Re: [AFMUG] Generic LTE CPEs used with Baicells, Telrad etc.

[Mathew Howard]

Your best bet is probably going to be to try getting a quantity discount
from Baicells... I'm not sure if they're doing that or not, but if you have
that many ready to go, it's worth a shot.

Last I checked, there didn't seem to be a lot of options for 3.65ghz LTE
cpe with decent antenna gain... I'm not sure what else is even out there,
other than Telrad. The problem with getting anything directly from China,
is that it probably won't be FCC certified.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 8:33 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> What CPEs are you using on the LTE gear?   From most powerful to most
> cost-effective?
>
>
>
> We are using the ones that Baicells sells with their gear, but looking to
> sharpen our pencil on the scenario as we have a couple hundred users to
> roll out in the next 90 days. (hopefully)
>
>
>
> Has anyone pulled some in from China directly?   We have some experience
> with importing “widgets” from China, so that would be quite appealing, if
> anyone has experience with that
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> 
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Generic LTE CPEs used with Baicells, Telrad etc.

[Joe Novak]

The only thing I have to say about that is if you intend on using the
Baicell's proprietary method of L2 to the customer (VXLAN from the CPE to
the eNB is what 'may' happen (soonTM)) you may not be able to do it, if
that matters to you. It won't break the LTE standard from what it sounds
like though.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 8:33 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> What CPEs are you using on the LTE gear?   From most powerful to most
> cost-effective?
>
>
>
> We are using the ones that Baicells sells with their gear, but looking to
> sharpen our pencil on the scenario as we have a couple hundred users to
> roll out in the next 90 days. (hopefully)
>
>
>
> Has anyone pulled some in from China directly?   We have some experience
> with importing “widgets” from China, so that would be quite appealing, if
> anyone has experience with that
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> 
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Require Recent Web Browser?

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

A bit of a survey here

A couple of features I'm looking at for current/future products would be
much easier to implement using a certain feature found only in relatively
new web browsers, aka, Chrome/Firefox/Edge updated within the last year.

One specific browser feature I'm looking at is webassembly.  Various tools
out there indicate that around 87% of the installed/active browsers on the
internet are recent enough for native support.   Most of the browsers
gained support for this feature early to mid last year.   With autoupdates
being the rule instead of the exception, anyone on a recent auto-updating
web browser should support this.  I'm mostly concerned about 'the rest'.

Support for the older browsers is possible, but it adds a level of
complexity (specifically a level of testing) which I would prefer not to do
if I could get away without it.

To be clear:  Almost all of the functionality of the upcoming products
won't require these functions.  A specific example of something that might
require this is setting up the scripting functionality as I'm looking at
various technologies which would work best if I could run a chunk of
webassembly code in the browser as part of the code editor.  However, other
than editing a script, the rest of the functionality would work fine.

Thoughts?

-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000

[Steve Jones]

I concur

On Mar 12, 2018 8:04 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> You know I love me some sweet sweet Cambium gear, but I have to make fun
> as much as possible.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> 
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Matt Mangriotis  cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>
>> We’re good at it… we can’t work miracles!
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2018 11:04 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000
>>
>>
>>
>> *cough* FSK and OFDM combo with integrated GPS *cough*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> 
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>
>> FYI, Cambium is very good at this.  Look at the 400 series.  430 would
>> connect to 450 which gave longer life to the 430s.  You didn’t get all the
>> cool features of the 450, but the clients worked.  ePMP is following the
>> same philosophy.  If anyone out there is wanting to try ePMP can hook you
>> up with some great promotions. I am certified Cambium consultant and have
>> some pretty cool options for folks new to ePMP.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Justin Wilson
>>
>> j...@mtin.net
>>
>>
>>
>> www.mtin.net
>> 
>>
>> www.midwest-ix.com
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 9:56 AM, Darin Steffl 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> This is from the horse's mouth. It says Q1 for compatibility with ePMP
>> 2000.
>>
>>
>>
>> This document is from January though so maybe that firmware will be a
>> little later like Q2.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>
>> In Vegas it wouldn't, but they must have agreed to make it happen.
>> Hopefully that's not the reason behind the delay.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> 
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> 
>>
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Summer Session

[Paul McCall]

I’m in !

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 9:12 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Summer Session

Second week of June.
Day 1 in a hotel meeting room near SLC Airport.
Day 2 my place about 15 minutes West of the SLC Airport.

Tentative Topics
Fiber topology and system design options
Splicing
Materials
Equipment
System Costs

Horizontal Directional Drilling operation
Vacuum Excavation operation
Vibratory plow
Splicing Trailers
Trenching
Missile/Hole Hawg

Going to try to get Ditch Witch and Vermeer to bring their toys.
But if the don’t want to do that I have my own.

[AFMUG] Expenses

[Matt Hoppes]

So I got to thinking about something today. 

Pretty much anything needed to run the business you can expense. 

What about a surgery?  Being the principle owner of a small shop I have to be 
able to work. If without a surgery (say rotator cuff of something) the business 
won’t run - is there a way to expense that?

Just like I can expense PPE, or switches?

Or a health savings account?  What creative options do I have?

