Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

2019-08-22 Thread John Osmon
On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 04:11:05PM -0600, Chuck McCown wrote: > > So I will stick to coal, I feel we need to free up all that > sequestered carbon, and coal particulates encourage rainfall thus > irrigating the earth and cleansing the atmosphere all in one shot. Lately, I've been taking to

Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

2019-08-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
Since they put winter Bynes in near my house it’s actually gotten a lot windier, in fact every time they are spinning the wind is just gusting. > On Aug 22, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: > > I believe that mountain lions go downwind to stalk their prey. Is there any > chance that the

Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

2019-08-22 Thread Bill Prince
I am unschooled in this, but since windmills extract energy from wind, they would actually DECREASE wind locally. Might be pretty hard to measure though. bp On 8/22/2019 2:18 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: I believe that

Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

2019-08-22 Thread Robert Andrews
Downwind? That would carry their scent on the wind to the prey? On 08/22/2019 02:18 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: I believe that mountain lions go downwind to stalk their prey. Is there any chance that the increased wind caused by the windmills has led to an influx of mountain lions because

Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

2019-08-22 Thread Carl Peterson
I believe that mountain lions go downwind to stalk their prey. Is there any chance that the increased wind caused by the windmills has led to an influx of mountain lions because their prey is easier to stalk? Somebody should look into this. On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 4:08 PM Carl Peterson wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Security presentation

2019-08-22 Thread Jay Weekley
Something tried to install or update when I clicked on the attachment. Robert Andrews wrote: OMG I just opened that without even checking it! I'm probably infected now! On 08/22/2019 12:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Sent from my iPhone -- *Jay Weekley* *Cyber Broadband * ---

Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

2019-08-22 Thread Carl Peterson
Thats completely bogus. Windmills don't attract cats. The wind from the windmills blows away the smell of predators which causes the mice and birds to come out. Its the mice and birds that attract the cats. On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 4:04 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Well I hear that windmills

Re: [AFMUG] AGM batteries

2019-08-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Same as a flooded cell. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2019, at 2:51 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: > > We don't normally use AGM batteries, preferring the higher density of liquid. > So what do people set for float voltage for a 12V AGM battery? > > Thanks, >Robert > > -- > AF mailing

Re: [AFMUG] Security presentation

2019-08-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Bwahhh Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2019, at 2:45 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: > > OMG I just opened that without even checking it! I'm probably infected now! > > On 08/22/2019 12:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>> >>>Sent from my iPhone >>> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

2019-08-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Well I hear that windmills attract cats. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > Based upon what I've read, the danger to birds is way, way overstated. > Probably at least an order of magnitude. Cats are far more dangerous to birds. > > > bp > > >> On

[AFMUG] AGM batteries

2019-08-22 Thread Robert Andrews
We don't normally use AGM batteries, preferring the higher density of liquid. So what do people set for float voltage for a 12V AGM battery? Thanks, Robert -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Security presentation

2019-08-22 Thread Robert Andrews
OMG I just opened that without even checking it! I'm probably infected now! On 08/22/2019 12:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] FCC Proposes Fines Against WISPs and Issues Warning to Industry

2019-08-22 Thread Seth Mattinen
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-proposes-fines-against-wisps-and-issues-warning-industry-0 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Security presentation

2019-08-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
All that sounds good except IMHO the assumption that Linux and Mac are immune and Microsoft is the weak link. I think that's like avoiding brown dogs because you were bit by a brown dog. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 2:54 PM To: af@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

2019-08-22 Thread Bill Prince
Based upon what I've read, the danger to birds is way, way overstated. Probably at least an order of magnitude. Cats are far more dangerous to birds. bp On 8/22/2019 1:10 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: You are diving down on a mouse that was disturbed by the tip vortex off a 300mph passing

Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

2019-08-22 Thread Robert Andrews
You are diving down on a mouse that was disturbed by the tip vortex off a 300mph passing blade tip and swap... 300mph _next_ blade tip knocks you into oblivion... On 08/22/2019 01:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Well, that explains the bats, but what about the raptors? Do they just die from

Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

2019-08-22 Thread Chuck McCown
They try to mate with the blades... Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > Well, that explains the bats, but what about the raptors? Do they just die > from disgust because they think it's an eyesore? > >> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 6:53 PM Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

2019-08-22 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, that explains the bats, but what about the raptors? Do they just die from disgust because they think it's an eyesore? On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 6:53 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > There is a low pressure zone on the lee side of the blade that apparently > is > dramatic enough of a pressure change

Re: [AFMUG] Security presentation

2019-08-22 Thread Jaime Solorza
Thanks On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 1:55 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] Security presentation

2019-08-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Sent from my iPhone Securitybreachclean.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Used 450i 5ghz AP's?

2019-08-22 Thread Tyson Burris
I completely agree with your logic Sam. That is exactly what we are doing as well. Very happy with the performance and results even on lower bands. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 Daytime # 317-738-0320 Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540

Re: [AFMUG] Used 450i 5ghz AP's?

2019-08-22 Thread Sam Lambie
Wide band capabilities, better CPU. We will be upgrading all of the subscriber modules to 450B SMs and then we will have the capability of using the 51 and 52 band. On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 11:51 AM Sean Heskett wrote: > Out of curiosity Sam why do you need 450i instead of just 450 APs? > > -Sean

Re: [AFMUG] Used 450i 5ghz AP's?

2019-08-22 Thread Sean Heskett
Out of curiosity Sam why do you need 450i instead of just 450 APs? -Sean On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 9:12 AM Sam Lambie wrote: > Bummer. Anyone else out there have some? Bueller? Bueller? > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 2:51 PM Gino A. Villarini > wrote: > >> Just checked, they are old 450, not i >>

Re: [AFMUG] Used 450i 5ghz AP's?

2019-08-22 Thread Sam Lambie
Bummer. Anyone else out there have some? Bueller? Bueller? On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 2:51 PM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Just checked, they are old 450, not i > > > > *From: *AF on behalf of Sam Lambie < > samtaos...@gmail.com> > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Date: *Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-22 Thread dave via AF
I like cnmaestro for these deployments because once you work out any provisioning issues you can hand over the keys to the project or offer a MSP contract to help with management or program changes they need. On 8/22/19 8:29 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I wonder what the Xirrus acquisition will

Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
I wonder what the Xirrus acquisition will mean. Is the focus on the development team, cloud management, or the WiFi hardware? From: AF On Behalf Of dave via AF Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 8:06 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: dave Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus" Paul, Have a look at

Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-22 Thread dave via AF
Paul,  Have a look at the E700/E500 outdoor APs by Cambium networks. I have done 2 large campus projects and now doing our first Campground. Easy to mesh and configure and performance hits the nail. On 8/21/19 5:44 PM, Paul McCall wrote: We have a small agriculture “campus” where we need

Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-22 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
Paul, Give us a call, we have all of the solutions, including the high $$ ones if you want it. Really depends on what they expect. Expectations are everything. We have deployed systems where a VOIP phone can roam without issues, but again, they are different than most. [LTI-Full_175px]

[AFMUG] Register to attend the Cambium Networks Open House at WISPAPALOOZA

2019-08-22 Thread Ray Savich via AF
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Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-22 Thread Daniel White
The folks at DoubleRadius or Streakwave should be able to help.  Many of the resellers have certified engineers as well. photograph Daniel White Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations phone: +1 (702) 470-2766 direct:+1 (702) 470-2770 Paul McCall wrote on 8/22/19 05:29: Daniel,

Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-22 Thread Paul McCall
Daniel, Do you have a good source for me to talk to on design for this? Not sometime we do very often and I want to make sure we cover all the dynamics of how it gets setup. Paul From: AF On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:32 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users