Re: [AFMUG] (OSPF + ibgp) / formerly Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-26 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Jessie, I appreciate the candid and detailed answer. I was trying to separate the technical facts from personal preference. I often say that we all design and manage our networks based on our fears and how we found a solution around a problem. I am not picking on anyone, and myself is

Re: [AFMUG] (OSPF + ibgp) / formerly Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-26 Thread Jesse DuPont
For me, it was a bit of an experiment, but I have ended up liking it. Yes, it does add some overhead, but I didn't have to add routers to be the route reflectors - I just chose two routers which provided good geographic redundancy balanced with being as well-connected as

Re: [AFMUG] (OSPF + ibgp) / formerly Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-26 Thread David Milholen
I have 38 and on our newest deployments we have done this and yes each time I learn how to do a little enhancement on the overall routing. It also seems to be great for dual stacking On 8/26/2016 5:18 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Of course not, but if you learn these designs and techniques you

Re: [AFMUG] snakes on a tower

2016-08-26 Thread Mathew Howard
That would be a very unpleasant thing to find... and here I thought squirrels were bad... On Aug 26, 2016 8:39 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > http://www.cnet.com/news/snakes-on-a-cell-tower-t- > mobile-photo-full-of-nope/ >

Re: [AFMUG] OT I want one

2016-08-26 Thread David Milholen
Wut da Wut! Thats sooo cool! On 8/26/2016 2:28 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo0CiJjTGJE --

[AFMUG] snakes on a tower

2016-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
http://www.cnet.com/news/snakes-on-a-cell-tower-t-mobile-photo-full-of-nope/

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in DallasSeptember 20th

2016-08-26 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
i have associates that hear from them often. i hear from baicells often. i am happy. - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof To: af Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in DallasSeptember 20th Have we heard

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
i thought it was a rooter? - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I predict that "fiber" will soon be added to the list of words people use wrongly. Like WiFi,

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in DallasSeptember 20th

2016-08-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
Pole vaulting takes on a new meaning... On Aug 26, 2016 5:48 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > That high jumper? Her pic was posted many years back... Good lookin girl. > > On Aug 26, 2016 6:07 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote: > >> How about Alison

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in DallasSeptember 20th

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
That high jumper? Her pic was posted many years back... Good lookin girl. On Aug 26, 2016 6:07 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > How about Alison Stokke > > On Aug 26, 2016 2:51 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > >> Tonya Harding might be available. >> >> *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in DallasSeptember 20th

2016-08-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
How about Alison Stokke On Aug 26, 2016 2:51 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Tonya Harding might be available. > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Friday, August 26, 2016 3:07 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
At least we're not from a Texas trailer park: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-man-beheading-wife-police-visit/ Decapitated wife with toddlers present, put head in fridge. Damn. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 3:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] (OSPF + ibgp) / formerly Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
Of course not, but if you learn these designs and techniques you will implement things correctly the first time. On Aug 26, 2016 5:16 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > Lol I don't think my 25 router setup is large scale > > On Aug 26, 2016 5:12 PM, "Josh Reynolds"

Re: [AFMUG] (OSPF + ibgp) / formerly Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Lol I don't think my 25 router setup is large scale On Aug 26, 2016 5:12 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Deploying OSPF in a Large Scale Network > https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=web=j=http:// > andrei.clubcisco.ro/cursuri/4prc/scaling/BRKRST-2310.pdf= >

Re: [AFMUG] (OSPF + ibgp) / formerly Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
Deploying OSPF in a Large Scale Network https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=web=j=http://andrei.clubcisco.ro/cursuri/4prc/scaling/BRKRST-2310.pdf=0ahUKEwiroJ2ujODOAhVsAsAKHRx7Dl4QFggtMAQ=AFQjCNEJn-_gYdPmCsRFvbE4AOdnVEQhgg=2fJL8eTFDdjNdc3TQ6EGGg On Aug 26, 2016 5:07 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"

Re: [AFMUG] (OSPF + ibgp) / formerly Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Ironically I was coming in to ask about ospf and ibgp. I just figured out how to use ospf filters, so I have to confess I have a slight chub. But it turned out the way ospf was propagating pathways for some static space was causing a 100mb link to run at 10. We pulled the trigger on the bgp

Re: [AFMUG] (OSPF + ibgp) / formerly Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-26 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
>> As you grow, you'll find it won't scale well. Care to elaborate more on this ? By definition it is pointed out that putting hundreds of routers or hundreds of routes are a weak point of OSPF, however there are many different techniques available to manage that. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz

