Re: [AFMUG] OT metal detectors

Did he use metal rldtector or copper wire? On Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 9:57 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > About 3’. The water guy found it just fine. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 29, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > >  > > How deep was the end? My experience with metal detectors has been that

Re: [AFMUG] Charging for Training

We deal with alot of MSHA for the quarries. 15 to 30 minute training, some weird requirements. Manpower doesnt even eat through a couple months service On Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 6:40 PM Lewis Bergman wrote: > I have found that most companies that require this, also are accustomed to > paying you to

Re: [AFMUG] OT metal detectors

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/21/565746002/u-k-water-companies-sometimes-use-dowsing-rods-to-find-pipes From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 9:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT metal detectors About 3’. The

Re: [AFMUG] OT metal detectors

About 3’. The water guy found it just fine. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 29, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > >  > How deep was the end? My experience with metal detectors has been that they > can't do more than a foot of soil. > > > > bp > > On 9/29/2020 6:03 PM, Andrew Haninger w

Re: [AFMUG] OT metal detectors

How deep was the end? My experience with metal detectors has been that they can't do more than a foot of soil. bp On 9/29/2020 6:03 PM, Andrew Haninger wrote: From watching detecting and treasure hunting videos on YouTub

Re: [AFMUG] OT metal detectors

>From watching detecting and treasure hunting videos on YouTube, Garrett is pretty popular, but they are pricey for what I saw. For sure they have entry level models, but I'm betting they don't do all of the fancy discrimination and have removable coils and such. Though it shouldn't have surprised

Re: [AFMUG] Charging for Training

I have found that most companies that require this, also are accustomed to paying you to do it. All of my large customers with safety programs requirements pay for our labor and direct costs to meet their needs. On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:27 PM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > Up to you. If it’s insanel

[AFMUG] OT metal detectors

Had a drill rod break today. The guys did not know where the end was because the sonde went to sleep on them. Had the local water guy go over with his metal detector and help them find it. I am going to ask him what kind he has. Anyone here use them? Any opinions?-- AF mailing list AF@af.

Re: [AFMUG] Customer prem poles/masts

Only if you climb barefoot. (I climbed a stepped pole in tennis shoes once, wow did that hurt). From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 3:01 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer prem poles/masts Is my man card permanently lost if I hammer in pole steps instead? O

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP 1000

The new radios solved the problem. I have bad radio in truck so I can test at home this weekend...no idea why it didn't allow DHCP requests to go through but worked well with static IP enabled devices. On Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 11:46 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > No you're confusing two different things

Re: [AFMUG] Customer prem poles/masts

Is my man card permanently lost if I hammer in pole steps instead?  Or can I redeem myself somehow? On 9/29/2020 4:58 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Hooks and a belt.  Come on, be a man! *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2020 2:27 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cu

Re: [AFMUG] Customer prem poles/masts

Hooks and a belt. Come on, be a man! From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 2:27 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer prem poles/masts You can also talk to electrical contractors. I used to get 50ft poles (42ft AGL) set for about $1500. He handled all the logis

Re: [AFMUG] Customer prem poles/masts

You can also talk to electrical contractors.  I used to get 50ft poles (42ft AGL) set for about $1500.  He handled all the logistics of stocking and transporting poles.  We'd screw the SM on ahead of time with elevation pre-set.  For aligning azimuth the contractor would rotate the pole in the

Re: [AFMUG] Charging for Training

Up to you. If it’s insanely long we might charge them. Hour or less I don’t care. We do try to keep track of who the installer / service person who went through the training was so that we send the same person back to avoid the training issue. Mark > On Sep 29, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Matt

Re: [AFMUG] speed tests and TCP/IP overhead

exactly +1  Also, it will compensate for the loss in some off the shelf routers when navigating the poorly written firewalls. On 9/29/20 9:40 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: On a 25 Mbps plan for example, we provision the speed bucket to 28 Mbps flat. We use Preseem for the rate limiting. Generally o

Re: [AFMUG] Customer prem poles/masts

Thanks Craig. Good info. I may hit you up. On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 2:57 PM Craig House wrote: > I get them directly from the utility pole producer. There’s a distribution > yard in eastern Kansas that has them shipped to them from Alabama. They > have to come by rail car. They will deliver a doz

Re: [AFMUG] speed tests and TCP/IP overhead

One time I checked the difference was 6% -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 1:44 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Ken Hohhof Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speed tests and TCP/IP overhead We usually provision at 10% over the speed. On 9/29/20 10:29 A

[AFMUG] Charging for Training

What's standard procedure when a large facility requires you to take training while on site before you can perform the install so that you know how to do it the way they want (for safety?). Is it normal to charge them for the time your tech is there for that training? -- AF mailing list AF@a

Re: [AFMUG] Customer prem poles/masts

I get them directly from the utility pole producer. There’s a distribution yard in eastern Kansas that has them shipped to them from Alabama. They have to come by rail car. They will deliver a dozen of them at a time to me at my location for around $8000. Obviously you should find someplace clos

Re: [AFMUG] Customer prem poles/masts

I assume you get these poles from the utility company? Can you share how much? On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 2:07 PM Craig House wrote: > 60 foot utility poles go 8 feet in the ground in our area resulting in a > 52 foot above ground option and you can extend that with the pipe to pipe > clamp and som

Re: [AFMUG] speed tests and TCP/IP overhead

We usually provision at 10% over the speed. On 9/29/20 10:29 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Two part question: 1) If you set a speed limit, like 10 Mbps, using Preseem or Mikrotik queue or something similar, what do you expect to see at a speedtest site like speedtest.net?  I’m thinking something like

