zone the library  drives so they are jvisible on the SAN to N6
 c) In Windows Device Manager, right click and select scan for new
 hardware.
 d) In the TSM Management Console Device Driver window, you should now have
 a
 new lbx.x.x.y and new drives mtx.x.x.y.

 Then you can do your DEFINE LIBRARY.

 W

 On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Fred Johanson f...@uchicago.edu wrote:

  For years we've lived happily in the situation of TSM instance (and
  machine) NT whose only function is to serve as library manager for our 6
  production (N1-N6) and test (N7) TSM.  NT controls a TS3500 named CAPEK
  which has a logical library (1-01) known to N1-N6 as CAPEKLIB1.  So far,
  everything works finem no questions.
 
  Now we're setting up TSM for NAS.  Our first NAS client will live on N6.
   We have defined on CAPEK a new virtual library (1-02) with the
 appropriate
  drives and label range.  We think of this as CAPEKLIB2, an entity
 distinct
  from the active shared Library Manager defined on N1-N6 as CAPEKLIB1.
 
  So now I sit at the command line of N6 and worry.  If I enter the command
  def libr CAPEKLIB2 shared=no etc., etc. I don't see how that associates
  with the virtual library 1-02 on the TS3500.  I'm obviously missing
  something as plain as the nose on my face, but what is it?
 
  Fred Johanson
  TSM Administrator
  University of Chicago
 
  773-702-8464
 



Re: How to define Library2

2009-02-26 Thread Gee, Norman
 


NDMP support.  You have 2 choices for NDMP, Lan-free or TCP;/IP.

You need to read carefully to understand the differences.  Obviously,
Lan-free keeps the traffic off your LAN.  But there are consequences.
You
get special NDMP tapes this way, and you can't copy them- you have to
vault your primary tapes if you want them to go offsite - are you
prepared


You can backup your primary pool LAN free NDMP volumes to copypools.

I accidently damage one volume of my primary pool and was able to
restore it from my copypool.
I only vault copypool NDMP backups.



for that?  If you do your NDMP backup via the LAN, the data goes into
the
regular TSM pool hierarchy, and you can create copy pools with the data.
And do individual file restores by creating the TOC.

You need to figure out what your requirements are first, then figure out
the
architcture.  I'm no NDMP expert, but I think you need to ask more
questions
from people here who have NDMP expertise before you go further...


Re: How to define Library2

2009-02-25 Thread Wanda Prather
Please give your TSM server version  platform when posting, you'll get
better results.  I can only assume that NT here is a Windows box and you
are running at least TSm 5.4.  You also don't say whether you intend to
backup the NAS via Lan-Free or TCP/IP; they are quite different

I don't understand why you are creating a new logical library in the TS3500
for this instead of using the existing one; but since you are doing it this
way, SOME TSM server has to own library CAPEKLIB2.  It's not clear from your
post whether you want NT to own it also, or N6 (which presumably is also a
client of CAPEKLIB1, which is allowed).

But I'm assuming you want it to belong to N6, non-shared:

a) use the library web interface to create a control point on a drive in
logical library CAPEKLIB2.
b) zone the library  drives so they are jvisible on the SAN to N6
c) In Windows Device Manager, right click and select scan for new
hardware.
d) In the TSM Management Console Device Driver window, you should now have a
new lbx.x.x.y and new drives mtx.x.x.y.

Then you can do your DEFINE LIBRARY.

W

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Fred Johanson f...@uchicago.edu wrote:

 For years we've lived happily in the situation of TSM instance (and
 machine) NT whose only function is to serve as library manager for our 6
 production (N1-N6) and test (N7) TSM.  NT controls a TS3500 named CAPEK
 which has a logical library (1-01) known to N1-N6 as CAPEKLIB1.  So far,
 everything works finem no questions.

 Now we're setting up TSM for NAS.  Our first NAS client will live on N6.
  We have defined on CAPEK a new virtual library (1-02) with the appropriate
 drives and label range.  We think of this as CAPEKLIB2, an entity distinct
 from the active shared Library Manager defined on N1-N6 as CAPEKLIB1.

 So now I sit at the command line of N6 and worry.  If I enter the command
 def libr CAPEKLIB2 shared=no etc., etc. I don't see how that associates
 with the virtual library 1-02 on the TS3500.  I'm obviously missing
 something as plain as the nose on my face, but what is it?

 Fred Johanson
 TSM Administrator
 University of Chicago

 773-702-8464



Re: How to define Library2

2009-02-25 Thread Fred Johanson
OK, everybody's at the latest AIX and TSM 5.5.2.  The shared library manager, 
NT, now handles CAPEKLIB1 for N1-N6 and has no clients of its own.  The 
thinking behind this was that NT could be restarted in an instant with nothing 
more than the default DB and Log.  So NAS clients have to talk to a different 
library, right?  And Mr. SAN, two desks down, says all physical connections 
should be LANFree (and Liverpool just scored against Real Madrid on tape, so 
I've got distractions).  My reading of manuals is that the NAS can't use NT as 
it is currently used.  That's why I created the second logical library on the 
TS3500.

Fred Johanson
TSM Administrator
University of Chicago

773-702-8464


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Wanda 
Prather
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:15 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] How to define Library2

Please give your TSM server version  platform when posting, you'll get
better results.  I can only assume that NT here is a Windows box and you
are running at least TSm 5.4.  You also don't say whether you intend to
backup the NAS via Lan-Free or TCP/IP; they are quite different

I don't understand why you are creating a new logical library in the TS3500
for this instead of using the existing one; but since you are doing it this
way, SOME TSM server has to own library CAPEKLIB2.  It's not clear from your
post whether you want NT to own it also, or N6 (which presumably is also a
client of CAPEKLIB1, which is allowed).

But I'm assuming you want it to belong to N6, non-shared:

a) use the library web interface to create a control point on a drive in
logical library CAPEKLIB2.
b) zone the library  drives so they are jvisible on the SAN to N6
c) In Windows Device Manager, right click and select scan for new
hardware.
d) In the TSM Management Console Device Driver window, you should now have a
new lbx.x.x.y and new drives mtx.x.x.y.

Then you can do your DEFINE LIBRARY.

W

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Fred Johanson f...@uchicago.edu wrote:

 For years we've lived happily in the situation of TSM instance (and
 machine) NT whose only function is to serve as library manager for our 6
 production (N1-N6) and test (N7) TSM.  NT controls a TS3500 named CAPEK
 which has a logical library (1-01) known to N1-N6 as CAPEKLIB1.  So far,
 everything works finem no questions.

 Now we're setting up TSM for NAS.  Our first NAS client will live on N6.
  We have defined on CAPEK a new virtual library (1-02) with the appropriate
 drives and label range.  We think of this as CAPEKLIB2, an entity distinct
 from the active shared Library Manager defined on N1-N6 as CAPEKLIB1.

 So now I sit at the command line of N6 and worry.  If I enter the command
 def libr CAPEKLIB2 shared=no etc., etc. I don't see how that associates
 with the virtual library 1-02 on the TS3500.  I'm obviously missing
 something as plain as the nose on my face, but what is it?

 Fred Johanson
 TSM Administrator
 University of Chicago

 773-702-8464