Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
Sorry, here http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > -Original Message- > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:ADVANCED- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Blewett > Sent: 10 September 2008 07:13 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > > Just a heads up that the archive appears to be accessible here > > http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=advanced- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Regards > > Richard > > > -Original Message- > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:ADVANCED- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Blewett > > Sent: 09 September 2008 23:54 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > > > > The main thing moving the list to another listserv is preserving the > > searchable archive > > > > Regards > > > > Richard > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:ADVANCED- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sébastien Lorion > > > Sent: 09 September 2008 23:12 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > > > > > > Ok, let us know then. I personally don't really care where the list > > > goes as > > > long as it continues to exist in its present useful state. To help > > > decide > > > where it goes, what are the advantages/inconvenients of moving to > > > another > > > server vs Google Groups ? > > > > > > Sébastien > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Efran Cobisi > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I am waiting for DevelopMentor to give me the authorization and > all > > > of > > > > the lists' archive data in order to begin the migration process. > > > > Once I have those informations in my hands I would (almost) > > certainly > > > > proceed. > > > > > > > > I will let you know as soon as I receive something from them > back. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Efran Cobisi > > > > http://www.cobisi.com > > > > > > > > John Warner wrote: > > > > > > > >> Don't give up on Efran yet. His idea if he can pull it off of > > moving > > > the > > > >> list(s) to one of his servers would and still seems like the > best > > > option. > > > >> None of these lists has enough traffic to load down his > bandwidth > > I > > > would > > > >> imagine. Google would just be so hard to keep the spammers out. > > > >> > > > >> John Warner > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -Original Message- > > > >>> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > > > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark > > Hurd > > > >>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:39 PM > > > >>> To: [email protected] > > > >>> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> It looks like we're moving to Google Groups (unless the > > > >>> offer(s) to move the lists work out), but for those of you > > > >>> would like to continue with a normal email list albeit with > > > >>> more traffic, including VB.NET, C# and .NET general topics > > > >>> and the odd "flame war and such childish things" but mostly > > > >>> limited to Australian Fridays, I'm unofficially inviting you > > > >>> to join the .NET Australia mailing list: > > > >>> > > > >>> To subscribe, send an empty message to > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> > > > >>> It is mirrored in this Google group (mostly for archival > > purposes): > > > >>> > > > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/ausdotnetlist > > > >>> > > > >>> To reiterate, this is NOT a replacement to these advanced low > > > >>> volume lists, but there are MVPs on the Australian list so > > >
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
Just a heads up that the archive appears to be accessible here http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Richard > -Original Message- > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:ADVANCED- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Blewett > Sent: 09 September 2008 23:54 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > > The main thing moving the list to another listserv is preserving the > searchable archive > > Regards > > Richard > > > -Original Message- > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:ADVANCED- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sébastien Lorion > > Sent: 09 September 2008 23:12 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > > > > Ok, let us know then. I personally don't really care where the list > > goes as > > long as it continues to exist in its present useful state. To help > > decide > > where it goes, what are the advantages/inconvenients of moving to > > another > > server vs Google Groups ? > > > > Sébastien > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Efran Cobisi > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I am waiting for DevelopMentor to give me the authorization and all > > of > > > the lists' archive data in order to begin the migration process. > > > Once I have those informations in my hands I would (almost) > certainly > > > proceed. > > > > > > I will let you know as soon as I receive something from them back. > > > > > > -- > > > Efran Cobisi > > > http://www.cobisi.com > > > > > > John Warner wrote: > > > > > >> Don't give up on Efran yet. His idea if he can pull it off of > moving > > the > > >> list(s) to one of his servers would and still seems like the best > > option. > > >> None of these lists has enough traffic to load down his bandwidth > I > > would > > >> imagine. Google would just be so hard to keep the spammers out. > > >> > > >> John Warner > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -Original Message- > > >>> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark > Hurd > > >>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:39 PM > > >>> To: [email protected] > > >>> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> It looks like we're moving to Google Groups (unless the > > >>> offer(s) to move the lists work out), but for those of you > > >>> would like to continue with a normal email list albeit with > > >>> more traffic, including VB.NET, C# and .NET general topics > > >>> and the odd "flame war and such childish things" but mostly > > >>> limited to Australian Fridays, I'm unofficially inviting you > > >>> to join the .NET Australia mailing list: > > >>> > > >>> To subscribe, send an empty message to > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> > > >>> It is mirrored in this Google group (mostly for archival > purposes): > > >>> > > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/ausdotnetlist > > >>> > > >>> To reiterate, this is NOT a replacement to these advanced low > > >>> volume lists, but there are MVPs on the Australian list so > > >>> you do get useful responses to advanced queries. > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) > > >>> > > >>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion > > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created > > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can > > >>>> > > >>>> simply join > > >>> > > >>> the group. > > >>>> > > >>>> Sébastien > > >>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young > > >>>> > > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>> > > >>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >&
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
The main thing moving the list to another listserv is preserving the searchable archive Regards Richard > -Original Message- > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:ADVANCED- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sébastien Lorion > Sent: 09 September 2008 23:12 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > > Ok, let us know then. I personally don't really care where the list > goes as > long as it continues to exist in its present useful state. To help > decide > where it goes, what are the advantages/inconvenients of moving to > another > server vs Google Groups ? > > Sébastien > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Efran Cobisi > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I am waiting for DevelopMentor to give me the authorization and all > of > > the lists' archive data in order to begin the migration process. > > Once I have those informations in my hands I would (almost) certainly > > proceed. > > > > I will let you know as soon as I receive something from them back. > > > > -- > > Efran Cobisi > > http://www.cobisi.com > > > > John Warner wrote: > > > >> Don't give up on Efran yet. His idea if he can pull it off of moving > the > >> list(s) to one of his servers would and still seems like the best > option. > >> None of these lists has enough traffic to load down his bandwidth I > would > >> imagine. Google would just be so hard to keep the spammers out. > >> > >> John Warner > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >>> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Hurd > >>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:39 PM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > >>> > >>> > >>> It looks like we're moving to Google Groups (unless the > >>> offer(s) to move the lists work out), but for those of you > >>> would like to continue with a normal email list albeit with > >>> more traffic, including VB.NET, C# and .NET general topics > >>> and the odd "flame war and such childish things" but mostly > >>> limited to Australian Fridays, I'm unofficially inviting you > >>> to join the .NET Australia mailing list: > >>> > >>> To subscribe, send an empty message to > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> It is mirrored in this Google group (mostly for archival purposes): > >>> > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/ausdotnetlist > >>> > >>> To reiterate, this is NOT a replacement to these advanced low > >>> volume lists, but there are MVPs on the Australian list so > >>> you do get useful responses to advanced queries. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) > >>> > >>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can > >>>> > >>>> simply join > >>> > >>> the group. > >>>> > >>>> Sébastien > >>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young > >>>> > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Well we can always just create a google group and move on over > ... > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> > >>>>> Greg > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion > >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as > >>>>>> this > >>>>>> > >>>>>> list > >>>>> > >>>>> has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can > >>>>>> remember, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> no > >>>>> > >>>>> flame wars or such childish things. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
Ok, let us know then. I personally don't really care where the list goes as long as it continues to exist in its present useful state. To help decide where it goes, what are the advantages/inconvenients of moving to another server vs Google Groups ? Sébastien On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Efran Cobisi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hi all, > > I am waiting for DevelopMentor to give me the authorization and all of > the lists' archive data in order to begin the migration process. > Once I have those informations in my hands I would (almost) certainly > proceed. > > I will let you know as soon as I receive something from them back. > > -- > Efran Cobisi > http://www.cobisi.com > > John Warner wrote: > >> Don't give up on Efran yet. His idea if he can pull it off of moving the >> list(s) to one of his servers would and still seems like the best option. >> None of these lists has enough traffic to load down his bandwidth I would >> imagine. Google would just be so hard to keep the spammers out. >> >> John Warner >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >>> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Hurd >>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:39 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ >>> >>> >>> It looks like we're moving to Google Groups (unless the >>> offer(s) to move the lists work out), but for those of you >>> would like to continue with a normal email list albeit with >>> more traffic, including VB.NET, C# and .NET general topics >>> and the odd "flame war and such childish things" but mostly >>> limited to Australian Fridays, I'm unofficially inviting you >>> to join the .NET Australia mailing list: >>> >>> To subscribe, send an empty message to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> It is mirrored in this Google group (mostly for archival purposes): >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/ausdotnetlist >>> >>> To reiterate, this is NOT a replacement to these advanced low >>> volume lists, but there are MVPs on the Australian list so >>> you do get useful responses to advanced queries. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can >>>> >>>> simply join >>> >>> the group. >>>> >>>> Sébastien >>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young >>>> >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ... >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Greg >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as >>>>>> this >>>>>> >>>>>> list >>>>> >>>>> has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can >>>>>> remember, >>>>>> >>>>>> no >>>>> >>>>> flame wars or such childish things. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sébastien >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett < >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> web forums >>> >>> and other discussion mediums. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there >>>>>>> instead of this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or >>>>>>> whatever? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> DevelopMentor >>>>> >>>>> could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lack of exit strategy... painful every time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> === >>> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com >>> >>> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at >>> http://discuss.develop.com >>> >>> >>> >> === >> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com >> >> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at >> http://discuss.develop.com >> >> > === > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > http://discuss.develop.com > === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
Good suggestion, I changed that settings. Sébastien On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Pardee, Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My recommendation would be to require that new members have their first > posts moderated. That should cut down on bots joining up, sending X number > of spam messages, and then abandoning their accounts. > > -Original Message- > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sébastien Lorion > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > > For now I made the list public to make it easier for me and everyone, but I > could make it so that a new user needs to send a request before becoming a > member and existing members can invite friends. I think that should at least > stop the spammers. > > As for signal to noise, I could make it invite only (how effective it would > be, I am not sure). It would also have the side effect that newbies would be > virtually excluded, which I see as a rather good thing. There are already > many places for them elsewhere... > > Let me know what you think. Also, it would be good to have at least 2 > people managing the list, so if something happens to me, you are not all out > of luck :p Any volunteer(s) ? > > Sébastien > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Pardee, Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hah--thanks for the laugh. > > > > Not for nothing, but I suspect/fear that one big reason we've had such > > a high signal/noise ratio on here is the relative obscurity of the > > list. I love google groups (and will join the new one, as well as > > Efran's) but won't be surprised if our bright stars are diluted in fairly > short order. > > > > But maybe I'm just an elitist bastard... ;-) > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zaccariah Bowling > > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:13 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > > > > Errr woops. That was supposed to be a directly reply. Used to mailman > > type list servers allowing me to reply directly. > > > > Now everyone knows our evil plans. That sucks. > > > > Zac > > > > On Sep 8, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Zaccariah Bowling wrote: > > > > > Just have us mono contributors take over the list. We could use it > > > as part of our plans of world domination where we can control the > > > content and lightly sway and shape the base over to getting everyone > > > over to running their CLI code on Linux over time. Muhaha.. (I'm > > > just upset because my interview at Microsoft didn't go as well as I > > > hoped on > > > Friday) > > > > > > Anyways, I didn't know you followed the list too Sebastion? That's > > > awesome I know Miguel and Kangaroo follow too. > > > > > > Zac > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Sébastien Lorion wrote: > > > > > >> Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created > > >> http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can simply > > >> join the group. > > >> > > >> Sébastien > > >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ... > > >>> > > >>> Cheers, > > >>> > > >>> Greg > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion > > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>> I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as > > >>>> this > > >>> list > > >>>> has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can > > >>>> remember, > > >>> no > > >>>> flame wars or such childish things. > > >>>> > > >>>> Sébastien > > >>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt > > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett < > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> the world has