Re: [AFMUG] (OSPF + ibgp) / formerly Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-26 Thread Bruce Robertson
As you grow, you'll find it won't scale well. On 08/26/2016 02:21 PM, George Skorup wrote: I do redist with OSPF. It works fine if you know what you're doing. MT OSPF used to act really stupid until ROS v6.27 or thereabouts. On 8/26/2016 2:16 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: So just for the sake of

Re: [AFMUG] (OSPF + ibgp) / formerly Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-26 Thread George Skorup
I do redist with OSPF. It works fine if you know what you're doing. MT OSPF used to act really stupid until ROS v6.27 or thereabouts. On 8/26/2016 2:16 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: So just for the sake of a technical discussion... In your opinion, what is the merit of such a config (osfp + ibgp)

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in DallasSeptember 20th

2016-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
Tonya Harding might be available. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 3:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in DallasSeptember 20th I second that On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I

Re: [AFMUG] OET announces methodology for determining protected contours for grandfathered 3.650-3700 MHz Band Licenses

2016-08-26 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/26/16 13:09, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: good, they should be The good thing about this in the long run is the douchebags who didnt spring the 200 bucks for the license or bother with doing the nonsensical time wasting registrations like professionals had to will get shut down overnight

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
http://bigdtowingseattle.com/ On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:21 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > LOLed again > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> I dunno about that hashtag... >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
LOLed again On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I dunno about that hashtag... > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT I want one

2016-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
holy cow, this means precision work will no longer cut into my drinking time? This type of tech wouldactually be really cool for people like my old man, hes a carpenter from back in the day, but his eyes are shot and he is alot more shaky than he used to be On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Nice. Except I don't see any speed test to prove 10Gbps on that link. I also have 10Gbps on my network for some customers, and can show it: https://www.facebook.com/avative/photos/a.1641368059430239.1073741830.1531269983773381/1737376996496011/?type=3 -Original Message- From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] OET announces methodology for determining protected contours for grandfathered 3.650-3700 MHz Band Licenses

2016-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
BTW, I apologize for sullying up any of you professionals image by lumping myself in with you, it doesnt happen often On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > good, they should be > > > The good thing about this in the long run is the

Re: [AFMUG] OET announces methodology for determining protected contours for grandfathered 3.650-3700 MHz Band Licenses

2016-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
good, they should be The good thing about this in the long run is the douchebags who didnt spring the 200 bucks for the license or bother with doing the nonsensical time wasting registrations like professionals had to will get shut down overnight hopefully bankrupting them On Fri, Aug 26, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in DallasSeptember 20th

2016-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I second that On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I might even come if she will be there... > > *From:* Rick Harnish > *Sent:* Friday, August 26, 2016 1:16 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells

Re: [AFMUG] OET announces methodology for determining protected contours for grandfathered 3.650-3700 MHz Band Licenses

2016-08-26 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/26/16 12:57, Rick Harnish wrote: The Public Notice is attached. I haven�t read it yet. Basically people that didn't register their CPEs will be in for a shock. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Jon Bruce
Paddle faster, I hear banjos ... On 8/26/2016 3:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: So what you're saying is, the ratio of moonshine stills to teeth is about 2:1 ? On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Ken Hohhof > wrote: Not where I live, but where my WISP

Re: [AFMUG] OT I want one

2016-08-26 Thread Cameron Crum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLnFdYt4yZw On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > That's super cool. I wonder how fast you can move before it retracts. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 >

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
Damn. I was born and raised in Kentucky, and what you just described sounds backwoods to ME. :| On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Not where I live, but where my WISP is. > > Which is somewhere people live if (a) they can't afford anywhere else, or > (b) they

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
So what you're saying is, the ratio of moonshine stills to teeth is about 2:1 ? On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Not where I live, but where my WISP is. > > Which is somewhere people live if (a) they can't afford anywhere else, or > (b) they were born there

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
Not where I live, but where my WISP is. Which is somewhere people live if (a) they can't afford anywhere else, or (b) they were born there and never moved. In other words, rural America. A place where I have to explain why our antenna doesn't pick up any TV channels. Where people still run

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
LOL From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I let Ken have all the dumb ones. I take the smart ones. He has more customers than me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
I let Ken have all the dumb ones. I take the smart ones. He has more customers than me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com

