Re: [AFMUG] Epmp Test tool UDP or TCP?

2014-09-29 Thread Sakid Ahmed via Af
Its UDP - Thanks Sakid From: af@afmug.com [mailto:af@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Epmp Test tool UDP or TCP? What protocol is used? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

2014-09-29 Thread Sakid Ahmed via Af
Gino, Yes, we are working on some solutions for lowering latency. More on that in the near future. Sakid From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+sakid.ahmed=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:13 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variablescodeinjection attack

2014-09-29 Thread Shayne Lebrun via Af
Originally, I responded to this: Ø “I think the articles have maybe overstated the risk a bit, since you would need to either authenticate (at least as a regular user) to get to a shell, or find a publicly exposed script that will pass an environment variable to bash for you. And asked you

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

2014-09-29 Thread Sakid Ahmed via Af
Jeremy, If you happen to have 4 channels available then you are on the right path in designing one tower with ABAB and then the next with CDCD with the directions of neighboring same channel sectors pointing away from each other if possible. Yes, frequency front/back does go away in the

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

2014-09-29 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Great!! Thanks Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!! On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Sakid Ahmed via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Gino, Yes, we are working on some solutions for lowering latency. More on that in the near future. Sakid From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Workers Compensation Premiums

2014-09-29 Thread Jon Langeler via Af
The Hartford. Would have to look everything up... Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Sep 29, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Darin Steffl via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Bump. Anyone? Thanks On Friday, September 26, 2014, Darin Steffl via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hey all, What are you paying for

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Workers Compensation Premiums

2014-09-29 Thread Darin Steffl via Af
That brings another question. What insurance rate code is tower climbing under and also just a normal installer for residential and business installations? My insurance guy had a hard time finding codes to classify us under. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Brian Gilbreth - CVALINK

Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower?

2014-09-29 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Ahem Tesla's fused thoughts before Marconi stole them. Jaime Solorza On Sep 27, 2014 12:16 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower 30-40w total power Cat5 using multiple pairs or 2 conductor cable? We are inclined on cat 5 for

Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower?

2014-09-29 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
We have been installing sensors down 600 ft well pipes that are 24vdc on current project. Cable looks like heavy jacketed Cat 5 with three leads and a strong pull guide inside. That connects to box outside the control room and about 15 more feet via conduit to RTU panel Jaime Solorza On Sep

[AFMUG] ePMP Wireless Scan

2014-09-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Is there any way for an ePMP radio to scan the air and tell you what SSIDs it sees? I'm trying to align two backhauls that when pointed roughly the same direction... can't see each other. I don't want to just move it slightly and wait for the web interface to show it connected... or not. I

Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower?

2014-09-29 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
We have been installing sensors down 600 ft well pipes that are 24vdc on current project. Cable looks like heavy jacketed Cat 5 with three leads and a strong pull guide inside. That connects to box outside the control room Jaime Solorza On Sep 27, 2014 12:16 PM, Gino Villarini via Af

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Wireless Scan

2014-09-29 Thread Paul McCall via Af
Wireless, Monitor should show you that. Tools, eDetect will show you the signal strength of anything on the channel by MAC only. Might help you get close… ePMP MACs start with 00:04. From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Monday,

Re: [AFMUG] standard 900 MHz Canopy channels

2014-09-29 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
OK, thanks. From: Shayne Lebrun via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] standard 900 MHz Canopy channels 906,915,924 are the way to go. Properly synced Canopy needs no guardband. Properly synced ePMP needs 5mhz guardband. Unsynced anything

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Wireless Scan

2014-09-29 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
Oh, I miss the days when I had smartBridges backhauls and they couldn’t display all the SSIDs they saw, they’d pick up the hotspot at a Flying J 50 miles away. You get 100 feet off the ground and you see everybody’s Linksys for miles around. I guess if you’re in a 10 MHz channel it would

[AFMUG] Cambium Networks and Shellshock (CVE-2014-6271

2014-09-29 Thread Scott Imhoff via Af
All, Cambium has posted a statement on Shellshock vulnerability on our support website at http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/support/shellshock ; and copied below. Scott Cambium Networks Devices Are Not Vulnerable to Shellshock

[AFMUG] iOS update = Expedited Forwarding?