[AFMUG] The things in Slack...

[Mike Hammett]

Someone posted a link to this, "https://www.thewisp.com/pages/bjs; 

The page header is, " WISP Training Video for BJ's". 


Apparently I haven't been installing in the right neighborhoods. 





- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] Calix\Occam POTS Question

[Dan Parrish]

If reboot doesn't fix it, replace card and rma, IMO. Source: worked with occam 
b6 for 10 years.

--dan



On 3/12/2018 12:50 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
This is in reference to a BLC 6252-02 (also known as B6-252). Do any of you 
have any tips on what to do when the POTS screen just sits there grayed out and 
fuzzy? Only the first third of the ports on the main screen show status 
information. All DSL ports are fine.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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[AFMUG] How far from a tower is safe?

[Jay Weekley]

I've heard there is a formula to determine how far from a tower someone 
can be to be safe from objects that are dropped.  You know, wrenches 
etc.  Can anyone give me some quick guidance?

[AFMUG] We're hiring, if you guys know anyone..

[Simon Westlake]

Details at https://sonar.community/t/were-hiring/1559

Short version - looking for a really good networking guy to join the 
team. Please pass along the link to anyone you know that might fit the 
bill! It's a remote position, so it's open to anyone in the US/Canada.


Thanks for any referrals!

--
Simon Westlake | CEO
simon@sonar.software
(702) 447-1247
https://sonar.software

[AFMUG] test

[Paul McCall]

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000

[Sean Heskett]

Yeah totally agree



On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 6:11 AM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:

> To be fair by the time Cambium (really Motorola) gave up there was very
> little point left in it.   Having a 450AP slow down enough to talk to a 2X
> FSK radio at 14Mbps meant you might as well not put up a 450AP.We are
> finding it painful to have 430SM’s on 450 AP’s for the same reason and are
> having to pull those off the network due to the capacity hit on the AP’s.
> It’s nice that we can do that gradually, but there is no way I would want
> to have FSK SM’s on a 450i or 450m AP.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Matt Mangriotis <
> matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>
> We’re good at it… we can’t work miracles!
>
> 
> Matt
>
> *From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2018 11:04 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000
>
> *cough* FSK and OFDM combo with integrated GPS *cough*
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> 
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>
> FYI, Cambium is very good at this.  Look at the 400 series.  430 would
> connect to 450 which gave longer life to the 430s.  You didn’t get all the
> cool features of the 450, but the clients worked.  ePMP is following the
> same philosophy.  If anyone out there is wanting to try ePMP can hook you
> up with some great promotions. I am certified Cambium consultant and have
> some pretty cool options for folks new to ePMP.
>
>
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
> www.mtin.net
> 
> www.midwest-ix.com
> 
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2018, at 9:56 AM, Darin Steffl  wrote:
>
> This is from the horse's mouth. It says Q1 for compatibility with ePMP
> 2000.
>
> This document is from January though so maybe that firmware will be a
> little later like Q2.
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
> In Vegas it wouldn't, but they must have agreed to make it happen.
> Hopefully that's not the reason behind the delay.
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
>
> 

[AFMUG] testing

[Justin Marshall]

testing

[AFMUG] Site Survey Tools

[Matt]

Say you have a customer that you cannot reach from there rooftop etc.
They want to know how tall of a tower they need.  Has anyone developed
any tools for this such as telescopic pole etc?

[AFMUG] PMP 320 SM Power Supply

[Justin Marshall]

Hi,

Does anyone know which POE standard the 320 SM is in compliance with? 
802.3af/ad/at/etc?

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Jeremy]

Pretty much every call center in existence has a high turnover rate.  I
think this is just the nature of a call center.