[AFMUG] NetEnforcer AC 1400 for sale

2016-08-26 Thread Yent, Timothy M
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Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/26/16 11:58, Gino Villarini wrote: wireless fiber is the new term been used! Google approved fiber optic antenna

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
Where do you live? On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Half my customers can’t even spell Google. (No, don’t go to goggle.com) > > The other half think they already have Google for their Internet provider, > because that’s what the screen says after they click

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
Half my customers can’t even spell Google. (No, don’t go to goggle.com) The other half think they already have Google for their Internet provider, because that’s what the screen says after they click on Internet. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:14 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2000 Roadshow in STL Next Tuesday!

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Oh I guess it is messed up on my phone, lots of extra breaks. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: > It was all chopped up on my phone…looks ok on my computer…go

Re: [AFMUG] OT I want one

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
That's super cool. I wonder how fast you can move before it retracts. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo0CiJjTGJE >

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2000 Roadshow in STL Next Tuesday!

2016-08-26 Thread Jeff Broadwick
It was all chopped up on my phone…looks ok on my computer…go figure. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick Senior Account Manager, Convergence Technologies, Inc. jbroadw...@converge-tech.com 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2000 Roadshow in STL Next Tuesday!

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Fine to me? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > Gah! I'm sorry it got all chopped up! It looked fine on my puter! > > Jeff Broadwick > ConVergence

[AFMUG] OT I want one

2016-08-26 Thread Chuck McCown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo0CiJjTGJE

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
Yeah, they announced this awhile back. It's the Quicken Loans guys. http://www.quickenloanscareers.com/family-of-companies/rocket-fiber/ On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I always said if Google Fiber wanted to prove something, they should wire > Detroit.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2000 Roadshow in STL Next Tuesday!

2016-08-26 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Gah! I'm sorry it got all chopped up! It looked fine on my puter! Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Aug 26, 2016, at 3:19 PM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: > > You are invited to our ePMP 2000

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
I dunno about that hashtag... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:24:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
I always said if Google Fiber wanted to prove something, they should wire Detroit. Looks like someone else did it: https://rocketfiber.com/ Oh, and they're claiming 10 gig? https://twitter.com/search?q=%2310GintheD -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, August 26,

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in DallasSeptember 20th

2016-08-26 Thread Chuck McCown
I might even come if she will be there... From: Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 1:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in DallasSeptember 20th I imagine if we got Ronda Rousey to the Roadshow it would be an excellent draw.

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Chuck McCown
No, you don’t From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 1:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information You need to be Google for that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016

[AFMUG] ePMP 2000 Roadshow in STL Next Tuesday!

2016-08-26 Thread Jeff Broadwick
You are invited to our ePMP 2000 roadshow next Tuesday! It runs from 9AM to around 2PM and includes lunch. One of my customer that attended the first show near DC said that before attending he wasn't interested in ePMP and is now serious about moving in that direction! This one near St.

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in Dallas September 20th

2016-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
Have we heard a single thing about his previous employer since he left? Are they still trucking along as before just without someone to shout about it here, or did they fall off the edge of the earth? From: Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:12 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Join

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in Dallas September 20th

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
She's too busy "having babies" with Travis Brown and will probably never fight again after her previous beating. On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Rick Harnish wrote: > I imagine if we got Ronda Rousey to the Roadshow it would be an excellent > draw. > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in Dallas September 20th

2016-08-26 Thread Rick Harnish
I imagine if we got Ronda Rousey to the Roadshow it would be an excellent draw. Respectfully, Rick Harnish Director of WISP Markets Baicells Technologies, N.A. Mobile: +1.972.922.1443 Email: rick.harn...@baicells.com Follow us on Facebook for

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
Many small FTTH operators are seeing it. Chuck Hogg has also reported several areas in his market where he sees that. I believe he reported 100% for a few as well, many months back. On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > You need to be Google for

Re: [AFMUG] (OSPF + ibgp) / formerly Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-26 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
So just for the sake of a technical discussion... In your opinion, what is the merit of such a config (osfp + ibgp) ? It can be argued that such a config, a) Still depends on OSPF functioning. b) Layer an additional dynamic protocol on top of it (ibgp) c) Requires additional Routers (route

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
You need to be Google for that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > 85% is certainly realistic from my experience. > > -Original Message- From: Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
Ceragon FibeAir is doing okay... :P On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > the sales and marketing team from one of the very earliest 80 GHz, 1 Gbps > bridge products (Gigabeam) tried that... > > wifiber > >