2014-09-29 Thread Adam Moffett via Af
Has anyone else noticed that lots of traffic from Apple 17.0.0.0/8 has DSCP 46 set? Canopy users with iPhones may find that the update is interfering with their regular internet usage unless you take measures to de-prioritize that.

Re: [AFMUG] standard 900 MHz Canopy channels

2014-09-29 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
I have several sites with KP 120's doing ABAB. A couple of the sites are pretty close to each other and it was necessary to have one site using 906 and 924 and the other on 910 and 920. Non-colocated 4MHz carrier offset doesn't always work, for example, one SM was seeing a 924 and a 920 sector

Re: [AFMUG] iOS update = Expedited Forwarding?

2014-09-29 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
You must have a carrier that doesn't zero the DSCP field. I both like and hate that at the same time. On 9/29/2014 11:11 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: Has anyone else noticed that lots of traffic from Apple 17.0.0.0/8 has DSCP 46 set? Canopy users with iPhones may find that the update is

Re: [AFMUG] iOS update = Expedited Forwarding?

2014-09-29 Thread Adam Moffett via Af
Me too. On the one hand, VoIP from Ring Central and some others comes through with an appropriate DSCP tag. On the other hand, so do iOS updates for some reason. On 9/29/2014 12:24 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: You must have a carrier that doesn't zero the DSCP

Re: [AFMUG] iOS update = Expedited Forwarding?

2014-09-29 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I assumed most upstreams cleared the DSCP tags for transit traffic across their networks. Apparently that was an incorrect assumption. It sure opens up the potential for apps, malware, and pesky customers to abuse it. Cool, I can tag all my traffic high priority! -Original

Re: [AFMUG] iOS update = Expedited Forwarding?

2014-09-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Because everything that Apple does is oh so important. bp On 9/29/2014 9:11 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: Has anyone else noticed that lots of traffic from Apple 17.0.0.0/8 has DSCP 46 set? Canopy users with iPhones may find that the update is interfering with their regular internet usage

[AFMUG] What is Stuck VC, and is there anything I can do about it?

2014-09-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Customer's SM went off line for almost two hours, and my only clue (besides it appearing off line from my end too) was this in the log file on the SM: 09/26/2014 : 09:50:06 PDT : :Timezone set to PDT 09/28/2014 : 13:44:26 PDT : :Stuck VC cleared (VC38) 09/28/2014 : 13:48:24 PDT : :XO

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variablescodeinjection attack

2014-09-29 Thread Shayne Lebrun via Af
Oh, and you mentioned a BlueQuartz server. Looks like there are options, including: http://www.blueonyx.it/, which seems to include migrating from BlueQuartz. From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+slebrun=muskoka@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:55 PM

Re: [AFMUG] What is Stuck VC, and is there anything I can do about it?

2014-09-29 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
Used to be an issue in 900 mhz sms i actually helped discover ; a stuck VC was a stuck virtual channel that would cause an SM to remain offline until the SM was rebooted. They added code in at some point to check for that and clear the stuck vc so the SM didn't have to be rebooted anymore.

[AFMUG] Pipe clamps and tower mount suppliers

2014-09-29 Thread Darin Steffl via Af
Hey guys, We are looking for a reasonably priced source for pipe to pipe clamps and other hardware to attach our mounts to towers and railings on grain legs, etc. We are looking to strengthen our future tower builds and move up from our more amateur way of attaching pipes to our tower structures.

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variablescodeinjection attack

2014-09-29 Thread Matt via Af
Only time I have had issues with yum update is when there are third party repositories. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You're right, yum updates are probably a problem for those pesky RedHat/Centos distros. Move to debian :P Josh Reynolds, Chief

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variablescodeinjection attack

2014-09-29 Thread Timothy D. McNabb via Af
TBH there is one thing I love most about a CentOS distro over Windows. IPTables. Windows firewall is pretty lame in comparison, with open ports you will “possibly” use. At least IP tables initially comes with a “block all” setup and you just go in and poke the tiny holes you need. Obviously a

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe clamps and tower mount suppliers

2014-09-29 Thread Matt Jenkins via Af
Wireless Beehive Tower Mounts will fit 90% of your needs. Most major WISP suppliers carry them. http://wbmfg.com/products.cfm?CID=3 Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/29/2014 10:31 AM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote: Hey guys, We are looking for a reasonably

