Re: [AFMUG] GPON through MUX?

2021-04-05 Thread Chris Fabien
Adam, GPON is 1310/1490. There are definitely ways to overlay DWDM. We overlay 1550 RF video over our GPON and it's probably a way wider signal than DWDM would be. On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:33 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > > GPON is 1490 down and 1550 up > > I've been using CWDM which overlaps that. I

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Erich Kaiser
Amen. I'll see you at the show! On Mon, Apr 5, 2021, 6:21 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote: > Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of April 4th). > > Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid. > > That's practically non-existent. > > Live life, or don't. Ju

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
I'll live my life just the same way I climb towers -- safely.I don't climb without a harness I don't go into large groups when COVID is around. Now we'll see... I might be COVID inoculated a few more days and I'll know. On 4/5/21 7:19 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote: Dalla

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
That is practically non-existent.. and is interesting. Does that mean everyone there has already had it? How can a county of 2.6 million have 300 cases a day but a county of 110,000 has 34-50 new cases a day? On 4/5/21 7:19 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote: Dallas county (2.6 million

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of April 4th). Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid. That's practically non-existent. Live life, or don't. Just don't complain when other's live their life. Jim Bouse Owner - Brazos WiFi 979-985-5912 http://www.br

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
Texas: I'd be going to Dallas. Pennsylvania: I'm no where near Philly or Pittsburgh. My County has about 34 new cases per day. On 4/5/21 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure seems like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count

Re: [AFMUG] Splicer purchase

2021-04-05 Thread Dev
Fujikura 40 S, used to be a ton of money, you can get one used sub $1500, good quality if you don’t want a cheap Chinese unit. The convenience alone will probably make you happier than you were before. > On Apr 4, 2021, at 7:26 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > Since fusion splicers arent 5 figures a

Re: [AFMUG] Splicer purchase

2021-04-05 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I have had pretty good luck with my Inno splicers. The ribbon splicer seems to have more loss than expected. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:25 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splicer purchase We tried the Speedwolf from Amazon and it was awful.

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Here's the deal: Without the vaccine, if you come in contact with the virus in a high enough dose to catch it, you're almost certain to catch it. If you catch it and have high-risk medical conditions, you have an unreasonable chance of ending up dead. Even if you don't end up dead, there is a ve

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread David Coudron
As was mentioned elsewhere in this this thread, let’s not start down this path. I don’t think links like this are helpful and this is going to end up in a political discussion (again). If you want to go to WiSPAmerica, go. If you don’t want to go, don’t go. No need to debate or tell anyon

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Jan-GAMs
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Steve Jones
https://shop.fctry.com/products/dr-fauci-action-figure this is what its all about On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 12:23 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > There is a lot of false reporting by fearmongers in the extremes on both > sides of the situation. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solution

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Mike Hammett
There is a lot of false reporting by fearmongers in the extremes on both sides of the situation. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Erich Kaiser" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Erich Kaiser
If it gives me a chance not to die from Covid and lessen the symptoms if I do get it, I will take it. Thats what these vaccines are supposed to do. Pfizer and Moderna are supposed to be like 80% effective 2 weeks after first vaccination.I am getting my second vaccination for Moderna in about a

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Robert Andrews
The important part of that is that they are testing positive with minor symptoms, unless you have some hard reports of more severe cases? But minor symptoms can still make you contagious to someone who isn't immunized or if both aren't masked. On 04/05/2021 08:39 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Forre

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Steve Jones
[image: road to hell.jpg] On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:32 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > We probably shouldn't continue down this road > On 4/5/2021 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases? Hmm sure seems like > you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser cas

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Adam Moffett
We probably shouldn't continue down this road On 4/5/2021 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure seems like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
a) it's 80-95% effective b) it takes two weeks after the second dose (moderna & pfizer) to build this immunity Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:40 AM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> w

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases? Hmm sure seems like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@riverval

