Re: [AFMUG] OT: extra-small 10/100 ethernet switch/repeater

2022-08-16 Thread Colin Stanners
Lookup the MikroTik hAP mini, even without case, or the 2-port mAP. I don't think that you can get smaller without extreme engineering. On Tue, Aug 16, 2022, 8:35 PM Robert, wrote: > get a tempest > > On 8/16/22 12:36 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > > > We have this Davis Vantage Pro 2 weather

Re: [AFMUG] OT: extra-small 10/100 ethernet switch/repeater

2022-08-16 Thread Robert
get a tempest On 8/16/22 12:36 PM, Bill Prince wrote: We have this Davis Vantage Pro 2 weather station. We've had it for at least 12 or 14 years. For quite some time, we had it in our utility room where it was out of the way. Because the utility room was kind of central to the main part of

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Did we actually lose Jaime back in May?

2022-08-16 Thread Steve Jones
I wasnt even there. I have an alibi. On Tue, Aug 16, 2022, 4:35 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Yeah. He has done this several times though. Steve did his usual routine > and Jaime let it get under his skin. > > -Original Message- > From: Bill Prince > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Did we actually lose Jaime back in May?

2022-08-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Yeah. He has done this several times though. Steve did his usual routine and Jaime let it get under his skin. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 3:10 PM To: Chuck McCown via AF Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Did we actually lose Jaime back in May? Hey, did

[AFMUG] OT: Did we actually lose Jaime back in May?

2022-08-16 Thread Bill Prince
Hey, did Jaime actually unsubscribe back in May when we were having the mass shooting/Lent discussion? That would be a shame. A liberal Texan is kind of a rare commodity. bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: extra-small 10/100 ethernet switch/repeater

2022-08-16 Thread Josh Luthman
This says it does 10 meg... https://mikrotik.com/product/gper On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 3:37 PM Bill Prince wrote: > > We have this Davis Vantage Pro 2 weather station. We've had it for at > least 12 or 14 years. For quite some time, we had it in our utility room > where it was out of the way.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chinese solar panels

2022-08-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Just make sure to accidentally drop a $20 when they are looking over your stuff. If they step on it and tell you to go, you are golden. From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 2:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Chinese solar panels I want to bribe

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chinese solar panels

2022-08-16 Thread Nate Burke
Hey!? How come Steve is able to use 8000mhz wide channels his county? On 8/16/2022 3:12 PM, Steve Jones wrote: I want to bribe officials On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 2:28 PM Chuck McCown via AF > wrote: Been there, done that, including accidentally bribing customs in a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chinese solar panels

2022-08-16 Thread Steve Jones
I want to bribe officials On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 2:28 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Been there, done that, including accidentally bribing customs in a foreign > country... > > *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2022 1:16 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >

[AFMUG] OT: extra-small 10/100 ethernet switch/repeater

2022-08-16 Thread Bill Prince
We have this Davis Vantage Pro 2 weather station. We've had it for at least 12 or 14 years. For quite some time, we had it in our utility room where it was out of the way. Because the utility room was kind of central to the main part of the house, we also had our WiFi AP located in that

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chinese solar panels

2022-08-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Been there, done that, including accidentally bribing customs in a foreign country... From: dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 1:16 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Chinese solar panels Then you can add “Smuggler” to your resume. From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chinese solar panels

2022-08-16 Thread dmmoffett
Then you can add "Smuggler" to your resume. From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 3:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Chinese solar panels Can you just fly to china, then strap some under your coat to get them back? On

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chinese solar panels

2022-08-16 Thread Bill Prince
Now that would be a  spicy meatball. bp On 8/16/2022 12:05 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: No idea yet.  Need to first figure out the legalities. If you get caught funneling the wrong panel through the wrong place you get hit with a 300% tariff. *From:* Steve Jones *Sent:* Tuesday, August

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chinese solar panels

2022-08-16 Thread Nate Burke
Can you just fly to china, then strap some under your coat to get them back? On 8/16/2022 2:05 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: No idea yet. Need to first figure out the legalities. If you get caught funneling the wrong panel through the wrong place you get hit with a 300% tariff. *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chinese solar panels

2022-08-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
No idea yet. Need to first figure out the legalities. If you get caught funneling the wrong panel through the wrong place you get hit with a 300% tariff. From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 12:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Chinese solar

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 900 MHz PtP

2022-08-16 Thread Bill Prince
A name like BreezeAir implies not a lot of substance. bp On 8/16/2022 11:44 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Alvarion 900: Is Your Home Cat An Alien? Polish Scientists Think So - Science Alvarion became Telrad.  They have something called “BreezeAir 8000” which is available in 900mhz.  But

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 900 MHz PtP

2022-08-16 Thread dmmoffett
Alvarion 900: Alvarion became Telrad. They have something called “BreezeAir 8000” which is available in 900mhz. But my faith in them was destroyed by my experience with the Compact 1000. Maybe BreezeAir is the best thing ever, but I’ll let someone else try it. From: AF On

