Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

Seaweed tastes as bad as it smells But I've been using the CnPilot e series more. I have two e510, I'm digging them and pushing them to commercial customers. They have a wall one that fits in a switch box I think would be cool for residential use On Wed, Aug 19, 2020, 9:52 PM Ken Hohhof wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

I remember everyone was saying how delicious seaweed snacks were, that even their kids loved them, so I bought some. Yuck! They tasted (and smelled) like dried seaweed. What did I expect? From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 9:29 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

To me they are similar to pickled red cabbage. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > To be honest, I’m not sure I’ve ever tried a beet (are they all pickled?) I > look at them and just know I’ll hate them. > > On the other hand, I’ll eat sweet red

Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

To be honest, I’m not sure I’ve ever tried a beet (are they all pickled?) I look at them and just know I’ll hate them. On the other hand, I’ll eat sweet red cabbage, and things the rest of my family just know they hate, like lima beans and eggplant. Actually I don’t eat them because did I

Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

Does that also help prevent snakes? (I seem to remember a thread about snakes) From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:42 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit Hand holes fill with muddy water. You should

Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

Beets, pickled or otherwise are a go to snack for me. I have several cans in the fridge right now. Beets, pork n beans, Vienna sausages. Basic staples of life. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > No and yes. > > I still remember the dorm

Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

Chickpea, not gonna ask Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > No and yes. > > I still remember the dorm cafeteria at college and they would have beans and > beets on the same day and you would say beans but they would pretend to hear > beets and put a

Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

Hand holes fill with muddy water. You should foam them when you are done to prevent this. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > Is it normal for the duct to be full of mud? That seems ungood. I’m also > assuming the fiber in that duct is carrying

Re: [AFMUG] GIS VetroMap Contract Help wanted

Is this something you are doing to document your osp? Cost? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > >  > I need someone with some time this month and next, to help my team correctly > populate VetroMap for our fiber plant. > > Let me know. > -- > AF

Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

Probably a lot less expensive than Prosoft Modbus products On Wed, Aug 19, 2020, 5:46 PM Matt Corcoran wrote: > Not quite related, but I just found out that Microtik(linux) has built in > drivers for common Arduino serial chips. I setup an Arduino to monitor > 4 different voltages at our

Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

typically how you talk to solar charge controllers... On 8/19/20 5:40 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: Cool - it’s still around: https://modbus.org/docs/PI_MBUS_300.pdf ASCII is easy to build, RTU a little tougher due to the timing requirements. This brings back some memories…  probably happily

Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

Cool - it’s still around: https://modbus.org/docs/PI_MBUS_300.pdf ASCII is easy to build, RTU a little tougher due to the timing requirements. This brings back some memories… probably happily forgotten. The protocol was originally designed for

Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

Not quite related, but I just found out that Microtik(linux) has built in drivers for common Arduino serial chips. I setup an Arduino to monitor 4 different voltages at our solar site. Our NMS just SSHs to the microtik(special login) to pull the average voltages and graph them.I was

Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

No and yes. I still remember the dorm cafeteria at college and they would have beans and beets on the same day and you would say beans but they would pretend to hear beets and put a scoop of the horrible things on your tray. So we learned to say “red” or “green” instead. College kids

Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

Is it normal for the duct to be full of mud? That seems ungood. I’m also assuming the fiber in that duct is carrying traffic and it would be very bad to break it and then not be able to replace it. From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 5:56 PM To:

[AFMUG] GIS VetroMap Contract Help wanted

I need someone with some time this month and next, to help my team correctly populate VetroMap for our fiber plant. Let me know. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

You still need a way to get air in the duct. Either this: https://www.gmptools.com/innerduct-pressurization-test-kit/ or this https://www.gmptools.com/line-blowing/ to attach to the

Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

Something like this: https://www.gmptools.com/cable-overblowing-junction-box/ Put the real cable in the one side and block the other port or use it for water. Hum… water going backwards through the compressor isn’t a great idea.

Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

You might get away with sealing it up really good where the fiber exits and then making a hole in the side of the duct small enough for the tip of an air blower. Not sure how much air you will get this way but easy to try. Use mastic and then tape to seal it. You might be able to couple a

Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

I have a clamp thing that clamps over the duct and cable and seals it all up. It has an air port coming in from the side. And I use a 375 CFM 150 psi compressor. I am guessing you could slip a copper tube down the duct and tape the crap out of everything with black vinyl tape. Just use as

Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

I only eat the pickled beets and garbanzo beans. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:39 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi Calix is affordable, Calix is expensive. Both true. Calix has a lot of options so there's a wide range of

Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

Calix is affordable, Calix is expensive.  Both true. Calix has a lot of options so there's a wide range of possible pricing.  If you got a quote for the whole salad bar then it's not going to look good. On 8/19/2020 5:36 PM, Josh Baird wrote: Really?  That is upsetting.  Calix's up-front

Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

Really? That is upsetting. Calix's up-front cost for their full cloud based solution isn't super cheap. On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 4:24 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Calix is MUCH cheaper to get into than Plume, with lower minimums. They > (Calix) were also

Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

How do you seal it up with the existing fiber in there to be able to blow it? How much PSI do you use? Will a portable air compressor be enough? Other end of the conduit is in a building, so I can only blow the mud 1 way :) On 8/19/2020 4:30 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Use compressed air to

Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

Maybe you weren't the only one that needed to terminate an employee today? On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 4:29 PM wrote: > But you said you were busy... > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:14 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

Use compressed air to blow water through it. Once you get it flushed your fish tape might go. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:19 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit Anybody have secrets for locating mud filled

Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

But you said you were busy... From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:14 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy Sometimes, some guys, its just better to have a workplace accident and be done with it On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 1:26 PM Robert

Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

Can you vacuum a shopping bag with a tiny wire attached? All the best, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 209.480.3122 Find us on peeringdb! https://www.peeringdb.com/net/20086 On Wed, Aug 19, 2020, 2:21 PM Nate Burke wrote: > Anybody have secrets for locating mud filled conduit? Trying to

[AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

Anybody have secrets for locating mud filled conduit? Trying to locate a 1" poly with a non-toneable fiber installed in it. No trace wire installed. Conduit is full of Mud, and at the bottom of a handhole that is also filled with Mud. Conduit goes from handhole under a parking lot, so

Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

Sometimes, some guys, its just better to have a workplace accident and be done with it On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 1:26 PM Robert wrote: > One of the reasons I have always liked companies that start all newbies > with a trusted(by you) mentor. That mentor can usually make the call > within days of

Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

RS-485 is current loop rather than voltage. Easily converted to RS-232 and back. Modbus is a communication protocol using formatted text strings. It’s pretty simple to read and write programatically.I have written a few BASIC programs to do so (I date myself). Any programming language

Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

It is a way to get in and set parameters and options, like remote start or remote loading. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 1:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection Just curious what kind of data you need for an air

Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

Calix is MUCH cheaper to get into than Plume, with lower minimums. They (Calix) were also running a WISP special earlier this year, I'm unsure if it is still going on, but the upfront pricing was much more attractive. On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 8:27 PM TJ Trout wrote: > what's the per sub cost

Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

Ive done alot with Modbus on arduino products interfacing with anything that speaks modbus. I have a server I que or add each thing I want to monitor or review. Temps, Humidity power levels or presence of are the main ones. On 8/19/20 11:26 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: On one of my large

Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

Just curious what kind of data you need for an air compressor? On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:51 AM TJ Trout wrote: > apc uses rj10's for usb.. > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 9:46 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> Apparently modbus is a data protocol, not a physical layer standard, but >> yes it could go

Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

One of the reasons I have always liked companies that start all newbies with a trusted(by you) mentor.  That mentor can usually make the call within days of the hiring of the value of the newbie.  One week and one month review between you and the mentor.   Your choice on disclosure of the

Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

It would have been cheaper to have paid him to sit on the side of the street for the rest of the day. And my wife just told me that he has not even been with us 30 days yet. I got a creepy feeling about him from the get – go. Was way too familiar with me for my liking. (I think I will adopt

Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

On 8/19/20 10:53 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: You're not leaving him stranded in the desert, just telling him what time the ride is.  My only question would be whether you are required to pay him for the time he's just sitting there.  His time isn't really his own at that point. As an optics

Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

He had a confrontation with his coworkers that had to be handled on the spot. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 11:53 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy You're not leaving him stranded in the desert, just telling him what time the ride is. My only

Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

We sprung a guy loose from another job site to give him a ride. And our supervisor found out from his mom who is an HR professional at a hospital that we do legally have to return him to where his job day started. If he had not called me personally after getting fired and started trash

Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

Are you still responsible for his safety? What if he "trips" on something and is "injured"? ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: My supervisor fired a problem employee at a construction site this morning. We have had lots of problems with this guy and I was glad to see him go. We hauled him to the job

Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

You're not leaving him stranded in the desert, just telling him what time the ride is.  My only question would be whether you are required to pay him for the time he's just sitting there.  His time isn't really his own at that point. As an optics thing it won't play well.   Might have been

Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

I don’t know about the legal part of it. However, you may just want to send someone to make it all go away. Whether he deserves a ride or not, the trouble and stress from dealing with his complaining might not be worth the trade in time.My thought is to get the trouble making employees

Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

+1 Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2020, at 1:51 PM, Matt Hoppes > wrote: > > I don't know the law, but I would just order an Uber as a parting gesture. > >> On 8/19/20 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> My supervisor fired a problem employee at a construction site this morning. >> We

Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

You can't change the past, but what about fired... at the end of the day. All responsibilities and authorities are removed at the time of conflict. If they choose to leave on their own, great. If not, they're still getting paid and not fired through the end of your day. Probably costs less to

Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

I don't know the law, but I would just order an Uber as a parting gesture. On 8/19/20 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: My supervisor fired a problem employee at a construction site this morning.  We have had lots of problems with this guy and I was glad to see him go.  We hauled him to the job

[AFMUG] OT fired a guy

My supervisor fired a problem employee at a construction site this morning. We have had lots of problems with this guy and I was glad to see him go. We hauled him to the job site and now he wants someone to take him back to our office to get his vehicle. I cannot spare a person or vehicle at

Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

apc uses rj10's for usb.. On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 9:46 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Apparently modbus is a data protocol, not a physical layer standard, but > yes it could go over RS485. I don’t see how a simple cable could convert > from USB to RS485. I sure hope for $200 you are getting a dongle,

Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

Yes, I actually found an old phone and was in the process of hacking up a converter cable when my sons talked me out of connecting it. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 10:45 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection Apparently

Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

Apparently modbus is a data protocol, not a physical layer standard, but yes it could go over RS485. I don’t see how a simple cable could convert from USB to RS485. I sure hope for $200 you are getting a dongle, not an expensive cable. The connector you are referring to, is that a 4 pin

Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

The voltages make sense if it is TTL. From: Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 10:34 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection MODBUS and RS-485 are very commonly related and used together. As I remember RS-485 is just a format that

Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

I never noticed, but yeah the pinout for both looks identical.  I wonder if RS485 and USB have some shared heritage. The converters are very small.  It might be hard to tell the difference between a slightly large plug package and a miniaturized electronic package.without cutting it open

Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

MODBUS and RS-485 are very commonly related and used together. As I remember RS-485 is just a format that goes farther distance than RS-232. This is/was typical in SCADA systems. I don’t recall if it was TTL logic levels or not. I would not be surprised if the cable is also a TTL logic

[AFMUG] OT odd data connection

On one of my large portable air compressors, there is a data port. They sell an adapter cable for about $200 It adapts it to USB. The program that you use to talk to it makes reference to modbus. The data port has 4 pins. RJ-10 4p4c connector. +5 with enough current to light an incandescent

Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Attachment - Tree Trimming?

One issue that confused me was the tree trimmers for our electric company had a good sized limb fall onto a fiber drop cable.  I talked to the crew and tried to have a conversation with them about their liability insurance and they claimed I was the first person to ever imply that they might

Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Attachment - Tree Trimming?

Around here, both towns and utilities mostly hire tree services to trim the trees around the poles and wires. So the trimming and chipping usually go together. Bucket truck for the guy with the chain saw, and a dump truck pulling a shredder with a couple guys ground crew feeding the shredder

Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Attachment - Tree Trimming?

Nice, this is probably where we’ll end up. Ideally, we could find a balance of: we cut, town chips. From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 7:48 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Attachment - Tree Trimming? The vast

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: illinois boiled eggs 14 minutes

My wife just mentioned to me how she does her hard boiled eggs in the Instapot. Four minutes on pressure, four minutes on natural release. Ice bath after that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast

Peyton's is good On Wed, Aug 19, 2020, 6:52 AM Lewis Bergman wrote: > I need to check HEB for Chorizo. Sam's has it, and it tastes good, but it > isn't the same consistency as the best Chorizo. I try to keep some around > at all times. > I have a Google places list of the best Mexican food

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast

I need to check HEB for Chorizo. Sam's has it, and it tastes good, but it isn't the same consistency as the best Chorizo. I try to keep some around at all times. I have a Google places list of the best Mexican food restaurants in town. The determining factor is if they will put chorizo in my