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
Yes--group settings -> access tab--way at the bottom under "Message moderation" there's a box to check to moderate the messages of "new members". -Original Message- From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Ritchie Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ Can you do that with Google groups? On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:28:23 -0700, Pardee, Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >My recommendation would be to require that new members have their first posts moderated. That should cut down on bots joining up, sending X number of spam messages, and then abandoning their accounts. === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(r) http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
Can you do that with Google groups? On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:28:23 -0700, Pardee, Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >My recommendation would be to require that new members have their first posts moderated. That should cut down on bots joining up, sending X number of spam messages, and then abandoning their accounts. === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
My recommendation would be to require that new members have their first posts moderated. That should cut down on bots joining up, sending X number of spam messages, and then abandoning their accounts. -Original Message- From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sébastien Lorion Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ For now I made the list public to make it easier for me and everyone, but I could make it so that a new user needs to send a request before becoming a member and existing members can invite friends. I think that should at least stop the spammers. As for signal to noise, I could make it invite only (how effective it would be, I am not sure). It would also have the side effect that newbies would be virtually excluded, which I see as a rather good thing. There are already many places for them elsewhere... Let me know what you think. Also, it would be good to have at least 2 people managing the list, so if something happens to me, you are not all out of luck :p Any volunteer(s) ? Sébastien On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Pardee, Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hah--thanks for the laugh. > > Not for nothing, but I suspect/fear that one big reason we've had such > a high signal/noise ratio on here is the relative obscurity of the > list. I love google groups (and will join the new one, as well as > Efran's) but won't be surprised if our bright stars are diluted in fairly > short order. > > But maybe I'm just an elitist bastard... ;-) > > -Original Message- > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zaccariah Bowling > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > > Errr woops. That was supposed to be a directly reply. Used to mailman > type list servers allowing me to reply directly. > > Now everyone knows our evil plans. That sucks. > > Zac > > On Sep 8, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Zaccariah Bowling wrote: > > > Just have us mono contributors take over the list. We could use it > > as part of our plans of world domination where we can control the > > content and lightly sway and shape the base over to getting everyone > > over to running their CLI code on Linux over time. Muhaha.. (I'm > > just upset because my interview at Microsoft didn't go as well as I > > hoped on > > Friday) > > > > Anyways, I didn't know you followed the list too Sebastion? That's > > awesome I know Miguel and Kangaroo follow too. > > > > Zac > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Sébastien Lorion wrote: > > > >> Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created > >> http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can simply > >> join the group. > >> > >> Sébastien > >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ... > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Greg > >>> > >>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as > >>>> this > >>> list > >>>> has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can > >>>> remember, > >>> no > >>>> flame wars or such childish things. > >>>> > >>>> Sébastien > >>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett < > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web > >>>>>> forums and other discussion mediums. > >>>>> > >>>>> Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there > >>>>> instead of this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or > >>>>> whatever? > >>> DevelopMentor > >>>>> could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval. > >>>>> > >>>>> Lack of exit strategy... painful every time. > >>>>> > >>>>> ===
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
Wherever this group moves, count me in! It is a priceless source of information and it helped me solve many, many problems throughout the years. No matter what I want to continue to be part of it. Regards, Eddie -Original Message- From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Efran Cobisi Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ Hi all, I am waiting for DevelopMentor to give me the authorization and all of the lists' archive data in order to begin the migration process. Once I have those informations in my hands I would (almost) certainly proceed. I will let you know as soon as I receive something from them back. -- Efran Cobisi http://www.cobisi.com John Warner wrote: > Don't give up on Efran yet. His idea if he can pull it off of moving > the > list(s) to one of his servers would and still seems like the best option. > None of these lists has enough traffic to load down his bandwidth I > would imagine. Google would just be so hard to keep the spammers out. > > John Warner > > > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Hurd >> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:39 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ >> >> >> It looks like we're moving to Google Groups (unless the >> offer(s) to move the lists work out), but for those of you would like >> to continue with a normal email list albeit with more traffic, >> including VB.NET, C# and .NET general topics and the odd "flame war >> and such childish things" but mostly limited to Australian Fridays, >> I'm unofficially inviting you to join the .NET Australia mailing >> list: >> >> To subscribe, send an empty message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> It is mirrored in this Google group (mostly for archival purposes): >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/ausdotnetlist >> >> To reiterate, this is NOT a replacement to these advanced low volume >> lists, but there are MVPs on the Australian list so you do get useful >> responses to advanced queries. >> >> Regards, >> Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) >> >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created >>> http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can >>> >> simply join >> >>> the group. >>> >>> Sébastien >>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young >>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ... >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Greg >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as >>>>> this >>>>> >>>> list >>>> >>>>> has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can >>>>> remember, >>>>> >>>> no >>>> >>>>> flame wars or such childish things. >>>>> >>>>> Sébastien >>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett < >>>>>> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, >>>>>>> >> web forums >> >>>>>>> and other discussion mediums. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there >>>>>> instead of this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or >>>>>> whatever? >>>>>> >>>> DevelopMentor >>>> >>>>>> could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lack of exit strategy... painful every time. >>>>>> >> === >> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com >> >> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at >> http://discuss.develop.com >> >> > > === > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > http://discuss.develop.com > === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
