Re: [AFMUG] powercode assistance.

Is the router the Mikrotik Hotspot? Your issue is your network I expect. Need details as to what IP your router is and what IP the BMU is. Are these devices adjacent or is there a router in between? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC and -48 radio

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Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC and -48 radio

I like 'em all. I think I married a blonde, but she has been a redhead at times. Not really sure. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 7:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC and -48 radio I prefer blonde chicks. My mom says they're

[AFMUG] powercode assistance.

I have a situation with a mikrotik hotspot on a network that is on a private address scheme, behind powercode. The user manager is on a public IP address in front of powercode. The router cant traceroute to the user manager, and it cant contact the public world. My powercode configurations are a l

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC and -48 radio

I prefer blonde chicks. My mom says they're high maintenance though. On 8/19/2016 7:09 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Why disparage blondes? Maybe a Ryan Lochte moment? -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-A

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

True, but there's connectorized. Antenna is connected to tower steel. On 8/19/2016 7:53 PM, Bill Prince wrote: No plastic Canopy SM has anything tied to chassis. They float. bp On 8/19/2016 4:32 PM, George Skorup wrote: Every MikroTik, UBNT and Canopy radio I've ever used bonds board/chassis

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

No plastic Canopy SM has anything tied to chassis. They float. bp On 8/19/2016 4:32 PM, George Skorup wrote: Every MikroTik, UBNT and Canopy radio I've ever used bonds board/chassis to ground. And those are definitely negative ground. On 8/19/2016 6:27 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Are they tr

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

I remember some TVs had a warning sticker on the back about hot chassis. I had a big home made discharge probe thingy. Couple pieces of broom stick for handles. Bored through the middles for a wire. Bare wire sticking out the ends. One to chassis and slide the probe wire up under the anode rub

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC and -48 radio

Why disparage blondes? Maybe a Ryan Lochte moment? -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC and -48 radio No, it's not confusing the way it is now. I just had a blonde moment. Obviously if you p

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC and -48 radio

I see what you mean. Right. I tried this yesterday with a spare Trango ApexPlus on the bench. All pairs jumped to negative. Shield tied back to the + terminal. Radio worked. Green LED on the card was on. Yeah, if I took the shield/drain directly to the power supply, and removed the + wire from

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

Around 1976 I worked for a company that made OEM TV sets for Sears and KMart. We never had one with a hot chassis, I would have remembered that. I do remember that one of the high voltage designers electrocuted himself. At home. On his ham radio setup. I never got used to discharging the se

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC and -48 radio

OK, I presume if you put all pins to -48 you only be connecting a single -48 wire. If you connect a return, then yes the LEDS will light but not necessarily mean anything. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 5:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFM

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC and -48 radio

No, it's not confusing the way it is now. I just had a blonde moment. >>Obviously if you put all pins to the -48 no leds will come on. See, now that's confusing. I removed all jumpers and put positive to the +, negative to - as you have them marked and the green LED still lights up. Reverse t

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

My impression is that anything powered by an 802.3af/at POE needs to be agnostic about grounding of the input, have its own floating input switching power supply, after which they can ground whatever they want. Trust but verify. It's kind of confusing, it seems the POE is supposed to use +48V

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

TVs used to have a hot chassis. They were in a wooden box though... -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 5:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v I understand why an an engineer using a RF device would do that, they want zero impedan

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

I understand why an an engineer using a RF device would do that, they want zero impedance from the RF ground to the rest of the world. You can still DC isolate it but it takes a little bit of doing at microwave frequencies. If you choose 48 volts as a design engineer, you are choosing a voltage

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

Every MikroTik, UBNT and Canopy radio I've ever used bonds board/chassis to ground. And those are definitely negative ground. On 8/19/2016 6:27 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Are they truly +48 or just 48? -Original Message- From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 4:

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

Are they truly +48 or just 48? -Original Message- From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 4:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v I looked it up, you are correct that everything you listed is +48v. The CCR uses a bullet connector so there is

Re: [AFMUG] OT: just WTF

Yep, a referendum on the process, not the reefer madness. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: just WTF I’m not sure that’s a correct reading of the article. This was a state job, I’m guessing with a union contract that included ar

[AFMUG] Something new

https://youtu.be/s32uO9zQgEI Sorry about the lousy audio. This shows testing of a prototype mag mount accessory to our tower mounts. I think I can improve on this but it starts to cut loose at about 100-120 lbs of force. So I would not rate it over 50 lbs. If there were 4 of these on one of our

