Re: [AFMUG] Running MPLS

Yeah, I still have a 7301 running BGP at one edge, but only because I haven’t had time to replace it, the replacement has been sitting on the shelf for like a year. Routers can be replaced in winter. Microwave radios on towers, not so much. From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Running MPLS

*nods* I was pretty sure you didn't. I thought you were a Cisco edge guy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Running MPLS

I’m not saying I’m running full routes on a CCR. Just find the argument kind of amusing, it’s like the Coyote in the cartoon walking on air off the edge of the cliff until someone tells him he can’t do that and then he falls. From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, September

Re: [AFMUG] Running MPLS

The problem is that I explain the problem and the people that disagree... still don't believe me. I just wasted my time, so I curtail my details the next time. This timing is a few years old... so it's going to be worse now. It's also why I have a larger range of time. I withdrew a route

[AFMUG] OT p<=.05 was an opinion

Really good article in Scientific American this month. If you like stats... (p<=.05 is not founded in science)-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

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Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes? From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 6:53 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Running MPLS I do have access to a CCR doing full table BGP. It's a disaster. You don't need a

Re: [AFMUG] Running MPLS

I do have access to a CCR doing full table BGP. It's a disaster. You don't need a $50k Juniper. You just need a $500 server with some 10G cards. By traffic flows, I mean Netflow, IPfix, etc. No, they don't. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet

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Mike, Unless you run CCR for your bgp routers, you can't say they don't work. We've been running bgp on our network for 3+ years with CCR's and it works. Convergence time is slower than a $50k Juniper sure but it doesn't affect us badly. Traffic flows smoothly and the only time it really takes

Re: [AFMUG] Running MPLS

Anyone that says CCRs work fine with full routes doesn't know what they're talking about. ;-) Always take full tables so you have proper information for your traffic flows, uRPF, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

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for now we take full bgp tables from each, and default route. then ospf distributes default if connected. We run rb1100ahx2 at all sites but the edges. those are ccr1072, i dont care what anybody says, theyve been handling the tables just fine for over a year even with the one core pegged when

Re: [AFMUG] Running MPLS

On 9/24/19 1:21 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: Dont bother importing all the 760k routes learned from your upstream providers into your core.  Having that many routes is only going to impact your egress traffic to the Internet, which is probably a drop in the bucket compared to your ingress

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would need to know which upstream since theyre in separate locations, not the same router. i figere there is prefix aggregation on the internal side. right now we do just present default via ospf On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 3:22 PM Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > Dont bother importing all the 760k

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Dont bother importing all the 760k routes learned from your upstream providers into your core. Having that many routes is only going to impact your egress traffic to the Internet, which is probably a drop in the bucket compared to your ingress traffic loads (Netflix, CDNs, etc). Just

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so, say I wanted to bring bgp from geographically separate providers into the middle of the network and not kill OSPF, use static routes, or have to put in beefy routers at every hop? On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 2:24 PM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Easier to do L2 overlay via VPLS > > > > *Gino* >

Re: [AFMUG] Running MPLS

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Re: [AFMUG] Indiana Public Utilities Commission

Everybody in my family that wants a landline is going to the verizon solution. Frontier literally tries to get 80 year olds outside in the demarc test jack with an analog phone On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 12:23 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Verizon has a service called Wireless Home Phone, I think it used

Re: [AFMUG] Running MPLS

anybody care to give examples of benefits? On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 12:41 PM Paul McCall wrote: > Thanks Dennis! > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Dennis Burgess via AF > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:27 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Cc:* Dennis Burgess > *Subject:*

Re: [AFMUG] DNS Suffix

MS, if it works, fix it... On 09/24/2019 10:48 AM, Paul McCall wrote: Probably because….. Microsoft LOL It worked fine before … therefor it must be /“improved”/ *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * dmmoffett *Sent:* Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:05 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

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Probably because….. Microsoft LOL It worked fine before … therefor it must be “improved” From: AF On Behalf Of dmmoffett Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DNS Suffix I wonder why the option is still there in the normal

Re: [AFMUG] Running MPLS

Thanks Dennis! From: AF On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess via AF Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:27 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Dennis Burgess Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Running MPLS We have many customers running MPLS on their networks, it really depends on your network design. But

Re: [AFMUG] Running MPLS

That’s encouraging. Just looking for any real world things to avoid, best practices etc. Paul From: AF On Behalf Of Adair Winter Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:25 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Running MPLS We run 6k+ subs on mikrotik mpls/vpls. What do

Re: [AFMUG] Indiana Public Utilities Commission

Verizon has a service called Wireless Home Phone, I think it used to be called Home Phone Connect. Basically a cellular modem, use just like a VoIP ATA except it doesn't need broadband. Can port the landline number. Most of the people I've run into who have it are older, and some seem to think

Re: [AFMUG] Indiana Public Utilities Commission

As stated by Chuck, Frontier is the problem. Huge issues with them in NY as well. One thing that may help a bit is having the county 911 director call on your behalf. Since there is no jail time for execs in the company when things like this are failed to be acted on, nothing gets done. Put one