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe clamps and tower mount suppliers

2014-09-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
get your pipes from local plumbing shop, much cheaper than distributors we found. I realised you can do this when site pro forgot to wipe off the printing on the pipe and it was the same thing the plumber carried. we use UPC-1 to do standoffs on all 4 corners of grain legs, the 90 degree angle

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe clamps and tower mount suppliers

2014-09-29 Thread Seth Mattinen via Af
On 9/29/14, 10:41, That One Guy via Af wrote: get your pipes from local plumbing shop, much cheaper than distributors we found. I realised you can do this when site pro forgot to wipe off the printing on the pipe and it was the same thing the plumber carried. Or fence supply shop. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] 477 filing - delayed?

2014-09-29 Thread Jay Weekley via Af
And still down. Patrick Wheeland via Af wrote: I have one last form to submit and it's still down. :-/ On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Randy Cosby via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: The Form 477 filing interface is temporarily unavailable. We have identified an issue

Re: [AFMUG] iOS update = Expedited Forwarding?

2014-09-29 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
side-note: You should be stripping incoming DSCP tags at each of your WAN feeds. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/29/2014 08:11 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: Has anyone else noticed that lots of traffic from Apple

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe clamps and tower mount suppliers

2014-09-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
We get them from a local fence supply. They stock most gauges, all galvanized, and in lengths up to 22 or 24 feet. bp On 9/29/2014 10:43 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote: On 9/29/14, 10:41, That One Guy via Af wrote: get your pipes from local plumbing shop, much cheaper than distributors we

[AFMUG] gige apc for all

2014-09-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
the application sheet shows gigeapc hv for everything now even the 320 ap, is there any major reason not to use these across the board son the numskulls dont have to look at the application chart to swap a card? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you

Re: [AFMUG] gige apc for all

2014-09-29 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
Maybe if you like the red and green LEDs? I have to admit they’re useful. From: That One Guy via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] gige apc for all the application sheet shows gigeapc hv for everything now even the 320 ap, is there any major

Re: [AFMUG] gige apc for all

2014-09-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Right. Load and current LEDs are the only things you get from the others. And they are restricted to specific POE configurations. I highly recommend GigE SS HV /APC for everything. From: Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] gige

Re: [AFMUG] gige apc for all

2014-09-29 Thread Josh Baird via Af
Yeah, I wish the GigeAPCs had the red/green LEDs, too. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Maybe if you like the red and green LEDs? I have to admit they’re useful. *From:* That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, September 29, 2014 1:09 PM

[AFMUG] SiteMonitor: Loss of sync

2014-09-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
One of our many locations where we're using a Packetflux sync pipe/injector seems to be losing satellite lock once every few days. Typically it loses it for 2 to 4 seconds, but I've seen at least once where it went 13 seconds. I've not been able to get useful information from the

Re: [AFMUG] gige apc for all

2014-09-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Everybody seems to have their own ideas on POE wiring. Hard to pick the DC off of GigE POE without using a transformer, and that drives the cost up. Non transformer methods will interfere with the data a bit. From: Josh Baird via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:17 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-craftedenvironment variablescodeinjection attack

2014-09-29 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
FWIW, there is a *new* bash CVE out today. Time to upgrade again :) Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/29/2014 10:08 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: Scary, looking at my bookshelf I see boxes for RHL 8.0 and RHEL 2, 3 and 4.

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-craftedenvironment variablescodeinjection attack

2014-09-29 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
Supposedly bash has been vulnerable since around 1992. That’s 22 years. You want to tell me no one, absolutely no one (not even the NSA) has found and exploited this previously? And not shared it publicly? From: Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:56 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] 477 filing - delayed?

2014-09-29 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
*http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/form-477-resources-filers * The deadline for the submission of data as of June 30, 2014 has been extended https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1409A1.pdf beyond October 1. Once the site reopens, we will announce the new filing deadline. *If I'm

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-craftedenvironment variablescodeinjection attack

2014-09-29 Thread Shayne Lebrun via Af
If you’re a bad guy, and you found it, you wouldn’t advertise it. If you’re a good guy, well, somebody found it by poking at it. But yes, it’s 22 years old. There’s a 25 year old X11 bug that came out a few months back. The Heartbleed bug had been there a while, too, and was, in part, due

[AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question

2014-09-29 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question

2014-09-29 Thread Gerard Dupont III via Af
We do the Beehive APC surges. Gerard On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question

2014-09-29 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change blown supressors.. Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Reply-To:

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question

2014-09-29 Thread Ty Featherling via Af
That is why we haven't used surge protection for tower-top switches. If I were using more expensive switches up there I might reconsider. -Ty On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question

2014-09-29 Thread Eric Rogers via Af
We use Cisco 2955T and a fiber converter. We don't use surge suppression, but we also ground the shielding as it enters the metal box (don't use plastic up top). Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino

Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower?