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Hi all, I am waiting for DevelopMentor to give me the authorization and all of the lists' archive data in order to begin the migration process. Once I have those informations in my hands I would (almost) certainly proceed. I will let you know as soon as I receive something from them back. -- Efran Cobisi http://www.cobisi.com John Warner wrote: Don't give up on Efran yet. His idea if he can pull it off of moving the list(s) to one of his servers would and still seems like the best option. None of these lists has enough traffic to load down his bandwidth I would imagine. Google would just be so hard to keep the spammers out. John Warner -Original Message- From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Hurd Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ It looks like we're moving to Google Groups (unless the offer(s) to move the lists work out), but for those of you would like to continue with a normal email list albeit with more traffic, including VB.NET, C# and .NET general topics and the odd "flame war and such childish things" but mostly limited to Australian Fridays, I'm unofficially inviting you to join the .NET Australia mailing list: To subscribe, send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is mirrored in this Google group (mostly for archival purposes): http://groups.google.com/group/ausdotnetlist To reiterate, this is NOT a replacement to these advanced low volume lists, but there are MVPs on the Australian list so you do get useful responses to advanced queries. Regards, Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can simply join the group. Sébastien On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ... Cheers, Greg On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as this list has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can remember, no flame wars or such childish things. Sébastien On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums and other discussion mediums. Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there instead of this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or whatever? DevelopMentor could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval. Lack of exit strategy... painful every time. === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
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I'll happily help out if there are no other, more frequent posters who want to do it. Ben On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Sébastien Lorion <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > For now I made the list public to make it easier for me and everyone, but I > could make it so that a new user needs to send a request before becoming a > member and existing members can invite friends. I think that should at > least > stop the spammers. > > As for signal to noise, I could make it invite only (how effective it would > be, I am not sure). It would also have the side effect that newbies would > be > virtually excluded, which I see as a rather good thing. There are already > many places for them elsewhere... > > Let me know what you think. Also, it would be good to have at least 2 > people > managing the list, so if something happens to me, you are not all out of > luck :p Any volunteer(s) ? > > Sébastien > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Pardee, Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hah--thanks for the laugh. > > > > Not for nothing, but I suspect/fear that one big reason we've had such a > > high signal/noise ratio on here is the relative obscurity of the list. I > > love google groups (and will join the new one, as well as Efran's) but > won't > > be surprised if our bright stars are diluted in fairly short order. > > > > But maybe I'm just an elitist bastard... ;-) > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zaccariah Bowling > > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:13 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > > > > Errr woops. That was supposed to be a directly reply. Used to mailman > type > > list servers allowing me to reply directly. > > > > Now everyone knows our evil plans. That sucks. > > > > Zac > > > > On Sep 8, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Zaccariah Bowling wrote: > > > > > Just have us mono contributors take over the list. We could use it as > > > part of our plans of world domination where we can control the content > > > and lightly sway and shape the base over to getting everyone over to > > > running their CLI code on Linux over time. Muhaha.. (I'm just upset > > > because my interview at Microsoft didn't go as well as I hoped on > > > Friday) > > > > > > Anyways, I didn't know you followed the list too Sebastion? That's > > > awesome I know Miguel and Kangaroo follow too. > > > > > > Zac > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Sébastien Lorion wrote: > > > > > >> Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created > > >> http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can simply > > >> join the group. > > >> > > >> Sébastien > > >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ... > > >>> > > >>> Cheers, > > >>> > > >>> Greg > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion > > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>> I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as > > >>>> this > > >>> list > > >>>> has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can > > >>>> remember, > > >>> no > > >>>> flame wars or such childish things. > > >>>> > > >>>> Sébastien > > >>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt > > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett < > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums > > >>>>>> and other discussion mediums. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there > > >>>>> instead of this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or > > >>>>> whatever? > > >>> DevelopMentor > > >>>>> could still be moderators, to keep the st
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
Don't give up on Efran yet. His idea if he can pull it off of moving the list(s) to one of his servers would and still seems like the best option. None of these lists has enough traffic to load down his bandwidth I would imagine. Google would just be so hard to keep the spammers out. John Warner > -Original Message- > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Hurd > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:39 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > > > It looks like we're moving to Google Groups (unless the > offer(s) to move the lists work out), but for those of you > would like to continue with a normal email list albeit with > more traffic, including VB.NET, C# and .NET general topics > and the odd "flame war and such childish things" but mostly > limited to Australian Fridays, I'm unofficially inviting you > to join the .NET Australia mailing list: > > To subscribe, send an empty message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > It is mirrored in this Google group (mostly for archival purposes): > > http://groups.google.com/group/ausdotnetlist > > To reiterate, this is NOT a replacement to these advanced low > volume lists, but there are MVPs on the Australian list so > you do get useful responses to advanced queries. > > Regards, > Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created > > http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can > simply join > > the group. > > > > Sébastien > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ... > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Greg > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as > >> > this > >> list > >> > has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can > >> > remember, > >> no > >> > flame wars or such childish things. > >> > > >> > Sébastien > >> > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt > >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett < > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, > web forums > >> >> > and other discussion mediums. > >> >> > >> >> Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there > >> >> instead of this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or > >> >> whatever? > >> DevelopMentor > >> >> could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval. > >> >> > >> >> Lack of exit strategy... painful every time. > > === > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > http://discuss.develop.com > === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
