Re: [AFMUG] Satellite internet stats

2018-08-03 Thread Eric Kuhnke
1) Up to 1 Gbps or more, if you have the budget for a large o3b earth station. 2) o3b is around 150ms, absolute lowest you'll see for geostationary 1:1 SCPC is about 492ms 3) Totally depends on how it's engineered for fade margin. 4) Depends on money, again. Your questions are sort of like

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Speedtest.Net

2018-08-03 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Testing around the area most are locked at 1Gbps. Some are 10Gbps connection, but seem throttled at around 1.5Gbps, or something is causing limitations for that. The best I’ve found so far routing outside of my own network is this one which is close to me route wise it appears A detailed

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Speedtest.Net

2018-08-03 Thread Sterling Jacobson
This is what I get from my home computer to my speedtest.net server using the Windows 10 Ookla app on my desktop. A detailed image for this result can be found here: https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/d/fa07eaa5-e7a9-4bde-9a5a-275836ced15b Test Date: Aug 03, 2018 20:06 Download: 4672.63 Mbps

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Speedtest.Net

2018-08-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Consumer-grade services, like speedtest.net. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Trey Scarborough" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 6:49:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Speedtest.Net

2018-08-03 Thread Trey Scarborough
what type of speedtest server? On 8/3/2018 2:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Any 10G-level tests. If all you have is your own 10G tests to your own 10G servers, that'll work. I remember you had problems getting full throughput once you went MPLS, but some were getting 9G+ out of theirs.

[AFMUG] Easy RJ45's with heavy gold plating

2018-08-03 Thread TJ Trout
Easy to install RJ45 connectors, plated in rare 50 micron GOLD, most connectors are only plated with 3 micron of gold. Rated for CAT5E but CAT6 seems to fit and work well. Thousands deployed in the field over the last 12 months prior to offering these for sale. Fits tough cable carrier. Pics;

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Speedtest.Net

2018-08-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Any 10G-level tests. If all you have is your own 10G tests to your own 10G servers, that'll work. I remember you had problems getting full throughput once you went MPLS, but some were getting 9G+ out of theirs. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Speedtest.Net

2018-08-03 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Not sure what you are asking. Are you wanting us to test to your server? Or you want to know which of us has speedtest.net on 10G connection? Or just results of some of us testing to our own 10G servers? From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:24 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Satellite internet stats

2018-08-03 Thread castarritt
TDMA is a good point. If the subscriber radio has to send a bandwidth request and await a reply with an assigned slot in the next frame before it can send actual data, it would add an extra ~240 ms. On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:05 PM Colin Stanners wrote: > Subscriber uplink is likely using some

Re: [AFMUG] Satellite internet stats

2018-08-03 Thread Colin Stanners
Subscriber uplink is likely using some sort of TDMA - those protocols are very difficult to keep efficient when you have hundreds of users in a channel, weather considerations, priority classes and 240ms latency from all clients to the headend. Adding 20-200ms for that is probably reasonable. Also

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Re: [AFMUG] Satellite internet stats

2018-08-03 Thread Bill Prince
I think it's mostly congestion. They have a lot of subs going through each bird. bp On 8/3/2018 9:22 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: Have to include some ms for cache search on the bird...  But not 240 ms, I would think... On 08/03/2018 08:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Less  22,400 x 2

Re: [AFMUG] Satellite internet stats

2018-08-03 Thread Robert Andrews
Have to include some ms for cache search on the bird... But not 240 ms, I would think... On 08/03/2018 08:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Less 22,400 x 2 /186000= 240 mS one way. So 480 mS ping RT under perfect conditions. But in real life it is twice that. No idea why. Perhaps they are

Re: [AFMUG] Satellite internet stats

2018-08-03 Thread Dave
total ickyness :) make me feel sticky LOL On 08/03/2018 10:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Less  22,400 x 2 /186000= 240 mS one way. So 480 mS ping RT under perfect conditions. But in real life it is twice that.  No idea why.  Perhaps they are using another satellite connection for backbone

Re: [AFMUG] Satellite internet stats

2018-08-03 Thread chuck
Less 22,400 x 2 /186000= 240 mS one way. So 480 mS ping RT under perfect conditions. But in real life it is twice that. No idea why. Perhaps they are using another satellite connection for backbone feed. From: castarritt Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 9:22 AM To: af@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Satellite internet stats

2018-08-03 Thread castarritt
It is the ~23,000mi orbit geostationary birds that kill latency. When a ping to a terrestrial server has to travel >90,000mi, the latency will never be better than half a second. Musk wants to do a large constellation of low orbit birds. On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 10:18 AM Seth Mattinen wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Satellite internet stats

2018-08-03 Thread Ron M.
186,000 miles per second. It's not just a good idea, it's the law. :D On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 8/3/18 8:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > >> Latency still sucks. 700-800 ms if there is no congestion. Multi-second >> latency if there is congestion. >> >> > > Time for

Re: [AFMUG] Satellite internet stats

2018-08-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/3/18 8:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Latency still sucks. 700-800 ms if there is no congestion. Multi-second latency if there is congestion. Time for some quantum entanglement. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Satellite internet stats

2018-08-03 Thread Bill Prince
These days speeds are OK if you are not being throttled for too much data. I've seen ~~ 20 Mbps download and maybe 3-4 Mbps upload. Latency still sucks. 700-800 ms if there is no congestion. Multi-second latency if there is congestion. Depends on where you are

Re: [AFMUG] Satellite internet stats

2018-08-03 Thread chuck
suck suck suck suck They have gotten better with speeds. You get whatever you can afford for the most part. Latency is horrible. 800 mS is what it was the last time I played with one. I did not notice weather or sun outages. But I used it for telemetry, I was not streaming netflix on it.

Re: [AFMUG] Battery testers?

2018-08-03 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I was going to recommend this same tester. What is cool about it is that you can fully charge a battery, then set this up to the proper discharge rate, and terminal voltage (from the battery datasheet), and let it run. It will automatically terminate at the correct discharge voltage and tell

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik stuff

2018-08-03 Thread Jason McKemie
They weren't any worse than the CB3/Rootenna combo... On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Mitch Koep wrote: > LOL thanks Chuck > > went that route in 2006 and learned an expensive lesson so no thanks > > Thought I would just check we have 11 more sites to change over yet > > Mitch > > > > On