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in Dallas September 20th

2016-08-26 Thread Mathew Howard
He didn't beat anyone up at the last one... I was kind of disappointed :P On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:21 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Will Patrick be beating anyone up? > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Rick Harnish > wrote: > >>

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Chuck McCown
85% is certainly realistic from my experience. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I personally know one of their original engineers for Kansas City. I have heard they have many

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
the sales and marketing team from one of the very earliest 80 GHz, 1 Gbps bridge products (Gigabeam) tried that... wifiber https://www.google.com/search?q=gigabeam+wifiber=utf-8=utf-8=firefox-b Gigabeam long ago went bankrupt and is defunct. On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Gino Villarini

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Gino Villarini
wireless fiber is the new term been used! On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Dan Petermann wrote: > They probably mean fiber to the antenna, which is technically wrong also. > I suppose its easier to say than "fiber to remote radio unit with an > antenna attached” (FtRRUwaAA). >

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Dan Petermann
They probably mean fiber to the antenna, which is technically wrong also. I suppose its easier to say than "fiber to remote radio unit with an antenna attached” (FtRRUwaAA). On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > Someone please explain what a "fiber optic

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
I want a fiber satellite On Aug 26, 2016 12:27 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > I predict that "fiber" will soon be added to the list of words people use > wrongly. Like WiFi, broadband, satellite. It will probably become > synonymous with gigabit. And since people say WiFi when

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Jason McKemie
I'm trying to stop myself from correcting people when they do this. I usually just act confused for a bit and then "oh, you mean *insert correct term here*". On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I predict that "fiber" will soon be added to the list of words

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
I predict that "fiber" will soon be added to the list of words people use wrongly. Like WiFi, broadband, satellite. It will probably become synonymous with gigabit. And since people say WiFi when they mean Internet, and satellite when they mean antenna, people will probably say things like

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Jason McKemie
That is area dependent though. Yes, their customer service is atrocious, but their network is solid enough that you rarely have to speak with anyone - at least around here. They would be tough to compete with. On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > Unless

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I LOLed On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > A complex system of mirrors that beam the laser in all directions, you > just have to hold up the end of the fiber cable to pick it up.� It's like > how you can pull the Cable out of the SFP and it'll still work

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Bill Prince
Unless the main competitor is Comcast. Many people will take equal or even lower Mbps to get away from them. bp On 8/26/2016 9:31 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: I wouldn't believe that for a minute. I've got a couple areas that we are doing marketing testing in, much

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
We saw 90% GPON take rates in some subdivisions to replace CenturyLink or MediaCom, and we were a factor to several factors more expensive. CenturyLink and MediaCom service here are terrible, to the point that it goes out when it rains because the amps flood. On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 11:31 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] COMMERCIAL: anyone using trillian IM?

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
Spend a day checking out slack. Seriously, it's quite nice - and free for the main feature set. If there's a feature they have that you don't want to pay for, check out Ryver.com. On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:45 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > Thanks for the

Re: [AFMUG] COMMERCIAL: anyone using trillian IM?

2016-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Thanks for the feedback, I did like that they gave me an actual price without having to give them a ton of contact info to get harassed with On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:53 PM, Charles Boening wrote: > We run an in-house Trillian server. It’s integrated with AD and we use >

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro

2016-08-26 Thread Christopher Tyler
Cool, thanks for the info. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 12:39:17 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in Dallas September 20th

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Not until Scottie tells him to. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > Inside joke? > > Is there a reason he would be you up Josh? > > > -- Original Message

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Probably have to go to the forum for any assistance, that's where I'd go for this. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote: > The ePMP was previously

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in Dallas September 20th

2016-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Im not saying I promote violence...but I promote violence On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Rick Harnish wrote: > Would you like that Steve? > > > > Respectfully, > > > > *Rick Harnish* > > Director of WISP Markets > > Baicells Technologies, N.A. > > Mobile:

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in Dallas September 20th

2016-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
Inside joke? Is there a reason he would be you up Josh? -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 8/26/2016 1:22:31 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in Dallas September 20th No

Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

2016-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
holy cow, my icq account is still there, man it would be awesome if it had archived the chat histories, ICQ was the best place to harass people and pull tail On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Damn, it was worth a shot. > > My original ICQ account was