2014-09-29 Thread Gerard Dupont III via Af
Our Top boxes usually contain the following. 1x Sitemonitor 2x GigabitSyncInjectors 1x Citel DS210-48DC 2x Traco TCL 060-124 DC Down Convertors - http://www.tracopower.com/products/tcl-dc.pdf 1x RB2011 2x APC PRM4 Surge Chasis 8x GigEAPC-HV Gerard On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Chuck Hogg

Re: [AFMUG] SiteMonitor: Loss of sync

2014-09-29 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
A little out of order: On the OID's .. you may have the wrong OID. There is an oid for the title strings, and an oid for the value. You may want to check the oid you are using. In addition, on the strings tab, there *are* strings which list the specific statellite and signal strength of all

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question

2014-09-29 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
The 450 is PoE compliant how? On 9/29/2014 3:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question

2014-09-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Ohhh. Yeah... Or perhaps just a subscription service. You buy blocks of spikes. When it is used up the surge suppressor goes into a failure mode. Send the unit back to me to get reloaded with fresh spike protection. $10 shipping and handling. 3 cents per spike protection, purchased in

[AFMUG] Powering a PTP250

2014-09-29 Thread Paul McCall via Af
Is there an easy way to power up (and run) a PTP250 other than the built in power supply ? I don't mind getting creative if need be. Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell

[AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af
Anyone see this? http://posttrib.suntimes.com/30167722-537/flight-delays-to-continue-after-arson.html#.VCnNuOeXtGE http://www.metafilter.com/143174/ATCSCC-ADVZY-020-DCC-ZAU-09-26-2014-ZAU-GROUND-STOP On Friday, ATCSCC Advisory 20 of 26-Sep-2014 went out. When operators, controllers and

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
Oh yeah, I'm in Chicago for a few days. Flew in on thursday before this happened. My wife flew in on Saturday and ended up with a nasty delay in MSP since there were very very few flights flying into the affected area, which basically includes both chicago airports, and the two airports up in

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Harris employee. Fired now Jaime Solorza On Sep 29, 2014 3:36 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Oh yeah, I'm in Chicago for a few days. Flew in on thursday before this happened. My wife flew in on Saturday and ended up with a nasty delay in MSP since there

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af
considering they found him underneath a table with a knife in hand actively trying to cut his own throat, i think being fired is the least of that guy's problems right now. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Harris employee. Fired now Jaime Solorza On

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread Nate Burke via Af
This is only a couple miles from our office. They had all the local news choppers up in the air over it on Friday. I was surprised that it didn't garner more national coverage. I guess since it wasn't the terror threat of the day, it didn't get any traction. Just a disgruntled employee.

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
im going with isis on this On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This is only a couple miles from our office. They had all the local news choppers up in the air over it on Friday. I was surprised that it didn't garner more national coverage. I guess since

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question

2014-09-29 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Industrial switch is a good option Jaime Solorza On Sep 29, 2014 3:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was thinking more in the lines of putting a ctm1 on top with the SW, the remote resettable surge suppressors of the CTM would save lots of downtime and climbs Gino A.

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
Damn, why couldn't it be Durbin that slit his own throat. On 9/29/2014 5:04 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: im going with isis on this On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: This is only a couple miles from our office. They had all the

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question

2014-09-29 Thread Shayne Lebrun via Af
SSaaS: Surge Supression as a Service. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Conlin via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question If you don't have a surge suppressor then you need a tower

Re: [AFMUG] Fall colors

2014-09-29 Thread Matt Jenkins via Af
I am having serious tower envy right now. Your coverage potential is astounding! Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/29/2014 12:20 PM, Sean Heskett via Af wrote: i thought y'all might enjoy some pics from one of our towers.

