Re: [AFMUG] Aviat WTM4200 Latency

2021-09-01 Thread Jason McKemie
I've checked the light levels, auto negotiation is off, and I've also enabled flow control - all with no change in the behavior. On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 2:32 PM TJ Trout wrote: > turn auto neg off, try flow control on and off. Check your light levels on > all 4 sfp's and make sure they are

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread James Howard
Is it a Wisconsin thing that you have a to have any wire that penetrates the building "envelope" grounded within 20 feet of penetration to meet code? Seems like if you have to ground it anyway within 20 feet of entry, put the POE there and then they can have their extender wherever they want

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread Adam Moffett
OhI assumed you were going building to building. On 9/1/2021 5:44 PM, Steve Jones wrote: all but the exterior cable run of maybe 12 feet. theyre extending their building out and putting up another building in the current LOS On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 3:43 PM James Howard

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread Steve Jones
all but the exterior cable run of maybe 12 feet. theyre extending their building out and putting up another building in the current LOS On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 3:43 PM James Howard wrote: > Just out of curiosity, if he can put a network rack at the midpoint, how > much of this is inside

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread James Howard
Just out of curiosity, if he can put a network rack at the midpoint, how much of this is inside buildings? From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:26 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5 thats what i suggested trying

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread Robert Andrews
the WISPA offender registry... On 9/1/21 11:53 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Might get me on some kind of offender registry. *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:19 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5 +1 Use SS or blow ports up during

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Might get me on some kind of offender registry. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:19 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5 +1 Use SS or blow ports up during thunderstorms. Those are the only two options. Chuck should open a trenchcoat to

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread Steve Jones
[image: 5lk6g2.jpg] On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 1:20 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > +1 > Use SS or blow ports up during thunderstorms. Those are the only two > options. > > Chuck should open a trenchcoat to reveal an assortment of surge protectors > inside. > > > On 9/1/2021 2:15 PM, Chuck McCown via AF

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread Adam Moffett
+1 Use SS or blow ports up during thunderstorms.  Those are the only two options. Chuck should open a trenchcoat to reveal an assortment of surge protectors inside. On 9/1/2021 2:15 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: When he does this, just for shits connect the PSU at the beginning and

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
When he does this, just for shits connect the PSU at the beginning and bridge all the middle stuff and just see if it works. I will be it will be just fine. However I am certain he needs a ton of surge protectors at each end of all ethernet runs just sayin’ From: Steve Jones Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread Steve Jones
thats what i suggested trying first, customer wanted the extender, irritating he finally has caved now and will be putting a network rack in the midpoint and is going to place a managed switch there instead of all this other unsupportable cobbling. Sometimes we get a win. On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread Adam Moffett
Maybe a dumb question, but has it already been tried without the extender? 400ft is beyond 100m, but not by all that much.  It might just work without any faffing around. On 9/1/2021 11:16 AM, Steve Jones wrote: I have a customer fixed on using

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread Mathew Howard
The Mikrotik thing doesn't appear to be doing anything with voltage, the poe is just a passthrough (and to power it), it's purpose is to extend the ethernet beyond 100 meters... I'm assuming it's basically just a 2 port switch with poe in on one port and out on the other, so you'd want it

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread Steve Jones
i dont recall if these have the heater in them like the other epmp. winter is going to be problem I dont understand letting customers do things outside the demarc. I voiced my opinion and got over ruled, so time will tell. A fiber media converter would be the bees knees, solve a bunch of

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
The POE inserter is indoors only rated. If you wanted to make sure the radio has full voltage you would want to put this device out by the radio. I fully agree with you, put the cambium PSU as far down the line as you can. You are probably using at least 4 if not all 8 wires for the POE.

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Put 48V into it and it should take care of regulating the voltage at the far end (if the spec sheet is to be believed. The bigger issue is likely to be that it goes *kaboom* with every nearby lightning strike.Run fiber. Mark > On Sep 1, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > > I have a

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread Mathew Howard
That isn't right... you aren't using a pair of 24 gauge, not a single wire, so it's effectively 21 gauge, but that's still saying a 5v drop at 400, but a Force 300 is also going to be closer to .25 amp load during normal operation, so you're looking at more like a 2.5v drop, assuming the

[AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

2021-09-01 Thread Steve Jones
I have a customer fixed on using https://i.mt.lv/cdn/product_files/GPeRqg_190928.pdf to extend his epmp f300 radio run to 400+ feet. if im calculating this right there will be about a 10v drop on the 24guage cat5, taking the 30v down to 20. If it does manage to keep the radio powered i see it