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For now I made the list public to make it easier for me and everyone, but I could make it so that a new user needs to send a request before becoming a member and existing members can invite friends. I think that should at least stop the spammers. As for signal to noise, I could make it invite only (how effective it would be, I am not sure). It would also have the side effect that newbies would be virtually excluded, which I see as a rather good thing. There are already many places for them elsewhere... Let me know what you think. Also, it would be good to have at least 2 people managing the list, so if something happens to me, you are not all out of luck :p Any volunteer(s) ? Sébastien On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Pardee, Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hah--thanks for the laugh. > > Not for nothing, but I suspect/fear that one big reason we've had such a > high signal/noise ratio on here is the relative obscurity of the list. I > love google groups (and will join the new one, as well as Efran's) but won't > be surprised if our bright stars are diluted in fairly short order. > > But maybe I'm just an elitist bastard... ;-) > > -Original Message- > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zaccariah Bowling > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > > Errr woops. That was supposed to be a directly reply. Used to mailman type > list servers allowing me to reply directly. > > Now everyone knows our evil plans. That sucks. > > Zac > > On Sep 8, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Zaccariah Bowling wrote: > > > Just have us mono contributors take over the list. We could use it as > > part of our plans of world domination where we can control the content > > and lightly sway and shape the base over to getting everyone over to > > running their CLI code on Linux over time. Muhaha.. (I'm just upset > > because my interview at Microsoft didn't go as well as I hoped on > > Friday) > > > > Anyways, I didn't know you followed the list too Sebastion? That's > > awesome I know Miguel and Kangaroo follow too. > > > > Zac > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Sébastien Lorion wrote: > > > >> Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created > >> http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can simply > >> join the group. > >> > >> Sébastien > >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ... > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Greg > >>> > >>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as > >>>> this > >>> list > >>>> has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can > >>>> remember, > >>> no > >>>> flame wars or such childish things. > >>>> > >>>> Sébastien > >>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett < > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums > >>>>>> and other discussion mediums. > >>>>> > >>>>> Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there > >>>>> instead of this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or > >>>>> whatever? > >>> DevelopMentor > >>>>> could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval. > >>>>> > >>>>> Lack of exit strategy... painful every time. > >>>>> > >>>>> === > >>>>> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com > >>>>> > >>>>> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > >>>>> http://discuss.develop.com > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> === > >>>> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com > >>>> > >>>>
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
It looks like we're moving to Google Groups (unless the offer(s) to move the lists work out), but for those of you would like to continue with a normal email list albeit with more traffic, including VB.NET, C# and .NET general topics and the odd "flame war and such childish things" but mostly limited to Australian Fridays, I'm unofficially inviting you to join the .NET Australia mailing list: To subscribe, send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is mirrored in this Google group (mostly for archival purposes): http://groups.google.com/group/ausdotnetlist To reiterate, this is NOT a replacement to these advanced low volume lists, but there are MVPs on the Australian list so you do get useful responses to advanced queries. Regards, Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) (Resent: I sent this to all three lists at once and it seems to have been dropped.) On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created > http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can simply join the > group. > > Sébastien > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ... >> >> Cheers, >> >> Greg >> >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as this >> list >> > has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can remember, >> no >> > flame wars or such childish things. >> > >> > Sébastien >> > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> > >> >> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums >> >> > and other discussion mediums. >> >> >> >> Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there instead of >> >> this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or whatever? >> DevelopMentor >> >> could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval. >> >> >> >> Lack of exit strategy... painful every time. === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
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It looks like we're moving to Google Groups (unless the offer(s) to move the lists work out), but for those of you would like to continue with a normal email list albeit with more traffic, including VB.NET, C# and .NET general topics and the odd "flame war and such childish things" but mostly limited to Australian Fridays, I'm unofficially inviting you to join the .NET Australia mailing list: To subscribe, send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is mirrored in this Google group (mostly for archival purposes): http://groups.google.com/group/ausdotnetlist To reiterate, this is NOT a replacement to these advanced low volume lists, but there are MVPs on the Australian list so you do get useful responses to advanced queries. Regards, Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created > http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can simply join the > group. > > Sébastien > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ... >> >> Cheers, >> >> Greg >> >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as this >> list >> > has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can remember, >> no >> > flame wars or such childish things. >> > >> > Sébastien >> > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> > >> >> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums >> >> > and other discussion mediums. >> >> >> >> Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there instead of >> >> this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or whatever? >> DevelopMentor >> >> could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval. >> >> >> >> Lack of exit strategy... painful every time. === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
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I fear you're correct. Not 2 minutes ago the WinTech OT group, hosted on Google groups, was informed about the exciting fact that Pam Anderson's rack just doesn't quit. I don't know how I could make it through a day thinking of threads and mutexes without that thought to comfort me. Do not archive dg -Original Message- From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pardee, Roy Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 2:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ Hah--thanks for the laugh. Not for nothing, but I suspect/fear that one big reason we've had such a high signal/noise ratio on here is the relative obscurity of the list. I love google groups (and will join the new one, as well as Efran's) but won't be surprised if our bright stars are diluted in fairly short order. But maybe I'm just an elitist bastard... ;-) === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
