Re: [AFMUG] Dark Fiber Pricing

2020-04-21 Thread Adam Moffett
You pay for the total length of their fiber that you're using. In my case I actually did want to get from Town A to B to C, and they counted each leg as a separate IRU.  The points where we stop at a splice case were the ends of their run.  So A-B was one billing item and B-C was another. 

Re: [AFMUG] Dark Fiber Pricing

2020-04-20 Thread Chris Fabien
I think a yearly maintenance fee is the typical arrangement but have also heard of a strand leesee or maybe IRU owner needing to share a portion of the costs for, say, a cable relocation due to road widening. All depends on the agreement in place. You can also expect to pay their splicer each

Re: [AFMUG] Dark Fiber Pricing

2020-04-20 Thread Nate Burke
So do you only pay for the dark fiber for the physical cable length that they have it, Like Splice box to splice box, then you put a pig tail on the end of that. Or Would the 'Connection' cost be for every splice box they have to go through. Say, a connection from City A to City C, but the

Re: [AFMUG] Dark Fiber Pricing

2020-04-20 Thread Adam Moffett
In my experience you pay a recurring maintenance fee to cover repairs and such. You don't get to access their cases, so you leave them a pigtail and they splice it into their system.  Often you pay each time you need them to make a connection for you (hopefully just the once). On 4/20/2020

Re: [AFMUG] Dark Fiber Pricing

2020-04-20 Thread Nate Burke
I'm not in the dark fiber game, but what do you mean by 'per-event' billing? Like if there's a fiber cut, you're responsible for part of the repair cost? Or is that for like accessing the electronics on the ends of the fiber. On 4/20/2020 2:10 PM, Chris Fabien wrote: Those seem like fair

Re: [AFMUG] Dark Fiber Pricing

2020-04-20 Thread Adam Moffett
Comparable to what I've seen before. It seems nuts when you multiply it out over 30 miles, but not as nuts as building it. On 4/20/2020 2:44 PM, Jeremy Grip wrote: Can anybody give me an idea of reasonable dark fiber pricing per strand mile? I’m trying to figure out if the rates Vermont

Re: [AFMUG] Dark Fiber Pricing

2020-04-20 Thread Chris Fabien
Those seem like fair rates, is that all inclusive or will you also get billed for maintenance annually or per-event? On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:44 PM Jeremy Grip wrote: > Can anybody give me an idea of reasonable dark fiber pricing per strand > mile? I’m trying to figure out if the rates Vermont

Re: [AFMUG] Dark Fiber Pricing

2020-04-20 Thread Sterling Jacobson
That’s not bad, on par with some long term dark fiber rental contracts I have currently. From: AF On Behalf Of Jeremy Grip Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 12:44 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] Dark Fiber Pricing Can anybody give me an idea of reasonable dark fiber

Re: [AFMUG] Dark Fiber Pricing

2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Does not look bad to me. From: Jeremy Grip Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 12:44 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] Dark Fiber Pricing Can anybody give me an idea of reasonable dark fiber pricing per strand mile? I’m trying to figure out if the rates Vermont asks

[AFMUG] Dark Fiber Pricing

2020-04-20 Thread Jeremy Grip
Can anybody give me an idea of reasonable dark fiber pricing per strand mile? I’m trying to figure out if the rates Vermont asks for state-owned fiber are reasonable, see the attached. Jeremy Grip, LTLOP (long time lurker, occasional poster) -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com