Re: [AFMUG] Customer prem poles/masts

Movement in the wind doesn't change the angle of the beam enough to matter.  Bigger problem is the whole pole moving from settling earth, or twisting when it dries out.  Those issues seem to stop coming up after a few years. in any case, I definitely agree that a 5ghz dish is less of a pro

Re: [AFMUG] Customer prem poles/masts

60 foot utility poles go 8 feet in the ground in our area resulting in a 52 foot above ground option and you can extend that with the pipe to pipe clamp and some rigid conduit. They are not cheap to get in the ground but I do have the equipment to do it. The nice thing about them is you can put

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Resellers

If this is a DIA circuit, you should have rolled a truck and power cycled the radio from the roof. Then... no e-mails or calls. On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 2:52 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Yup... hate them, we've gotten several calls from CCR, DSR, > Asentinal DSR

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Resellers

Yup... hate them, we've gotten several calls from CCR, DSR, Asentinal DSR is by far the worst. On 9/29/20 1:03 PM, Nate Burke wrote: Just had to deal with another reseller.  Link to a large factory. Link goes down at 4:30pm Friday.  Nobody at plant can escort us in until Monday.  Reseller

[AFMUG] Customer prem poles/masts

What are some cheap and easy options you guys have used to get remote subscribers connectivity? Many rural subscribers have break over poles that can reach 20-25 ft. I'm looking for 40-50 ft options. Looking to mount Force 300-25 or 450b HG SM's. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] Virtual machines

I've been using VMware ESX and now ESXi for a few years. It works just fine. I honestly have no complaints over it. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 5:52 PM TJ Trout wrote: > Cli,web > > On Mon, Sep

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP 1000

No you're confusing two different things. 169.254.1.1/24 is on every device. 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 was on the AP/SM respectively (in addition to 169.254.1.1). This is the IP you replace when you configure the device. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayn

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP 1000

IP Scanner will only work in the subnet your device's interface is configured to, ie 192.168.1.0/24 Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 9:51 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Hmm..I wonder why IP Scanner didn't

Re: [AFMUG] speed tests and TCP/IP overhead

I think the big guys do that Too.  I remember getting a 100mb Comcast coax line, and it testing at 110mb,so the tech could point at his laptop and say O look! I set the queue about 1-2mb higher than the plan rate. On 9/29/2020 9:48 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: Here are a couple screenshots show

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Resellers

Just had to deal with another reseller.  Link to a large factory. Link goes down at 4:30pm Friday.  Nobody at plant can escort us in until Monday.  Reseller sends email every 6 hours all weekend asking for status update, We reply 'we can't get in to work on it until Monday'.  Reseller sends ang

Re: [AFMUG] speed tests and TCP/IP overhead

TCP/IP overhead is 7% so we just add 10%. 10Mbps would be 11Mbps. On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 10:41 AM Darin Steffl wrote: > On a 25 Mbps plan for example, we provision the speed bucket to 28 Mbps > flat. We use Preseem for the rate limiting. Generally on a speedtest, we > see 26-27 Mbps on tests wh

Re: [AFMUG] speed tests and TCP/IP overhead

Overhead depends on packet size and who's exactly measuring at what at what layer, but probably about 5-10%.  I bump customers up 10% so on a 10meg they'll see something like 10.1 or 10.2.  I know Verizon FiOS does this too.  I figure if it saves even a handful of phone calls per year then it w

Re: [AFMUG] speed tests and TCP/IP overhead

On a 25 Mbps plan for example, we provision the speed bucket to 28 Mbps flat. We use Preseem for the rate limiting. Generally on a speedtest, we see 26-27 Mbps on tests when provisioned for 28 Mbps on a 25 Mbps plan. If you provisioned to 26 Mbps, you would probably see exactly 25 Mbps. I think it

[AFMUG] speed tests and TCP/IP overhead

Two part question: 1) If you set a speed limit, like 10 Mbps, using Preseem or Mikrotik queue or something similar, what do you expect to see at a speedtest site like speedtest.net? I'm thinking something like 9.5 Mbps. I'm assuming the bandwidth manager is looking at line rate but the speed

Re: [AFMUG] campground WiFi "booster"

They need an actual router with a radio receiver attached.  Many RV parks don't have a clue how to run their wifi and attaching directly to it is asking to get hacked.  You want to set up your own DNS entries as well. On 9/28/20 8:11 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Customers sometimes ask what is the

Re: [AFMUG] campground WiFi "booster"

Rt-n12 $18 and can do ap mode, normal router, extender etc etc even dual wan ! On Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 4:24 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > If I was gonna get fancy I'd figure on a telescoping mast that flips down > and stows on the side of the trailer, and a client bridge with a > directional antenna th

Re: [AFMUG] campground WiFi "booster"

If I was gonna get fancy I'd figure on a telescoping mast that flips down and stows on the side of the trailer, and a client bridge with a directional antenna that I could aim at the AP. On 9/28/2020 11:49 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: The perfect solution is to use a wifi client like a Loco M2 as a

Re: [AFMUG] campground WiFi "booster"

Yeah this. On 9/28/2020 11:49 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: The perfect solution is to use a wifi client like a Loco M2 as a station. Then wire it to your own AP inside the camper. That way it's not an extender and doesn't cut throughput in half. On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 10:12 PM Ken Hohhof