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

Might want to check, but all the Dragonwave radios that I've ever touched used -48V, but did not connect the return to the chassis. IOW, the return is isolated from the chassis (AKA "floating"). So it probably can be used along side some +48V equipment. bp On 8/19/2016 3:41 PM, Gilbert T. G

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

48 vs +48 vs -48. I am wondering how many truly +48 things are out there people are using. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 2:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v AF5 and 24's. Virtually any 802.3af or at device. Multiple Mikr

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

I looked it up, you are correct that everything you listed is +48v. The CCR uses a bullet connector so there is no ground from the power source but since it can also be powered via PoE, I expect it to be +48. The site has a Dragon Wave and that old Cambium radio that are both -48v. Oh the joys

Re: [AFMUG] OT: just WTF

I think arbitration goes both ways. If both parties have agreed to arbitration, I think they both are obliged to comply with the ruling. bp On 8/19/2016 2:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I’m not sure that’s a correct reading of the article. This was a state job, I’m guessing with a union contract th

Re: [AFMUG] OT: just WTF

True. But once Gary Johnson is elected President ... -Original Message- From: Christopher Tyler Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 4:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: just WTF And it was the state supreme court not the US Supreme court that ruled. So only applied to Connect

Re: [AFMUG] OT: just WTF

And it was the state supreme court not the US Supreme court that ruled. So only applied to Connecticut anyway. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 1

Re: [AFMUG] OT: just WTF

I’m not sure that’s a correct reading of the article. This was a state job, I’m guessing with a union contract that included arbitration? The arbitrator said he should not be fired but rather be suspended without pay for 6 months and be subject to random drug testing for a year. The lower cou

Re: [AFMUG] OT: just WTF

Yikes... You probably just ripped one wing off flies when you were young.. Gave them false hope On Aug 19, 2016 3:25 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > probably cheaper to push the dope fiend off a tower and let the insurance > pay out the death benefit > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 4:20 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: just WTF

probably cheaper to push the dope fiend off a tower and let the insurance pay out the death benefit On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Yep. You have provide medical and rehab assistance sometimes... > > On Aug 19, 2016 3:17 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < > thatoneguyst...@g

[AFMUG] Pmp430 5.7 sm's for sale with power supply

$30 ea with old style psu. Have many available.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: just WTF

Yep. You have provide medical and rehab assistance sometimes... On Aug 19, 2016 3:17 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/court- > rules-for-connecticut-state-worker-fired-for-smoking-pot/ > 2016/08/19/d4122b74-6630-11e6-be4e-23fc4d4d12b4_story.h

[AFMUG] OT: just WTF

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/court-rules-for-connecticut-state-worker-fired-for-smoking-pot/2016/08/19/d4122b74-6630-11e6-be4e-23fc4d4d12b4_story.html The supreme court has now ruled that you cant actually fire an employee for doing drugs in your company vehicles and getting arr

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

I should have bought Apple stock when I first knew what a stock was... What's going on here I'm defending Ubiquiti. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > They should have done wiz-

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

AF5 and 24's. Virtually any 802.3af or at device. Multiple MikroTik products. Other UBNT stuff. I'm sure there's more. On 8/19/2016 11:11 AM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: I believe both my Netonix Switch and Mikrotik CCR both are +48v. Gilbert On 8/19/2016 7:06 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Cu

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

They should have done wiz-bang features first, backwards compat later. Or, just not announced 3 hardware revisions so fast, there's that to. At least AF line is solid. EdgeOS line is getting there, just needs mpls done in hardware and a few new 10G models. On Aug 19, 2016 3:09 PM, "Josh Luthman"

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

Blah blah blah I'm losing bet blah =P Everyone makes mistakes. Making improvements is all you can really ask of anyone or a company. I'm sure you've had that one employee that you should have fired earlier but didn't for one reason or another. If they can pull it off I'd be incredibly shocked a

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

They're slower than Christmas. Been stuck a year on interop, hacked off an RF team, and then did better in a few months than the other team did in a year. It's sad, really. On Aug 19, 2016 3:00 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > "Before August was the bet" > > But I'll give you an extra 11 days because

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

"Before August was the bet" But I'll give you an extra 11 days because I'm such a nice guy =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Hey, there's still a week! > > On Aug 19, 2016 2

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

Hey, there's still a week! On Aug 19, 2016 2:52 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > And no sync... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Josh Reynolds > wrote: > >> Yep :) >> >> On Aug 19, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

