Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-08-02 Thread Josh Luthman
ecom-shelters/?_ga=2.233259614.1766407811.1627746064-1553652512.1627746064 > > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Friday, July 30, 2021 8:28 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO > > > Christ, I could build a pretty badass shelter for $50k. > On 7/30/2021 2:14 PM, Dan

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-08-02 Thread Adam Moffett
elecom-shelters/?_ga=2.233259614.1766407811.1627746064-1553652512.1627746064 <https://usedshelter.com/telecom-shelters/?_ga=2.233259614.1766407811.1627746064-1553652512.1627746064> *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Friday, July 30, 2021 8:28 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buil

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-08-02 Thread Josh Luthman
e few good reasons for building new. > > https://usedshelter.com/telecom-shelters/?_ga=2.233259614.1766407811.1627746064-1553652512.1627746064 > > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Friday, July 30, 2021 8:28 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO >

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-31 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
In my opinion, there are few good reasons for building new. https://usedshelter.com/telecom-shelters/?_ga=2.233259614.1766407811.1627746064-1553652512.1627746064 From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 8:28 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO Christ, I could build

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-30 Thread Adam Moffett
Christ, I could build a pretty badass shelter for $50k. On 7/30/2021 2:14 PM, Daniel White wrote: The listing says the HVAC units have been replaced.  So at least they are not 23 years old :-) New those shelters are $40k-$50k I think photograph Daniel White Co-Founder phone: +1 (702) 47

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Similar from AmProd was $31k last year Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 2:15 PM Daniel White wrote: > The listing says the HVAC units have been replaced. So at least they are > not 23 years old :-) >

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-30 Thread Jason McKemie
You can't just use a double wide equipment cabinet? They make some pretty huge enclosures that have got to be a lot cheaper than a building. On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 8:40 AM Chris Fabien wrote: > We need to upgrade a roadside FTTH cabinet to a small building. I've > never started from scratch be

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-30 Thread Daniel White
The listing says the HVAC units have been replaced.  So at least they are not 23 years old :-) New those shelters are $40k-$50k I think photograph Daniel White Co-Founder phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 direct:+1 (702) 470-2766 > Josh Luthman > July 30, 2021 a

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Probably about the same. But built in 2021 versus 1998. Just think about supporting those 23 year old HVAC systems and paying that bill every month. Now think about spending an extra $2500 for modern ones. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 T

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-29 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Last one I bought was either $12 or $13k. Has 4 AC units, cable tray and has wiring for a transfer switch. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2021, at 5:06 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > >  > Dual HVAC + 200a electric, could you really build that cheaper? > >> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 11:56 AM Josh Luth

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-29 Thread TJ Trout
Dual HVAC + 200a electric, could you really build that cheaper? On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 11:56 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > 16k for a 1998 building...woof... > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 a

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-29 Thread Josh Luthman
16k for a 1998 building...woof... Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 4:27 PM Daniel White wrote: > A tower shelter bolted to a concrete pad is exactly what many companies > use. There really isn't any

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-28 Thread Daniel White
A tower shelter bolted to a concrete pad is exactly what many companies use.  There really isn't any difference between that and a structure built on site to the same spec.  Usually they are prefab concrete. These are the design criteria Fiberbond builds to for instance - https://www.fibrebond.com

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-28 Thread Josh Luthman
Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 1:45 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Google Insulating Concrete Forms > > -Original Message- > From: Chuck McCown via AF > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 11:35 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Cc: Chuck McCo

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-28 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Google Insulating Concrete Forms -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 11:35 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO Always go larger than your first inclination. I would do insulated concrete

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-28 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
. I don't recall if you do two lifts or not. I think so. You might not need any extra heat except for when people come to visit. -Original Message- From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 7:39 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Building a CO We ne

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-28 Thread Chris Fabien
Brad, we have, the building will be back at least 100ft from road and is 800ft from the intersection. Luckily all our fiber is underground so we should be pretty safe there. Adam, good point on the leaks. I was thinking about doing the walls as poured concrete using those forms that look like bri

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-28 Thread Aeron Wireless
I'm sure you've considered your "exposure" to the roadway. My fiber upstream had a major outage as all of their fiber to one of two COs was at this pole. Underground joined aerial at this pole. All fibers then led to the CO behind the building. So while the building was safe from the roadway, they

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-28 Thread Adam Moffett
Steel roofing and siding are zero maintenance and long lasting. A shingled roof and T111 siding are cheaper, but nobody will be there to tell you if it's leaking.  You'll find out when something dies. On 7/28/2021 9:39 AM, Chris Fabien wrote: We need to upgrade a roadside FTTH cabinet to a sm

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-28 Thread Adam Moffett
If you get an electrician be sure to tell them what spec to go by.  Just went through thisone engineer in the home office was insistent on R56 grounding.  Nobody told the electricians, so they went by a Telecordia spec.  I don't remember what he said GRU something something, but it was diff

[AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-28 Thread Chris Fabien
We need to upgrade a roadside FTTH cabinet to a small building. I've never started from scratch before. It will house maybe 2 racks of equipment. I'm thinking 10x15 or 10x20 footprint. I know a used tower shelter is an option but I'm leaning towards a real building, maybe concrete for tornado resis