Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units

2022-12-28 Thread Steve Jones
theres septic sondes you can use for rodding On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 3:55 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > Speaking of Sondes... I am looking for something I can put on the end of > my conduit rodder. Its a 5/16th Condux with 3/8 UNC male threads. > Assuming I source a sonde / beacon first and then

Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units

2022-12-28 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I tried the Leica. Lousy range. It might do 10’ deep but you have to be very close to pick up the signal. Not like you start picking it up 100’ away from the beacon. I have tried several brands of beacons and they all have the same problem. HDD drill sondes work so much better because they

Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units

2022-12-28 Thread Carl Peterson
Last question... (tonight)... How close does the Sonde have to be to what the receiver is? I have an existing Ditch Witch 150R receiver which says it works with 30kHz sondes. I am thinking about buying the Metrotech vScan which says it works with 32.768kHz sondes. Would those most likely work

Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units

2022-12-28 Thread Carl Peterson
Speaking of Sondes... I am looking for something I can put on the end of my conduit rodder. Its a 5/16th Condux with 3/8 UNC male threads. Assuming I source a sonde / beacon first and then find an adapter? On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 3:34 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Most boring uses a sonde

Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units

2022-12-28 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I have always felt null was more precise. But that is all I had back in 1978 when I was first learning about cable locating. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 1:40 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units

Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units

2022-12-28 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Most boring uses a sonde transmitter. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 1:44 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units The ViperMag is an underground cable locator. I used it for our bore attachment on the

Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units

2022-12-28 Thread Josh Luthman
The ViperMag is an underground cable locator. I used it for our bore attachment on the SPX25. Metal is metal is metal. On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 3:38 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Drilling locators are a total different beast than underground cable > locators. > > *From:* Josh Luthman >

Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units

2022-12-28 Thread Carl Peterson
Chuck et al, Thoughts on Peak & Null vs Peak only locators like Cat & Genny On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 2:38 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Drilling locators are a total different beast than underground cable > locators. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 28, 2022 12:31 PM >

Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units

2022-12-28 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Drilling locators are a total different beast than underground cable locators. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 12:31 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units Carl, Our favorite locator is the ViperMag. I think it was

Re: [AFMUG] HDD per foot cost

2022-12-28 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Rolling the fiber out on top of the ground. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 12:20 PM To: Chuck McCown Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HDD per foot cost Well that's $1 foot =) On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 12:31 PM Chuck McCown wrote: I will

Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units

2022-12-28 Thread Josh Luthman
Carl, Our favorite locator is the ViperMag. I think it was ~3000 retail. As to its accuracy, based on my one time usage last week I spotted the drill sticks 100% and got the distance within inches. My locator tech says it's 100x better than the old one when there's noise (nearby other

Re: [AFMUG] HDD per foot cost

2022-12-28 Thread Josh Luthman
Well that's $1 foot =) On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 12:31 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > I will take the $10 every day if it is good plowing. I can do 1K in a > half hour. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Friday, December 23, 2022 10:18 AM > *To:* Chuck McCown > *Cc:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >

Re: [AFMUG] HDD per foot cost

2022-12-28 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Drop Plow Nation is one FB group where this stuff is discussed. From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 11:46 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HDD per foot cost If youre getting drilled in Florida, right nows the time to get it done. Everybody is

Re: [AFMUG] HDD per foot cost

2022-12-28 Thread Steve Jones
If youre getting drilled in Florida, right nows the time to get it done. Everybody is migrating south for the winter. Depends on the duct size, depth, etc. Florida and Texas are full of drill operators, some arent high on meth during the workday. Youll get prices from 5-50 a foot back. The big

Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units

2022-12-28 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
If the line is grounded on both ends, yes it will work. But it needs the grounds to complete the circuit. The line grounded at both ends form a one turn transformer. The coils in the transmitter couple with this one turn loop to create the total circuit so you can locate it. Same with

Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units

2022-12-28 Thread Steve Jones
I recently found out my utiliguard has a mode where you just set the transmitter on the ground above a suspected line, the more inline the better and whether its inductance or what, it puts the signal onto the buries conductor and the wand can locate it...sometimes It has its limits because theres