Hah--thanks for the laugh. Not for nothing, but I suspect/fear that one big reason we've had such a high signal/noise ratio on here is the relative obscurity of the list. I love google groups (and will join the new one, as well as Efran's) but won't be surprised if our bright stars are diluted in fairly short order. But maybe I'm just an elitist bastard... ;-) -Original Message- From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zaccariah Bowling Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ Errr woops. That was supposed to be a directly reply. Used to mailman type list servers allowing me to reply directly. Now everyone knows our evil plans. That sucks. Zac On Sep 8, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Zaccariah Bowling wrote: > Just have us mono contributors take over the list. We could use it as > part of our plans of world domination where we can control the content > and lightly sway and shape the base over to getting everyone over to > running their CLI code on Linux over time. Muhaha.. (I'm just upset > because my interview at Microsoft didn't go as well as I hoped on > Friday) > > Anyways, I didn't know you followed the list too Sebastion? That's > awesome I know Miguel and Kangaroo follow too. > > Zac > > > On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Sébastien Lorion wrote: > >> Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created >> http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can simply >> join the group. >> >> Sébastien >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ... >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as >>>> this >>> list >>>> has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can >>>> remember, >>> no >>>> flame wars or such childish things. >>>> >>>> Sébastien >>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett < >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums >>>>>> and other discussion mediums. >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there >>>>> instead of this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or >>>>> whatever? >>> DevelopMentor >>>>> could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval. >>>>> >>>>> Lack of exit strategy... painful every time. >>>>> >>>>> === >>>>> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com >>>>> >>>>> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at >>>>> http://discuss.develop.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> === >>>> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com >>>> >>>> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at >>> http://discuss.develop.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought >>> without accepting it. >>> >>> === >>> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com >>> >>> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at >>> http://discuss.develop.com >>> >> >> === >> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com >> >> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at >> http://discuss.develop.com > === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
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Errr woops. That was supposed to be a directly reply. Used to mailman type list servers allowing me to reply directly. Now everyone knows our evil plans. That sucks. Zac On Sep 8, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Zaccariah Bowling wrote: Just have us mono contributors take over the list. We could use it as part of our plans of world domination where we can control the content and lightly sway and shape the base over to getting everyone over to running their CLI code on Linux over time. Muhaha.. (I'm just upset because my interview at Microsoft didn't go as well as I hoped on Friday) Anyways, I didn't know you followed the list too Sebastion? That's awesome I know Miguel and Kangaroo follow too. Zac On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Sébastien Lorion wrote: Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can simply join the group. Sébastien On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ... Cheers, Greg On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as this list has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can remember, no flame wars or such childish things. Sébastien On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums and other discussion mediums. Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there instead of this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or whatever? DevelopMentor could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval. Lack of exit strategy... painful every time. === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com -- It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
Just have us mono contributors take over the list. We could use it as part of our plans of world domination where we can control the content and lightly sway and shape the base over to getting everyone over to running their CLI code on Linux over time. Muhaha.. (I'm just upset because my interview at Microsoft didn't go as well as I hoped on Friday) Anyways, I didn't know you followed the list too Sebastion? That's awesome I know Miguel and Kangaroo follow too. Zac On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Sébastien Lorion wrote: Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can simply join the group. Sébastien On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ... Cheers, Greg On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as this list has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can remember, no flame wars or such childish things. Sébastien On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums and other discussion mediums. Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there instead of this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or whatever? DevelopMentor could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval. Lack of exit strategy... painful every time. === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com -- It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can simply join the group. Sébastien On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ... > > Cheers, > > Greg > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as this > list > > has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can remember, > no > > flame wars or such childish things. > > > > Sébastien > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums > >> > and other discussion mediums. > >> > >> Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there instead of > >> this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or whatever? > DevelopMentor > >> could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval. > >> > >> Lack of exit strategy... painful every time. > >> > >> === > >> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com > >> > >> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > >> http://discuss.develop.com > >> > > > > === > > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com > > > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > http://discuss.develop.com > > > > > > -- > It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought > without accepting it. > > === > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > http://discuss.develop.com > === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
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Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ... Cheers, Greg On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as this list > has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can remember, no > flame wars or such childish things. > > Sébastien > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> > the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums >> > and other discussion mediums. >> >> Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there instead of >> this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or whatever? DevelopMentor >> could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval. >> >> Lack of exit strategy... painful every time. >> >> === >> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com >> >> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at >> http://discuss.develop.com >> > > === > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com > -- It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