Re: [AFMUG] Fall colors

2014-09-29 Thread Jay Weekley via Af
That's what I was thinking. Matt Jenkins via Af wrote: I am having serious tower envy right now. Your coverage potential is astounding! Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/29/2014 12:20 PM, Sean Heskett via Af wrote: i thought y'all might enjoy some pics from

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
+1 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:07:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

Re: [AFMUG] Fall colors

2014-09-29 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Thank you. Very nice Jaime Solorza On Sep 29, 2014 1:20 PM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: i thought y'all might enjoy some pics from one of our towers.

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Do you live under a bridge? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:23:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Trolling two people that clearly do not think highly of our senior senator. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:27:31 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread Jason McKemie via Af
Well, if that's the case, then it was a troll of a troll :-) On Monday, September 29, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Trolling two people that clearly do not think highly of our senior senator. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Powering a PTP250

2014-09-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I believe that the PTP250 is 802.3af. In places where we have 24VDC plant, we have used a Tycon TP-DCDC-2448GD-HP. They make other versions/voltages depending on what you need. bp On 9/29/2014 2:15 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: Is there an easy way to power up (and run) a PTP250 other

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
count me in for one trolling please Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/29/2014 05:02 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: i want in on the trolling On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG list option being considered

2014-09-29 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
Yay Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] AFMUG list option being considered Date: Mon, Sep 29, 2014 8:20 PM Guys, As some of you are aware, PDMNet’s behind the scenes

Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG list option being considered

2014-09-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
What will we need to do? Unsubscribe/resubscribe or just reply to the authentication(s)? bp On 9/29/2014 6:20 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: Guys, As some of you are aware, PDMNet's behind the scenes management of the AFMUG list as a service to Chuck McCown and his companies, involves

Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG list option being considered

2014-09-29 Thread Paul McCall via Af
Just reply to the authentication request... that's all From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 9:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG list option being considered What will we need to do? Unsubscribe/resubscribe or

Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG list option being considered

2014-09-29 Thread Paul McCall via Af
Of course, your mail client, SPAM filter, may put the request in a folder... Gmail seems to pick some random other folder to put the request in... indiscriminately From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 9:34 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG list option being considered

2014-09-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
will my leg hurt when its over On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Of course, your mail client, SPAM filter, may put the request in a folder… Gmail seems to pick some random other folder to put the request in… indiscriminately *From:* Af

Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG list option being considered

2014-09-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
If you want it to, just find a rock and hit your leg with it. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 8:40:57 PM

Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG list option being considered

2014-09-29 Thread Paul McCall via Af
Only if you’re doing it right ! ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 9:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG list option being considered will my leg hurt when its over On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Paul

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
I'm pretty skeptical of partisans and career politicians. Term limits.. but it will never happen. Do a couple terms and then go home and work like everyone else. No, instead they sit there for decades milking connections to get rich and exempt themselves from the laws they force upon us, then

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread Jason McKemie via Af
I don't disagree about politicians, but that is more of a general thing and isn't specific to Durbin. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:27 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I'm pretty skeptical of partisans and career politicians. Term limits.. but it will never

Re: [AFMUG] Fall colors

2014-09-29 Thread Chris Fabien via Af
Nice view of town, what are the big lumpy things on the far side of town? Sincerely, Chris from pancake-flat-land. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It's currently a dragonwave 18ghz that runs at about 350mbps but we are installing this week a new dual

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread Tyler Treat via Af
.this. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Sep 29, 2014, at 9:27 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
It would be much better if instead of payroll, all employers just kicked all revenue into the kitty and the government could hand it out based on each persons need On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Tyler Treat via Af af@afmug.com wrote: .this. ___ Mangled by my

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread Glen Waldrop via Af
If we push it'll happen. Won't be easy. We'll have to convince them to vote on killing their golden goose. - Original Message - From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on

Re: [AFMUG] Ptp600/650 poe schematic

2014-09-29 Thread TJ Trout via Af
go to another site and probe it with a patch cable cut and a volt meter On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I remember it was on the manual, can't find it Need to ditch the pidu Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!!

Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter

2014-09-29 Thread Glen Waldrop via Af
Don't mistake soft words for a lack of conviction or naively believing the system works. We run this country. We have to remind everyone of that. Those morons in office work for us, not the other way around. Right now they work for themselves with little to no oversight. Anyway, I've spoken