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro

2016-08-26 Thread Christopher Tyler
The ePMP was previously onboarded but showing down for some reason, it's now showing as up. It only took about 20 minutes for it's status to change for some reason. The routers won't onboard at all, just shows as being "Queued" and have been in that state for the last 20 minutes. --

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in Dallas September 20th

2016-08-26 Thread Rick Harnish
Would you like that Steve? Respectfully, Rick Harnish Director of WISP Markets Baicells Technologies, N.A. Mobile: +1.972.922.1443 Email: rick.harn...@baicells.com Follow us on Facebook for the latest news From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in Dallas September 20th

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
No I'm staying home for this one. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:21 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Will Patrick be beating anyone up? > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:58 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
I haven't got any 3.0 units on cnMaestro, did you confirm that's working with others? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote: > Everything running

Re: [AFMUG] Join Us! Baicells Technologies Roadshow in Dallas September 20th

2016-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Will Patrick be beating anyone up? On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Rick Harnish wrote: > > > Our Dallas road show is approximately 25 days away - register today! > > > > > > > > > > Baicells Road Show - Dallas,

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro

2016-08-26 Thread Christopher Tyler
Everything running latest. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 12:17:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Running minimum versions? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote: > Anyone else having issues this morning onboarding devices to cnMaestro? > I have a

[AFMUG] cnMaestro

2016-08-26 Thread Christopher Tyler
Anyone else having issues this morning onboarding devices to cnMaestro? I have a couple of routers and an ePMP radio that all show down even though they are all up and accessible. Just want to know if it's me or if I should be calling Cambium to tell them to fix their server. -- Christopher

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Carlos Alcantar
Do you guys think it was possible that there 5 million subs in 5 years was a bit of an over reach? I personally don't know a single utility (com/power/gas/water) that has turned up 5 million physical subscribers in 5 years. Cities are not built overnight. Now doing it in a roll up manner

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/26/16 09:33, Mike Hammett wrote: but you're not selling fiber, you're not Google and I bet there aren't droves of people willing to fellate you for your service. That's what Google Fiber has going for it. They don't even need to be selling fiber, the Google name is enough.

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I think it’s definitely market dependent. I have MDU areas which are more transient and possibly lower income that the take rate hovers around 50 percent. Then I have affluent neighborhoods where the take rate is near 80% like stated below. Each neighborhood is different even within our city.

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
but you're not selling fiber, you're not Google and I bet there aren't droves of people willing to fellate you for your service. That's what Google Fiber has going for it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Rory Conaway
I wouldn't believe that for a minute. I've got a couple areas that we are doing marketing testing in, much smaller sample, and I'm getting a hard lesson in what you have to do to get people to switch. You can be the fastest by a factor of 10, the only option in the area is 4Mbps DSL and

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy SNMP AP

2016-08-26 Thread Matt
> This will show all of the connected ESN's. > snmpwalk -v2c -cCanopy 1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.1.4.1.3 > > The last number in the returned oid is the LUID > > This will show all of the management IP's based on LUID. > snmpwalk -v2c -cCanopy 1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.1.4.1.69 Works perfect. Thanks.

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
What facts? The facts they state are layoffs due to speculation of number of customers being lower than target. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information "The slow pace

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Hate* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:27:36 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
I have cones. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:27:36 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Robert Andrews
Must be based upon AirFiber technology... One step beyond air and mirrors technology... On 08/26/2016 08:47 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Someone please explain what a "fiber optic antenna" is? /"Alphabet is also actively exploring how it can solve the cost of laying cable through using less

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Robert Andrews
The folks running this for Google ran the first cable isp. I doubt they have any lack of understanding of the issues of running an ISP or initial uptake in new markets. This is probably trimming excess staff and consolidating investment rates to more reasonable levels. Also serves to give

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-26 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/26/16 08:47, Bill Prince wrote: Someone please explain what a "fiber optic antenna" is? /"Alphabet is also actively exploring how it can solve the cost of laying cable through using less expensive technology and existing infrastructure. Last month Google acquired Webpass, a company that

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy SNMP AP

2016-08-26 Thread Gerard Dupont III
This will show all of the connected ESN's. snmpwalk -v2c -cCanopy 1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.1.4.1.3 The last number in the returned oid is the LUID This will show all of the management IP's based on LUID. snmpwalk -v2c -cCanopy 1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.1.4.1.69 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Matt

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