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I agree with google groups.Yahoogroups gets spammed way to much. And I agree there are some heavy hitters on this site. Their opinion is [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:15:53 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ> To: [email protected]> > I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as this list> has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can remember, no> flame wars or such childish things.> > Sébastien> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> > > On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > wrote:> >> > > the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums> > > and other discussion mediums.> >> > Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there instead of> > this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or whatever? DevelopMentor> > could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval.> >> > Lack of exit strategy... painful every time.> >> > ===> > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com> >> > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at> > http://discuss.develop.com> >> > ===> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com> > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com _ Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/ === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
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I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as this list has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can remember, no flame wars or such childish things. Sébastien On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums > > and other discussion mediums. > > Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there instead of > this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or whatever? DevelopMentor > could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval. > > Lack of exit strategy... painful every time. > > === > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > http://discuss.develop.com > === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
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Yes, I can't agree more. I've subscribed for a very long time now and I'm sad to see it go. It will be more difficult now to find something similar. I have been very grateful for this list. Thanks, Mike On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Zaccariah Bowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Yes, this list very focused and one of the best kept secrets on the > internets. It has a great deal of Microsoft employees following it. It truly > is an "advanced" listed. The topics that come up on here are only of the > most complicated nature and are not those that be solved with a simple > google or reading the MSDN docs a little closer. It's going to be sad to see > it go. > > Zac > > > On Sep 8, 2008, at 8:52 AM, HK Ball wrote: > > ... here's one plea for continuance ... while the other mediums are >> useful, they are often cluttered and unfocused ... an email mailing list >> allows time to reflect and respond to thoughts from people you grow to know >> and trust ... >> >> ... anyway, I am grateful for this very valuable list ... >> >> hk >> >> -Original Message----- >> >>> From: Ryan Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Sep 8, 2008 9:03 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ >>> >>> Same here, but lists that uses email to distribute, that's one of the >>> main reasons asp.net it not working for me. >>> >>> // Ryan >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Geoff Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> That's a shame! I've been an avid lurker on this list (via various >>>> email >>>> addresses) for years. I'm gonna miss it. >>>> >>>> So I'll ask the obvious question: Before simply re-creating this list on >>>> Google or Yahoo, where are good high signal-to-noise discussions taking >>>> place on advanced .NET topics? Can anyone recommend any good forums or >>>> groups that already exist? >>>> >>>> There's a very active alt.net discussion group, but it's much more >>>> focused >>>> on alt.net techniques than pure .NET. And there's Win Tech Off Topic, >>>> which >>>> has some good .NET folks on it but is (naturally enough) for subjects >>>> generally considered off-topic elsewhere. >>>> >>>> Anyone got any good suggestions? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Geoff >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Richard Blewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all >>>>> >>>>> We are currently undertaking an infrastructure review at DevelopMentor >>>>> and >>>>> have realised that apart from this one list the listserv is not really >>>>> used >>>>> any more. Unfortunately we cannot really justify maintaining the server >>>>> for >>>>> this one list and so we have decided to retire the listserv. >>>>> >>>>> I created this list as a moderated list six and a half years ago and so >>>>> feel >>>>> a bit sad to see its passing, but the world has moved on from mail >>>>> reflectors to blogs, web forums and other discussion mediums. >>>>> >>>>> We will be taking the server offline on the 30th September so you have >>>>> a >>>>> bit >>>>> of time to get anything you need from the archives >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your involvement over the last few years >>>>> >>>>> Richard Blewett >>>>> CTO >>>>> DevelopMentor >>>>> >>>>> === >>>>> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com >>>>> >>>>> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at >>>>> http://discuss.develop.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> === >>>> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com >>>> >>>> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at >>>> http://discuss.develop.com >>>> >>>> >>> === >>> This list is hosted by DevelopMentorÂ(R) http://www.develop.com >>> >>> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at >>> http://discuss.develop.com >>> >> >> === >> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com >> >> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at >> http://discuss.develop.com >> > > === > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > http://discuss.develop.com > === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
Yes, this list very focused and one of the best kept secrets on the internets. It has a great deal of Microsoft employees following it. It truly is an "advanced" listed. The topics that come up on here are only of the most complicated nature and are not those that be solved with a simple google or reading the MSDN docs a little closer. It's going to be sad to see it go. Zac On Sep 8, 2008, at 8:52 AM, HK Ball wrote: ... here's one plea for continuance ... while the other mediums are useful, they are often cluttered and unfocused ... an email mailing list allows time to reflect and respond to thoughts from people you grow to know and trust ... ... anyway, I am grateful for this very valuable list ... hk -Original Message- From: Ryan Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sep 8, 2008 9:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ Same here, but lists that uses email to distribute, that's one of the main reasons asp.net it not working for me. // Ryan On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Geoff Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi, That's a shame! I've been an avid lurker on this list (via various email addresses) for years. I'm gonna miss it. So I'll ask the obvious question: Before simply re-creating this list on Google or Yahoo, where are good high signal-to-noise discussions taking place on advanced .NET topics? Can anyone recommend any good forums or groups that already exist? There's a very active alt.net discussion group, but it's much more focused on alt.net techniques than pure .NET. And there's Win Tech Off Topic, which has some good .NET folks on it but is (naturally enough) for subjects generally considered off-topic elsewhere. Anyone got any good suggestions? Cheers, Geoff On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Richard Blewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >wrote: Hi all We are currently undertaking an infrastructure review at DevelopMentor and have realised that apart from this one list the listserv is not really used any more. Unfortunately we cannot really justify maintaining the server for this one list and so we have decided to retire the listserv. I created this list as a moderated list six and a half years ago and so feel a bit sad to see its passing, but the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums and other discussion mediums. We will be taking the server offline on the 30th September so you have a bit of time to get anything you need from the archives Thanks for your involvement over the last few years Richard Blewett CTO DevelopMentor === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