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 900 MHz PtP

2022-08-16 Thread Steve Jones
I dont know how much of alvarion still exists, but their 900 was solid. Havent looked at tranzeo in years to see if they even exist still either On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 10:41 AM wrote: > Might be an issue with the camera….unless they’re ok with a super low > frame rate. > > > > When I looked at

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chinese solar panels

2022-08-16 Thread Steve Jones
What kind of buy in are you looking at? On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Looking to perhaps get a container load of solar panels from someone. > Anyone know that the import duties are these days? It is a bit confusing. > Looks like many of the panels are coming from

Re: [AFMUG] cheap batts

2022-08-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Or maybe IN not KS. From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 12:04 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: [AFMUG] cheap batts https://www.allsurplus.com/asset/695/22183 Keystone pipeline stuff. New. But old. If you are in KS may be worth trying to get some.

[AFMUG] cheap batts

2022-08-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
https://www.allsurplus.com/asset/695/22183 Keystone pipeline stuff. New. But old. If you are in KS may be worth trying to get some. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] WE WANT YOUR OPINIONS

2022-08-16 Thread Ray Savich via AF
That's something you don't hear much anymore. But we DO want to know what you think about the WISP business, technology and growth in our vendor-neutral survey. https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Broadband_Service_Provider_2022 The survey will close out this month and we will publish the results in

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 900 MHz PtP

2022-08-16 Thread dmmoffett
Might be an issue with the camera..unless they're ok with a super low frame rate. When I looked at licensing a channel the $/mhz/population made it 5 digits even for a fairly rural county. I suppose if you only need 125khz then it might work out. From: AF On Behalf Of Scott Imhoff

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PtP

2022-08-16 Thread dmmoffett
At least the rocks won’t get bigger every year. From: AF On Behalf Of Craig Baird Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:56 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PtP I was afraid that would be the case. I guess I'll probably have to pitch the 450i to them.

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 900 MHz PtP

2022-08-16 Thread Scott Imhoff via AF
You might consider obtaining a license for 220 MHz or 450 MHz for the SCADA application, you will have much better propagation in comparison to 900 MHz. From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:22 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [ External ] Re:

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PtP

2022-08-16 Thread Mathew Howard
You'd want PTP-450i, not PMP, which is going to be much cheaper (you'd still be looking at over $1k for a link though). But yeah, that doesn't sound very promising... 900mhz isn't going to go through rock. You should be able to get an old PMP-100 AP and SM for next to nothing if you really want

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 900 MHz PtP

2022-08-16 Thread Scott Imhoff via AF
Craig, An alternative specific for the SCADA application is the cnReach radio, which includes a number of I/O options, industrial durability, and more appropriate air interface. However, will not likely meet the capacity needs to transport CCTV traffic. IIoT Wireless Communication Solutions

[AFMUG] OT Chinese solar panels

2022-08-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Looking to perhaps get a container load of solar panels from someone. Anyone know that the import duties are these days? It is a bit confusing. Looks like many of the panels are coming from Vietnam these days. Depending on the wattage you can get in a container, I may be selling some. Or

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PtP

2022-08-16 Thread Craig Baird
I was afraid that would be the case. I guess I'll probably have to pitch the 450i to them. Although honestly, I'm not really all that certain 900 MHz will even cut it. This is for the city water company. They have a well up a canyon. About 1/4 mile down the road, they have a cistern. They have

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PtP

2022-08-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I always wanted Orthogon to do a 900 that would take up the whole band and use as much of it as possible. I suggest to the early canopy crew to also give a full band version for rural areas but that never happened either. From: dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 8:13 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PtP

2022-08-16 Thread dmmoffett
If you can live with the capacity of PMP100 they’re going to give you the most consistent outcome. Actually, If you can live with that low of a capacity then CnReach is also an option. It can only run with very small channel sizes, but if whatever you’re doing works within those capacity

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PtP

2022-08-16 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, as far as I know, 450i is the only thing that's still in production. Last I checked, all the old ubnt stuff on eBay was going for nearly as much as new ptp 450 anyway, so that's probably not very realistic either. The only cheap way to do it is probably to use some old pmp100 radios, but

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PtP

2022-08-16 Thread Adam Moffett
I think the 450 is all you’ve got. For me, nlos isn’t worth pursuing anymore. The link degrades over years as trees grow and there’s nothing much you can do about it. I would rather say “no” and pursue something else with my time. But If I had to do 900MHz I think 450i is the only

[AFMUG] 900 MHz PtP

2022-08-16 Thread Craig Baird
Is there a good source for an inexpensive, but reliable 900 MHz PtP, solution these days? Looking for something for a client that needs a nLOS link. All I can find is Cambium 450, which seems crazy expensive for what I'm looking for. Back in my WISP days, I seem to recall you could throw together