Re: There is no cabal

2008-04-28 Thread Andy Lester

I wasn't offered my own new
wiki-thread though, maybe I didn't ask the right person...


What do you mean offered my own new wiki-thread?  You don't get  
offered something on a wiki.  You go and start it yourself.



I realise that you had not intended to make this much of an issue  
out it, or
to trample on another (if aged) project.  As I see it, it's happened  
that
way, because of choices people-in-power have made as to how to react  
to
someone who disagrees with them.  And particularly to those people  
who are

outside of the current magic-circle.


What sort of power are you ascribing to these unnamed people-in- 
power?  There is no power.  There is no Perl Cabal who are allowed to  
do things on a wiki, and others who are not.  Anyone can edit anything  
on the wiki.  Even Elaine.  It is the very nature of open source.


xoa

--
Andy Lester = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = www.petdance.com = AIM:petdance






Re: There is no cabal

2008-04-28 Thread Richard Foley
On Monday 28 April 2008 18:41:00 Andy Lester wrote:
 
 There is no Perl Cabal
 
There usually is one, somewhere, if you look closely enough...

;-)

I think we're getting a bit off-topic though.  This thread was about Elaine's 
Timeline, and her right to continue her project as she sees fit, rather than 
someone else to decide on behalf of the community that her project should be 
arbitrarily side-lined.

-- 
Richard Foley
Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen

http://www.rfi.net/


Re: There is no cabal

2008-04-28 Thread Andy Lester


On Apr 28, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Richard Foley wrote:

I think we're getting a bit off-topic though.  This thread was about  
Elaine's
Timeline, and her right to continue her project as she sees fit,  
rather than
someone else to decide on behalf of the community that her project  
should be

arbitrarily side-lined.



Elaine has an absolute right to continue her project as she sees fit.

No one could stop her from continuing her project if they wanted to.

No one is advocating removing her page.

No one has decided that her project should be arbitrarily side-lined.   
If people choose to work on Elaine's project, then no one can stop  
them.  Who would be so foolish or mean-spirited as to even try?


Starting a new, complementary (or competing) project to an existing  
project is the very core of open source.


--
Andy Lester = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = www.petdance.com = AIM:petdance






Re: There is no cabal

2008-04-28 Thread Alan
 On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 06:49:16PM +0200, Richard Foley wrote:
 On Monday 28 April 2008 18:41:00 Andy Lester wrote:
 
  There is no Perl Cabal
 
 There usually is one, somewhere, if you look closely enough...


 Only one?

The question is whether the cabal is an array or a scalar.  Personally I
think it is a hash.  (Or involves hash...)


[JOKE] Re: There is no cabal

2008-04-28 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Monday 28 April 2008, Andy Lester wrote:
  I wasn't offered my own new
  wiki-thread though, maybe I didn't ask the right person...

 What do you mean offered my own new wiki-thread?  You don't get
 offered something on a wiki.  You go and start it yourself.

  I realise that you had not intended to make this much of an issue
  out it, or
  to trample on another (if aged) project.  As I see it, it's happened
  that
  way, because of choices people-in-power have made as to how to react
  to
  someone who disagrees with them.  And particularly to those people
  who are
  outside of the current magic-circle.

 What sort of power are you ascribing to these unnamed people-in-
 power?  There is no power.  There is no Perl Cabal who are allowed to
 do things on a wiki, and others who are not.  

Correction: there is no IGLU Cabal!

See:

http://www.hackers.org.il/mediawiki/index.php/The_mysterious_IGLU_Cabal

Enjoy! (IGLU is the Israeli Group of Linux Users)
Regards,

Shlomi Fish

(Sorry Andy! Could not resist.)

-
Shlomi Fish   http://www.shlomifish.org/
Why I Love Perl - http://xrl.us/bjn88

The bad thing about hardware is that it sometimes work and sometimes doesn't.
The good thing about software is that it's consistent: it always does not
work, and it always does not work in exactly the same way.


Re: There is no cabal

2008-04-28 Thread Peter Scott
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:41:00 -0500, Andy Lester wrote:
 What sort of power are you ascribing to these unnamed people-in- 
 power?  There is no power.  There is no Perl Cabal  [...]

Oh, I beg to differ:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030716002311/perlcabal.com/lwall.html

:-)

-- 
Peter Scott
http://www.perlmedic.com/
http://www.perldebugged.com/