Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

oh, I forgot shipping on that, which will apply to any you don't pick up, but Sig Solar I think is a little higher than a lot of others, which probably brings it close to .50/watt delivered... But still probably $6K delivered for 12Kwatts? Plus probably another $3K for the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

thats .42 / watt On 1/19/22 1:00 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: https://www.signaturesolar.com/products/375w-72cell-mono-solar-panel-by-rec-l-full-pallet-of-33 $159/panel   for 12K watts.. On 1/19/22 9:59 AM, Nate Burke wrote: What is the going rate for solar panels these days? On 1/19/2022

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

https://www.signaturesolar.com/products/375w-72cell-mono-solar-panel-by-rec-l-full-pallet-of-33 $159/panel for 12K watts.. On 1/19/22 9:59 AM, Nate Burke wrote: What is the going rate for solar panels these days? On 1/19/2022 11:51 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Propane fridges, water

Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

50 cents/watt or less. From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 11:00 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home What is the going rate for solar panels these days? On 1/19/2022 11:51 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Propane

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

It ranges widely depending on who you're talking to, but if you know who to go to you can generally get them for between 40 and 50 cents per watt. bp On 1/19/2022 9:59 AM, Nate Burke wrote: What is the going rate for solar panels

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

What is the going rate for solar panels these days? On 1/19/2022 11:51 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Propane fridges, water heater, clothes dryers and space heaters are a pretty good solution for off grid.  Obviously if you have enough solar you don’t need any of them but for the money, I

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

What is the going rate for solar panels these days? On 1/19/2022 11:51 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Propane fridges, water heater, clothes dryers and space heaters are a pretty good solution for off grid.  Obviously if you have enough solar you don’t need any of them but for the money, I

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

Propane fridges, water heater, clothes dryers and space heaters are a pretty good solution for off grid. Obviously if you have enough solar you don’t need any of them but for the money, I think that is the best use of the dollar. From: Steven Kenney via AF Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

Consider a fridge that runs on either electric or propane like RV's. They work great. On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 5:10 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Say a similar on grid home used 500 kWh per month. That is equivalent to a > steady state load of almost 700 watts. Round up to 1kW. So 10 kW

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

Very cool inverter. On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:08 PM Robert wrote: > I am working on my first off grid home, and hope to do another in the > future somewhere more northerly..This one is in the sunbelt of N. > Nevada and currently I have 4K of solar feeding a 30KW LFP battery bank > through

Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing

Sent a request to HE for a quote. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 9:50 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing Cogent doesn't participate in IXes at all, which is indeed a problem. HE is better than Cogent in many ways, but Cogent is

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

The only stable router for that scale is the 1036 and it will route 10g+ but falls on its face with certain ddos attacks. x86 like the Baltic vengence is pretty bulletproof and all around works really well. I have my eye on juniper mx204s because I really want to move to ASIC based 'big iron'

Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing

Cogent doesn't participate in IXes at all, which is indeed a problem. HE is better than Cogent in many ways, but Cogent is still bigger. https://asrank.caida.org/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original

Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing

sa...@he.net ma...@he.net Either of those two emails will do the trick. They're a very small company by employee count so you'll only ever deal with one or two people in sales. It's amazing how large their network is but they're a small company with little overhead. Noc emails and calls are

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

They are 2x what I can get a 32 seer unit that heats to -22 degrees...  (SEER is a handwave number but -22 isn't)...  heating is actually more important than cooling here...  have to have the batteries and inverter anyways..   but I will consider in the future specially for the garage... On

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

Well since it was released in the middle of December, just over 30 calendar days. On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 11:18 AM Mathew Howard wrote: > How recently have you looked at v7? I've had 7.1.1 running on a few > routers for a couple of weeks, and so far, I haven't seen any problems with > it. > >

Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing

You have a sales rep I can contact? From: Darin Steffl Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 9:24 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing HE has a better network and support than Cogent. If you can only start with one of the two, I'd go with HE first. We love

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

Currently have a 5kw propane genny hooked up but it's only 120v, the 8kw propane 220v is sitting there waiting for an exhaust pipe adapter to get finished so we can hook it to the exhaust pipe that exits the genny room.   We had a 12kw diesel outside genny but fried the control panel out of

Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing

HE has a better network and support than Cogent. If you can only start with one of the two, I'd go with HE first. We love their network, sales, and support. If you're picking it up in Salt Lake, they have 5 paths out vs. Cogent's 3 paths. You'll find HE performs better latency wise with better

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: Covid natural immunity

I've had friends who had delta in early November getting Omicron.   So I don't think immunity really existed for Omicron, but they all had quick, flu like symptoms of Omicron ( 3 families, total 8 people ).   What the experts are calling endemic conditions.   I was really frustrated that about

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

2004 is like the stone age in internet years. bp On 1/19/2022 8:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: I have never been a Mikrotik fan boy...i remember their techs in Dallas-FW American Airlines site during a WISP gathering writing

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

How recently have you looked at v7? I've had 7.1.1 running on a few routers for a couple of weeks, and so far, I haven't seen any problems with it. On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 10:03 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > Simply based on the complaints and well done bug reports (ie excluding v7 > is junk cuz I

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

I have never been a Mikrotik fan boy...i remember their techs in Dallas-FW American Airlines site during a WISP gathering writing code at their booth. circa 2004 on layover before a trip out to Bolivia. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 9:01 AM Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

Juniper, Cisco, etc. really are no better than Mikrotik at reliability. Support really isn't any better either. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

An x86-based Mikrotik solution (likely via a CHR VM) would be your best bet. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via AF" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Cc:

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

I don't understand, you don't want to spend $25k but you want a router good enough for 5000 customers? That's 250k-500k/month minimum. Kind of sounds like you want a Juniper now (which also, based on what I've heard has its own fair share of stupid bugs - like its own DDOS protection locking

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

Simply based on the complaints and well done bug reports (ie excluding v7 is junk cuz I say so) I wouldn't do v7 in production. I won't do it at home! I just don't have the time to screw with it. I would imagine it would OSPF nicely to the other routers, be it Cisco or a v6 Mikrotik, but the

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

We are running V6.48.6 & V7.1.1 in a mixed environment. CHRs and CCRs. CCR2004s are running V7.1.1 and zero issues so far. No reboots, no problems. BGP had some odd tweaks but Linktechs figured them out quickly. On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 10:41 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > Canopy, > >

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

I have two issues with MT. It has a sketchy track record over the years. Some models work, others not so well. There was a period in the early days that there were twentyeleven versions of the software and you had to pick and choose the version for what you wanted to do. I know that was

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

Nice. I used something similar in a telco central office years ago that was 100% solar. Worked great. From: Zach Underwood Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 6:13 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home If you have not already gotten

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router Canopy, That new CCR2116 looks like a beast.  I would love to try one of those out as a BGP router.  Just worried about the new software.  It is nice to hear someone has them in production.  Are you in a mixed version environment? -- Best regards, Mark      

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router Josh, I was wondering if anyone has tried v7 in mixed production with v6 units.  They are coming out with some nice new HW, but it runs only v7.  I guess that is a good thing being they are not wasting their time putting old SW on the new HW.  I much rather

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

I'd HIGHLY recommend starting with Mikrotik. Go with a CCR2004 or the newer CCR2116. We have two locations where we upgraded them to V7.1.1 and they are stable even with BGP/OSPF, etc. Next best option would be a Mikrotik on an X86 like Baltic. But at that point, might as well go Juniper. You

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

I'm using Mikrotik. Get a "cheap" 1036 right now. When you outgrow it, replace it with the bigger CCR (1072 is bigger but you need to avoid NAT and such for crashes at high throughput). The newer CCR are bigger still and even cheaper, but v7 only and hence are super buggy. On Tue, Jan 18, 2022

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

If you have not already gotten the mini splits take a look at https://www.hotspotenergy.com/solar-air-conditioner/ It has direct PV inputs when sunny it would put no load on your inverter IT can be put in solar only mode where it will scale the cool/heat output to match the power it is getting PV

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

Say a similar on grid home used 500 kWh per month. That is equivalent to a steady state load of almost 700 watts. Round up to 1kW. So 10 kW panel minimum. Panels are cheap these days. I would do 20kW if you can. Batts are not so cheap. That is where you can save some big money with a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

10x average load for panels. 3 days of battery plus backup generator. Have generator control based on battery voltage. Overcast days yield 5% of full sun. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2022, at 5:07 PM, Robert wrote: > > I am working on my first off grid home, and hope to do another