And no sync... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Yep :) > > On Aug 19, 2016 2:41 PM, "Josh Luthman" > wrote: > >> Hey Reynolds. It's August. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 9

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

Yep :) On Aug 19, 2016 2:41 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Hey Reynolds. It's August. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:21 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > >> Bunch of people had the NDA the last

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

Hey Reynolds. It's August. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Bunch of people had the NDA the last swing. We'll see in August! > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Props to Netonix

What NOT to do is try and attach GPS as a side-kit to an existing TDMA protocol. That was a terrible idea. On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Looks like IEEE 1588v2 is more complicated than that, more like NTP. Or > telco Stratum clocks. > > It may assume each client has a free

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Props to Netonix

Looks like IEEE 1588v2 is more complicated than that, more like NTP. Or telco Stratum clocks. It may assume each client has a free running clock and just needs periodic timing adjustments to keep it in sync with the master. I guess an example of what NOT to do is that thing Ubiquiti tried.

[AFMUG] Fw: Props to Netonix

Well, that assumes every baud would be a timing pulse. I think you could do that on the physical layer OK. Just make one end GPS referenced and use some kind of sync extractor. Count up 125,000,000 bauds and you have one second. -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday,

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

With GigE, you are sending 125 Mbaud. So that would be an 8 nanosecond timing granularity. Should be good enough. Forrest would know for certain. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 1:11 PM To: af@afmug.com ; af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Props to Ne

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

Sounds like it may be applicable or in use for LTE small cell deployment? http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/network-timing-for-the-3g-and-4glte-small-cell-backhaul-the-future-is-here/ -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 2:11 PM To: af@afmug.com ; af@af

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

Maybe, but in more general terms it propagates a clocking signal across ethernet. I don't think there's any reason it couldn't be used to propagate a 1pps GPS clock. Like any good standard, there's more than one to choose from. You have an ITU and IEEE variant that do the same thing only di

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

I used to bounce around and see every booth but anymore it's just hard to really elevate one product over the other without having it. It's a lot of money to have and try those products. It's cheaper to let other people test them out for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-234

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

I normally stagger to all of them after the first night. :P On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Josh only makes it to 2 or 3 booths per show. ;-) > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

There are a lot of booths. There are a lot of products at those booths. That's like saying every single product at every single booth is fantastic... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Josh Reynolds wr

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

Josh only makes it to 2 or 3 booths per show. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 1:42:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pro

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

Hey, you keep Bitlomat out of this... They are nice folks. On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > There are a lot of booths. There are a lot of products at those booths. > That's like saying every single product at every single booth is > fantastic... > > > Josh Luthman > Office

[AFMUG] ePMP 1000 2.4 integrated and Allot Netenforcer for sale

I still have the following items for sale. Offers accepted 9 New ePMP 1000 integrated 2.4Ghz in original box 70.00ea 6 New ePMP 1000 integrated 2.4Ghz no box 70.00ea 8 Used ePMP 1000 integrated 2.4Ghz 50.00ea 1 Allot NetEnforcer AC-1440 Make offer 1 Allot NetEnforcer Bypass

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

Isn't SyncE for supporting Telco/TDM circuits over ethernet/microwave networks? On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > That would seem to be a non trivial addition, and vendor specific. > > What is the status of radio manufacturers adding SyncE support? I really > don’t know anythi

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

It's not like he hasn't had a booth at shows. That seems to be how many find out about new packetflux products (for example). On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > To be fair there's a million products that come out and not everyone has the > time to test all of them to find the

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

That would seem to be a non trivial addition, and vendor specific. What is the status of radio manufacturers adding SyncE support? I really don’t know anything about SyncE, but that seems like the way we should be heading. Does SyncE apply to optical interfaces also? From: Eric Muehleisen S

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

For only PMP100 and PMP450 that's a hard sale. Might argue ePMP but I feel Chris would just tell everyone else to use integrated GPS like he does. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Eric Muehleisen wro

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

And isolated DC input so we could run them at -48 without DC-DC converters On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > Cherry on the top would be the ability to provide sync over power. > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Erich Kaiser > wrote: > >> In all my years of doing this t

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

Cherry on the top would be the ability to provide sync over power. On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote: > In all my years of doing this this is the most impressed I am with an item > out of the box, I am very impressed with the Netonix switches, very simple > to use, great featur

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

To be fair there's a million products that come out and not everyone has the time to test all of them to find the good ones. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > It's nice the AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] Props to Netonix

