Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-23 Thread Eric Kuhnke
m 1990 in Mexico City. Lasers from high >> rise banking buildings to other high rise banking buildings. Building >> move. >> >> *From:* dave >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2019 3:16 PM >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 mile

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-21 Thread Stephen Patrick
gt; Arrgh, flashback, bad ptsd from 1990 in Mexico City. Lasers from high > rise banking buildings to other high rise banking buildings. Building > move. > > *From:* dave > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2019 3:16 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-19 Thread Daniel White
ect:* Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles? Do Light optics On 2/19/19 11:35 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: Assuming this just ins't possible in the real world but I thought I'd throw it at the list and see if anyone knew of anything even if it cost an arm an and a leg.  Obviously wireless, fiber wo

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-19 Thread Sean Heskett
you can either have the siklu route traffic out the other SFP+ port when certain conditions are met or you can have the siklu drop the port and let OSPF or other routing protocol handle the switchover. On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 1:44 PM Josh Baird wrote: > Do you do this by configuring the Siklu

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-19 Thread Adam Moffett
:* Tuesday, February 19, 2019 3:16 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles? Do Light optics On 2/19/19 11:35 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: Assuming this just ins't possible in the real world but I thought I'd throw it at the list and see if anyone knew of anything even

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-19 Thread Chuck McCown
Arrgh, flashback, bad ptsd from 1990 in Mexico City. Lasers from high rise banking buildings to other high rise banking buildings. Building move. From: dave Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 3:16 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles? Do Light optics On 2

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-19 Thread dave
Do Light optics On 2/19/19 11:35 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: Assuming this just ins't possible in the real world but I thought I'd throw it at the list and see if anyone knew of anything even if it cost an arm an and a leg.  Obviously wireless, fiber would be too easy. -- Carl Peterson

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-19 Thread Josh Baird
Do you do this by configuring the Siklu to drop its data interface at a certain modulation? > On Feb 19, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > > we aren't in rain zone K. we are in NW Colorado > > also if the link drops below 650Mbps then the network switches over the the > SAF Integra-W

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-19 Thread Sean Heskett
we aren't in rain zone K. we are in NW Colorado also if the link drops below 650Mbps then the network switches over the the SAF Integra-W 18GHz link (which has never happened). it has modulated down to 1gbps for a few minutes during a rain storm but hasn't completely dropped. On Tue, Feb 19,

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-19 Thread Mathew Howard
According to Siklu's LBC, that's a lot of downtime... how long have you had it up? On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 1:33 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > we have a siklu EH-8010FX on 2' dishes running at 10Gbps at 5miles. we > also have a backup SAF Integra-W 18GHz on the same path in case of rain > fade

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-19 Thread Sean Heskett
we have a siklu EH-8010FX on 2' dishes running at 10Gbps at 5miles. we also have a backup SAF Integra-W 18GHz on the same path in case of rain fade (which hasn't been necessary but that link was already in place so we just left it there as backup) -sean On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 10:37 AM Carl

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-19 Thread Carl Peterson
It is for a customer of ours. If it were for me, I would just lease dark and add 80Ghz at the ends which is likely how this will end up. On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:04 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > You could probably do it with SIAE or Bridgewave navigator a fair amount > cheaper, but it would

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-19 Thread Mathew Howard
You could probably do it with SIAE or Bridgewave navigator a fair amount cheaper, but it would still need to be the same configuration. I suspect running fiber would be cheaper. A more realistic way to do it, would be to spit it into a few hops and use 80ghz (of course that only works if there

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-19 Thread Adam Moffett
Multiple links. Eight PTP820's or Ceragon IP20C (which are the same thing), all XPIC, and all on the maximum channel size.  Probably a blend of both 18ghz and 11ghz in order to find enough channels. You'll have a total of 16 chains which will be a little over 600mbps each.  So just about

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-19 Thread Colin Stanners
Assuming that you're OK with splitting the traffic across 2 links, a pair of DT Bridgewave Nagivators + all the spectrum known to man (slight exaggeration). On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:37 AM Carl Peterson wrote: > Assuming this just ins't possible in the real world but I thought I'd > throw it

[AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-19 Thread Carl Peterson
Assuming this just ins't possible in the real world but I thought I'd throw it at the list and see if anyone knew of anything even if it cost an arm an and a leg. Obviously wireless, fiber would be too easy. -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202