To be precise mpls needs routing working. You can do any routing protocol or
even static routing.
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Von: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
Datum: 09.08.2015 05:02 (GMT+01:00)
An: af@afmug.com
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[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 11:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
MPLS does require OSPF to function.
However, to use VPLS tunnels from my tower to my edge, I still have three
destinations for every tower
to
MPLS.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
To be precise mpls needs routing working. You can do any routing protocol or
even static routing
: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
To be precise mpls needs routing working. You can do any routing protocol or
even static routing.
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Von: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net
Datum: 09.08.2015 05:02 (GMT+01:00)
An: af@afmug.com
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tushar Patel
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 10:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
So what is the good place (book, website) to understand MPLS?
Tushar
On Aug 9, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
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From: Shayne Lebrun sleb...@muskoka.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 3:24:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
I advocate keeping everything routed, and using MPLS/VPLS to move L2 where
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From: Shayne Lebrun sleb...@muskoka.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 3:24:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
I advocate keeping everything routed, and using MPLS/VPLS to move
That’s what I’m struggling with too.
Multiple potential head ends that are geographically diverse on the network.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 6:11 AM
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Agreed
Stay away from STP, go MpLS , MPLS-TP if possible
On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote:
I'm running Mikrotik, all routed, got a different subnet for each tower,
got a different subnet between each tower, public IP's routed to the
customers, all the fun
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From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
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Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:44:06 AM
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That’s what I’m struggling with too.
Multiple potential head ends
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That’s what I’m struggling with too.
Multiple potential head ends
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From: Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:57:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
I'm pretty ignorant on MPLS, but doesn't it work without OSPF? Or is a routing
, August 8, 2015 6:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
Head-ends and NOC all geographically diverse, so then each tower potentially
has three public /30s instead of one for however many neighboring towers.
Decisions...
It should improve latency and possibly re
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To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:22:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
I didn’t want to have customers switch public IP on fail.
So that would require at least a /24 per site for BGP failover at the edge, if
it has to BGP through
Hammett
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
You lost me here... why the /24 per site? Just do whatever you were going to
do anyway out of your /(whatever greater than 24). This wouldn't affect your
EGP at all.
Unless you're
Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 8:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
If you already have a routed core network, especially if you have OSPF rings
(like we do), I figure it'd make more sense to put MPLS on top. I haven't done
it yet
:* Thursday, August 6, 2015 8:52 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
If you already have a routed core network, especially if you have OSPF
rings (like we do), I figure it'd make more sense to put MPLS on top. I
haven't done it yet because we haven't
Plus one for MPLS/VPLS. Gives you a lot more control over what goes where.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 8:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
If you already have a routed core network
/VPLS. Gives you a lot more control over what goes
where.
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*Sent:* Thursday, August 6, 2015 8:52 PM
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If you already have a routed core network
: Friday, August 07, 2015 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
That’s the basics. On a Mikrotik:
Create a bridge with no ports. Call it ‘Loopback’. Assign a /32 to it, and
advertise via OSPF.
Set your OSPF instance router ID to this IP.
MPLS-MPLS, under LDP
, 2015 9:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
I haven't grasped how this would work, but I haven't tried it in a lab yet
either.
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Mike Hammett
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From: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
what we want.
It will be interesting to see what of the methods/protocols you’ve listed we
end up using and how we use it.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 12:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
.
Mikrotik’s wiki has some great write-ups on all this.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 2:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
If you have even a couple of routers (ideally with switches off of each
I advocate keeping everything routed, and using MPLS/VPLS to move L2 where they
need to go, when required.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 3:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
You guys
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
If you have even a couple of routers (ideally with switches off of each), you
can simulate some pretty cool stuff… then add a third router into the mix and
it’s even more fun.
MPLS isn’t something you just learn right away
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
I’d suggest BGP at all locations when building an MPLS network – MPBGP to be
specific….
Sometimes folks who are just starting into MPLS presume that by having a full
BGP mesh everywhere means that you need to carry the full Internet routing
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 11:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
MPLS is where we are heading.
In the planning phases right now for MPLS ring network.
Seems like it works well if the network has multiple paths
I'm running Mikrotik, all routed, got a different subnet for each tower, got a
different subnet between each tower, public IP's routed to the customers, all
the fun stuff.
I'm thinking of restructuring my network so the entire backbone is one big L2
network. If I plug into the switch at the
Im probably mucking our whole network up, but we are putting a mikrotik
rb1200ahx2 at each site, each backhaul goes into its own port for routing
and running OSPF, there is a /30 between each site for router to router and
the ospf traffic, a /30 secondary on each interface for the local backhaul
This is basically what I have right now. I will describe it in more detail
when I'm not mobile.
-Ty
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote:
I'm running Mikrotik, all routed, got a different subnet for each tower,
got a different subnet between each tower,
debating right now.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 7:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
MPLS-enabling a network also reduces your latency on Mikrotik.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing
If you already have a routed core network, especially if you have OSPF
rings (like we do), I figure it'd make more sense to put MPLS on top. I
haven't done it yet because we haven't needed to do anything like
customer tunnels for multi-site interconnects, but we're getting there.
On 8/6/2015
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
Im probably mucking our whole network up, but we are putting a mikrotik
rb1200ahx2 at each site, each backhaul goes into its own port for routing and
running OSPF
] Routed vs bridge with a twist
If you already have a routed core network, especially if you have OSPF rings
(like we do), I figure it'd make more sense to put MPLS on top. I haven't done
it yet because we haven't needed to do anything like customer tunnels for
multi-site interconnects, but we're
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