It's nice the AFMUG crowd is finally seeing this after the past 3-4 years. On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote: > In all my years of doing this this is the most impressed I am with an item > out of the box, I am very impressed with the Netonix switches, very simple > to use, great

[AFMUG] Props to Netonix

In all my years of doing this this is the most impressed I am with an item out of the box, I am very impressed with the Netonix switches, very simple to use, great features, and best of all it works as advertised! Having the variable voltage input on DC version is absolutely awesome! Keep up the

Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

v is 2 pair power while vh has power on all pairs, though it self detects so it may allow 2 pair power. The switch is capable of 1.5amps in vh mode while only .75 in v. Gilbert On 8/19/2016 9:09 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: H would probably mean “High” power? What does the VH mean? Or what i

Re: [AFMUG] Telescoping Mast me lil brudder made

This one goes 28 ft.One he is making me will go 40 On Aug 19, 2016 8:06 AM, "Ty Featherling" wrote: > Great pictures Jaime. How heavy is it? And what is the max height? > > > > -Ty > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> This is his prototype he is letting use for s

Re: [AFMUG] Telescoping Mast me lil brudder made

Super light My amp head weighs 32 and this is way lighter... I will ask On Aug 19, 2016 8:06 AM, "Ty Featherling" wrote: Great pictures Jaime. How heavy is it? And what is the max height? -Ty On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > This is his prototype he is letting us

Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

24 Volt-hours -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 8/19/2016 12:23:14 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S? You thought it was 24 vertical horizons didn't you? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 13

Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

You thought it was 24 vertical horizons didn't you? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 12:18 PM, wrote: > Oh, I thought perhaps it was Vertical voltage vs Horizontal voltage > > *From:* Faisal Imtiaz > *Se

Re: [AFMUG] BPL / Homeplug

Subpanels add another level of separation. Typically all the neutrals are bonded to ground in the subpanel, which then get bonded again in the main panel. I can't help but think that the bonding in the subpanel will attenuate the signal getting to the main panel. If the two outlets are both goi

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

With the device unplugged, measure resistance from the - input to either the chassis or to the ground connection if it has one. If you get little or no resistance then you're definitely looking at +48v. I don't think that's definitive though...there could be a "ground" bus on the circuit boar

Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

Oh, I thought perhaps it was Vertical voltage vs Horizontal voltage From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S? V = Volts ? 24VH = 24V high Power 24V = 24V (regular power) :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet

Re: [AFMUG] BPL / Homeplug

Different protocols. 2.4 GHz in WiFi is limited to some distance, hardware limited to something like 32km. 2.4 GHz isn't limited to 20 miles. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] BPL / Homeplug

Yeah the total wire distance. Understood. This utility room has it's own subpanel which is newer than the rest of the wiring in the building. If they made a new home run for this sub panel then it might be 100+ feet of extra wire to get there. I've read the best case distance for homeplug i

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

I believe both my Netonix Switch and Mikrotik CCR both are +48v. Gilbert On 8/19/2016 7:06 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Curious, what types of things use +48? -Original Message- From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 7:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 48v and

Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

V is Volts. So there's 24v, 24vh (high power), 48v, 48vh Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 12:09 PM, wrote: > H would probably mean “High” power? What does the VH mean? Or what is > the significance to the

Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

V = Volts ? 24VH = 24V high Power 24V = 24V (regular power) :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Fr

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

Thank you for the answer. I will try that unit. Gilbert On 8/18/2016 6:34 PM, George Skorup wrote: Mean Well RSD200C-48 will work just fine. Put it between your 48v UPS load side and -48 gear. The output of the RSD is floating and you should have no problem tying the + side to ground. On 8/

Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

H would probably mean “High” power? What does the VH mean? Or what is the significance to the “v”. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S? Also 24VH but that's kind of going away. The H actually means 4 pai

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

Not sure. Presumably a 48V poe device could have a negative ground. I was told not to connect -48 to a Cambium 450i, which might imply there's a negative ground there. Packetflux PDU has a negative ground. It's not specifically 48v, but I think it accepts 10-60. When I connected -48 to it

Re: [AFMUG] BPL / Homeplug

You think this one's better than average? It's certainly cheaper than average so maybe worth a shot. :) -- Original Message -- From: "Jeremy" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/18/2016 9:55:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BPL / Homeplug http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=12286 On Thu, Aug 18,

Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

Also 24VH but that's kind of going away. The H actually means 4 pair power and I think people would assume the extra amps doesn't change the pinout. The interface has lots of warnings added in after real life problems. It's obviously created by a WISP guy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Dir

Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

Also when enabling the port into VH mode you get this message. [image: Inline image 1] Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Erich Kaiser wrote: > Confirmed. PTP820S POE works on 48VH ports! > >

Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

Confirmed. PTP820S POE works on 48VH ports! [image: Inline image 1] Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Erich Kaiser wrote: > If I remember correct the 820S is around 30w or less and 820C is hig

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar

Well, it's not every day I get offered a speaking spot on AFMUG, so I will happily take the opportunity! Site is at https://sonar.software, there is a pricing calculator on the front page if you want to run the numbers. The current release has a complete billing system (with usage based bill

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar

https://sonar.software/ Scroll. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:08 AM, wrote: > Tell us more. Price, capabilities, URL etc. > > *From:* Simon Westlake > *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 8:54 AM > *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar

HTTPS://Sonar.software On Aug 19, 2016 10:08 AM, wrote: > Tell us more. Price, capabilities, URL etc. > > *From:* Simon Westlake > *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 8:54 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar > > Yes, it's been available since early this year. You can sign up on

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar

Tell us more. Price, capabilities, URL etc. From: Simon Westlake Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Yes, it's been available since early this year. You can sign up on the site and get immediate access. On 8/19/2016 9:45 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wr

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar

Yes, it's been available since early this year. You can sign up on the site and get immediate access. On 8/19/2016 9:45 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Is anything released? *From:* Jon Bruce *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 8:44 AM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar

It's a cloud thing so there's no release but it's available in its beginning stages. They started sign ups at Wispamerica. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 19, 2016 10:45 AM, wrote: > Is anything released? > > *From:* Jon Bru

[AFMUG] Sonar

Is anything released? From: Jon Bruce Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DHCP option 82 + Canopy + Powercode Yes, Sonar. It's looking really good. On 8/19/2016 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: WRT PC, wasn’t Simon working on something that possibly co

Re: [AFMUG] DHCP option 82 + Canopy + Powercode

Yes, Sonar. It's looking really good. On 8/19/2016 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: WRT PC, wasn’t Simon working on something that possibly could be a competitor? *From:* Jon Bruce *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 8:07 AM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] BPL / Homeplug

They heat up the neutral and use the hots for a counterpoise as I understand it. That is how it can work across phases. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BPL / Homeplug I think (but I don't know for sure) that it also makes a diffe

Re: [AFMUG] BPL / Homeplug

I think (but I don't know for sure) that it also makes a difference which phase you're on. Most homes have split phase power, where half the breakers are on phase A, and the other half are on phase B. If you go through the outlets in a typical room, they will alternate phases as you go around t

Re: [AFMUG] DHCP option 82 + Canopy + Powercode

WRT PC, wasn’t Simon working on something that possibly could be a competitor? From: Jon Bruce Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DHCP option 82 + Canopy + Powercode We're using PC with DHCP for management of SMs and for public IPs. Each is on it's own

Re: [AFMUG] Telescoping Mast me lil brudder made

Great pictures Jaime. How heavy is it? And what is the max height? -Ty On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > This is his prototype he is letting use for some site surveys... >

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

Curious, what types of things use +48? -Original Message- From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 7:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v I have a site that I am converting to DC from AC. All of the gear powers at traditional 48v with a negative g

Re: [AFMUG] DHCP option 82 + Canopy + Powercode

We're using PC with DHCP for management of SMs and for public IPs. Each is on it's own VLAN and IPs are given out by PC based on MAC address. PC can do RADIUS and has it (sort of half, almost, kinda) built in but I haven't made it work (yet). Calling support will only leave you curled up in a

Re: [AFMUG] BPL / Homeplug

As well as noise generators on the circuit. From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 11:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BPL / Homeplug With homeplug, it's not how close individual plugs are located because they have to go through the breaker panel. If the panel is 3 floors

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC and -48 radio

It is a bit confusing. I could label them 1&2. I think if you do + and - then the green LED will come on if opposite the red. If I can make it less confusing please let me know how. Obviously if you put all pins to the -48 no leds will come on. -Original Message- From: George Skoru

Re: [AFMUG] 48v and -48v

Yep. Not really reverse, it's still input -> output. Both the input and output are floating. Just wire - to - and + to +. Yes, your "-48" from the rectifier goes on the negative terminal of the input on the RSD. And you can get either the RSD-200C-48 or 300C-48. 200 or 300W as the names sugges

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