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Adam Moffett
When I got my shots there were hundreds of people at the vaccination site, and it's 10-14 days after the second shot that you have maximum effect.  So I've definitely wondered how many people end up getting infected at the vaccination site. On 4/5/2021 11:39 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Forrest - k

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
Forrest - keep in mind there are lots of reports of folks getting immunizes and then contracting COVID weeks later. I'm not sure how we finally get out of this. On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude towards a pandemic and ot

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
Same here Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke. On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern. On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

2021-04-05 Thread Sam Lambie
I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern. On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > >Is her daughter still involved with the organization? > > Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php > > Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Splicer purchase

2021-04-05 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Fiberrun, We have a couple of inno splicers that we like. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.Myakka.com -- Monday, April 5, 2021, 10:46:59 AM, you wrote: fmc> I've used a Signal Fire splicer, one of the series 7 models. I

Re: [AFMUG] Splicer purchase

2021-04-05 Thread fiberrun
I've used a Signal Fire splicer, one of the series 7 models. It works, but the app is a bit annoying. Haven't tried any other Chinese vendors. Came in a case with tools. It's fine for burning the occasional single. http://www.signalfiresplicer.com/   - Jared     Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 F

Re: [AFMUG] Osprey on towers

2021-04-05 Thread James Howard
I was out chatting with the farmer at one of our tower sites on a grain leg about a week ago and he told me that he had a pair of Ospreys build a nest on the top of the leg last year. He said he called a friend of his at the DNR and talked to him about it. The DNR guy said that if there are no

Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

2021-04-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
I'd rather have huge terminals though =\ so much easier to just deal with bare wire that gets screwed in. On 4/5/21 10:24 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I'm sometimes guilty of harping on a small detail that bothers me.  I think you're doing the same right now.  None of this is objectively a big de

Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

2021-04-05 Thread Adam Moffett
I'm sometimes guilty of harping on a small detail that bothers me.  I think you're doing the same right now.  None of this is objectively a big deal. I have done something similar to Gino on the LTE deployments where Telrad used a 4-wire connector.  I.E.: Use a surge suppressor or other conne

Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

2021-04-05 Thread Josh Baird
Are you just looking at the picture or something? It's 4C. Check the specs. On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 9:54 AM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > That only appears to have 3 cables in it? > > On 4/2/21 6:24 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > > Power really isn't a pain in the ass. Just

Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

2021-04-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
That only appears to have 3 cables in it? On 4/2/21 6:24 PM, Josh Baird wrote: Power really isn't a pain in the ass.  Just use this (which is what Josh L. linked): https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0

Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

2021-04-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
The issue with 4 wire: 1) It's stupid -- whatever I can do with 4 wire I should be able to do with 2 wire. 2) The connectors are extremely small, to the point they are hard to work with and more things to break. 3) It's not standard red/black, so more chance for someone to wire something u

Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

2021-04-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
Tell me more about this jumper please. By far the worst part of these radios is the power wire. On 4/3/21 6:28 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: We have run the numbers and the most cost-efficient kit we have found is this setup with individual runs per AP: FS FTTA Armored Fiber https://www.fs.co

Re: [AFMUG] Splicer purchase

2021-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
We tried the Speedwolf from Amazon and it was awful. We wasted days/weeks trying to figure out our problems. Tons of people have had good luck with various $1000 ones, but not us. We won't spend the money on a $1000 splicer from Amazon when we can spend $3000 for a Sumitomo. Not only does it wo

Re: [AFMUG] Splicer purchase

2021-04-05 Thread Josh Baird
Jared, Any specific brands/models we should be looking for? Thanks! Josh On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 7:16 AM wrote: > If you are only doing short haul stuff or drops then you can just get one > of those el cheapo Chinese splicers with all included for less than a grand. > > There really isn't a re

Re: [AFMUG] Splicer purchase

2021-04-05 Thread fiberrun
If you are only doing short haul stuff or drops then you can just get one of those el cheapo Chinese splicers with all included for less than a grand. There really isn't a reason to not have a splicer in your tools set if you work with fiber to any extent. You can still farm out the work or use