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... here's one plea for continuance ... while the other mediums are useful, they are often cluttered and unfocused ... an email mailing list allows time to reflect and respond to thoughts from people you grow to know and trust ... ... anyway, I am grateful for this very valuable list ... hk -Original Message- >From: Ryan Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sep 8, 2008 9:03 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > >Same here, but lists that uses email to distribute, that's one of the >main reasons asp.net it not working for me. > >// Ryan > >On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Geoff Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> That's a shame! I've been an avid lurker on this list (via various email >> addresses) for years. I'm gonna miss it. >> >> So I'll ask the obvious question: Before simply re-creating this list on >> Google or Yahoo, where are good high signal-to-noise discussions taking >> place on advanced .NET topics? Can anyone recommend any good forums or >> groups that already exist? >> >> There's a very active alt.net discussion group, but it's much more focused >> on alt.net techniques than pure .NET. And there's Win Tech Off Topic, which >> has some good .NET folks on it but is (naturally enough) for subjects >> generally considered off-topic elsewhere. >> >> Anyone got any good suggestions? >> >> Cheers, >> >>Geoff >> >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Richard Blewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> We are currently undertaking an infrastructure review at DevelopMentor and >>> have realised that apart from this one list the listserv is not really used >>> any more. Unfortunately we cannot really justify maintaining the server for >>> this one list and so we have decided to retire the listserv. >>> >>> I created this list as a moderated list six and a half years ago and so >>> feel >>> a bit sad to see its passing, but the world has moved on from mail >>> reflectors to blogs, web forums and other discussion mediums. >>> >>> We will be taking the server offline on the 30th September so you have a >>> bit >>> of time to get anything you need from the archives >>> >>> Thanks for your involvement over the last few years >>> >>> Richard Blewett >>> CTO >>> DevelopMentor >>> >>> === >>> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com >>> >>> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at >>> http://discuss.develop.com >>> >> >> === >> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com >> >> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com >> > >=== >This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com > >View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor� http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
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Same here, but lists that uses email to distribute, that's one of the main reasons asp.net it not working for me. // Ryan On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Geoff Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > That's a shame! I've been an avid lurker on this list (via various email > addresses) for years. I'm gonna miss it. > > So I'll ask the obvious question: Before simply re-creating this list on > Google or Yahoo, where are good high signal-to-noise discussions taking > place on advanced .NET topics? Can anyone recommend any good forums or > groups that already exist? > > There's a very active alt.net discussion group, but it's much more focused > on alt.net techniques than pure .NET. And there's Win Tech Off Topic, which > has some good .NET folks on it but is (naturally enough) for subjects > generally considered off-topic elsewhere. > > Anyone got any good suggestions? > > Cheers, > >Geoff > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Richard Blewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> We are currently undertaking an infrastructure review at DevelopMentor and >> have realised that apart from this one list the listserv is not really used >> any more. Unfortunately we cannot really justify maintaining the server for >> this one list and so we have decided to retire the listserv. >> >> I created this list as a moderated list six and a half years ago and so >> feel >> a bit sad to see its passing, but the world has moved on from mail >> reflectors to blogs, web forums and other discussion mediums. >> >> We will be taking the server offline on the 30th September so you have a >> bit >> of time to get anything you need from the archives >> >> Thanks for your involvement over the last few years >> >> Richard Blewett >> CTO >> DevelopMentor >> >> === >> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com >> >> View archives and manage your subscription(s) at >> http://discuss.develop.com >> > > === > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com > === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
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On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:43:04 +0100, Geoff Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's a very active alt.net discussion group, but it's much > more focused on alt.net techniques than pure .NET. And there's > Win Tech Off Topic, which has some good .NET folks on it but > is (naturally enough) for subjects generally considered > off-topic elsewhere. The official Microsoft newsgroups can be good. When it's bad it's very bad, but the presence of MVPs and their kind ups the average alot. E.g. http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
Hi, That's a shame! I've been an avid lurker on this list (via various email addresses) for years. I'm gonna miss it. So I'll ask the obvious question: Before simply re-creating this list on Google or Yahoo, where are good high signal-to-noise discussions taking place on advanced .NET topics? Can anyone recommend any good forums or groups that already exist? There's a very active alt.net discussion group, but it's much more focused on alt.net techniques than pure .NET. And there's Win Tech Off Topic, which has some good .NET folks on it but is (naturally enough) for subjects generally considered off-topic elsewhere. Anyone got any good suggestions? Cheers, Geoff On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Richard Blewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hi all > > We are currently undertaking an infrastructure review at DevelopMentor and > have realised that apart from this one list the listserv is not really used > any more. Unfortunately we cannot really justify maintaining the server for > this one list and so we have decided to retire the listserv. > > I created this list as a moderated list six and a half years ago and so > feel > a bit sad to see its passing, but the world has moved on from mail > reflectors to blogs, web forums and other discussion mediums. > > We will be taking the server offline on the 30th September so you have a > bit > of time to get anything you need from the archives > > Thanks for your involvement over the last few years > > Richard Blewett > CTO > DevelopMentor > > === > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(R) http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > http://discuss.develop.com > === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums > and other discussion mediums. Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there instead of this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or whatever? DevelopMentor could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval. Lack of exit strategy... painful every time. === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
Have you thought about or considered creating a about 6 .zip files of the archive that could be downloaded? Since this is a text forum you would see a pretty good size reduction using this simple compression routine. Just a thought for those who might want to grab the entire archive for 'long term' access. John Warner > -Original Message- > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Richard Blewett > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ > > > Hi all > > We are currently undertaking an infrastructure review at > DevelopMentor and have realised that apart from this one list > the listserv is not really used any more. Unfortunately we > cannot really justify maintaining the server for this one > list and so we have decided to retire the listserv. > > I created this list as a moderated list six and a half years > ago and so feel a bit sad to see its passing, but the world > has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums and > other discussion mediums. > > We will be taking the server offline on the 30th September so > you have a bit of time to get anything you need from the archives > > Thanks for your involvement over the last few years > > Richard Blewett > CTO > DevelopMentor > > === > This list is hosted by DevelopMentorR http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > http://discuss.develop.com > === This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