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Lol, no the number of names isnt my complaint, was just curious if that
> was am indicator of high employee churn, or if they just have alot of
> staff. I have communicated all this stuff to them via our POC.
>
> On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
> wrote:
>
>> GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard.
>>
>> The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. They always say In
>> Dee Go.
>>
>> On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support DT,
>> lol!
>>
>>
>>
>> I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I think
>> they are doing well.
>>
>>
>>
>> The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our company name pronounced
>> five different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper pronunciation.
>>
>>
>>
>> But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always confused on
>> pronunciation themselves.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>>
>>
>>
>> I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as the decision tree
>> that you provide to him.  The more detailed DT, the better the service will
>> be.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Layne Sisk
>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to share some solid stats with the group.  Please see those
>> below.  The comment about a decline is hard to address without looking at
>> stats.  Kind of like the user that calls you and vaguely  says “My internet
>> seems slow” when you have stats that show they are getting more than they
>> are paying for.  We have hired a number of new people recently because we
>> have grown and have added a new office but as Justin said this is a slow
>> time of the year so we also took advantage of this time to get rid of some
>> of our weaker performers.  Here are the company wide stats for the past
>> week with some comments about them, I would stack these up against any call
>> center in the world.  Sorry if I come on strong, but as you all know this
>> is my baby and I care a lot about it just like you do about your networks.
>> I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am sure we made a mistake or
>> two and I am happy to address any individual issue directly, but I am
>> pretty proud of what we do.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *OFFICE STATS*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *SP*
>>
>> *GOAL*
>>
>> *Comment*
>>
>> *AVERAGE TALK TIME*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 0:11:05
>>
>> 0:10:00
>>
>> Down from over 13 min 2 months ago
>>
>> *  TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 69.94%
>>
>> 80%
>>
>> This is agent utilization
>>
>> *SURVEY SCORE*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 91.66%
>>
>> 95%
>>
>> 91.66% of callers would recommend the service That  is a number any
>> company would kill for
>>
>> *SURVEY TAKEN*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 20.57%
>>
>> 20%
>>
>> A full 20% of callers responded to our survey, that number is unheard of
>>
>> *TECH ESCALATION*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 39.31%
>>
>> 20%
>>
>> Higher escalation percentage this week because of the storms and
>> significant network outages
>>
>> *ESCALATION APPROVAL TIME*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 0:11:47
>>
>> 0:10:00
>>
>> Down from over 30 min 4 months ago
>>
>> *QA SCORE*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 92.05%
>>
>> 95%
>>
>> Happy to share our QA form with anyone who would like to see it
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *COMPANY STATS*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *SP*
>>
>> *GOAL*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *CALL WAIT TIME*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 0:01:52
>>
>> 2:00
>>
>> Less than 2 min wait time even though our SLA is less than 3
>>
>> *BILLABLE CALLS*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 6112
>>
>> 10,000
>>
>> Reflection of the slow season
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *ABANDONED TIME*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 0.37
>>
>> 2:00
>>
>> Outage recordings cause people to hang up once they hear the recording
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *CALLS TAKEN PER HOUR*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 4.10
>>
>> 5.45
>>
>> This is calls answered per worked hour
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Layne Sisk
>>
>> ServerPlus
>>
>> 801.426.8283, ext 102
>>
>>  
>>
>> [image: http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png]
>>
>> [image: http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]
>> 

[AFMUG] EPMP reset the reboot counter

[Steve Jones]

Is there a way to reset this counter without defaulting the radio?

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Josh Reynolds]

That's how it's pronounced...

Maybe a regional thing?

On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
wrote:

> GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard.
>
> The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. They always say In
> Dee Go.
>
> On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
>
> They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support DT,
> lol!
>
>
>
> I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I think
> they are doing well.
>
>
>
> The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our company name pronounced
> five different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper pronunciation.
>
>
>
> But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always confused on
> pronunciation themselves.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>
>
>
> I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as the decision tree that
> you provide to him.  The more detailed DT, the better the service will be.
>
>
>
> *From:* Layne Sisk
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>
>
>
> I would like to share some solid stats with the group.  Please see those
> below.  The comment about a decline is hard to address without looking at
> stats.  Kind of like the user that calls you and vaguely  says “My internet
> seems slow” when you have stats that show they are getting more than they
> are paying for.  We have hired a number of new people recently because we
> have grown and have added a new office but as Justin said this is a slow
> time of the year so we also took advantage of this time to get rid of some
> of our weaker performers.  Here are the company wide stats for the past
> week with some comments about them, I would stack these up against any call
> center in the world.  Sorry if I come on strong, but as you all know this
> is my baby and I care a lot about it just like you do about your networks.
> I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am sure we made a mistake or
> two and I am happy to address any individual issue directly, but I am
> pretty proud of what we do.
>
>
>
>
>
> *OFFICE STATS*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *SP*
>
> *GOAL*
>
> *Comment*
>
> *AVERAGE TALK TIME*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 0:11:05
>
> 0:10:00
>
> Down from over 13 min 2 months ago
>
> *  TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 69.94%
>
> 80%
>
> This is agent utilization
>
> *SURVEY SCORE*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 91.66%
>
> 95%
>
> 91.66% of callers would recommend the service That  is a number any
> company would kill for
>
> *SURVEY TAKEN*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 20.57%
>
> 20%
>
> A full 20% of callers responded to our survey, that number is unheard of
>
> *TECH ESCALATION*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 39.31%
>
> 20%
>
> Higher escalation percentage this week because of the storms and
> significant network outages
>
> *ESCALATION APPROVAL TIME*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 0:11:47
>
> 0:10:00
>
> Down from over 30 min 4 months ago
>
> *QA SCORE*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 92.05%
>
> 95%
>
> Happy to share our QA form with anyone who would like to see it
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *COMPANY STATS*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *SP*
>
> *GOAL*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *CALL WAIT TIME*
>
>
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2018 10:30 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Serverplus
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> Has anyone noted a consistent decline in quality with these guys, and a
> large number of different tech names in their tickets?
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[AFMUG] Fiber Boot Camp - AnimalFarm

[chuck]

The question has come up a couple of times, when you register how much money do 
you put in the box.
The answer is you have to put in at least $1 for the process to work.  But $1K 
also works...
www.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000

[Paul McCall]

That is correct Mark.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:12 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000

To be fair by the time Cambium (really Motorola) gave up there was very little 
point left in it.   Having a 450AP slow down enough to talk to a 2X FSK radio 
at 14Mbps meant you might as well not put up a 450AP.We are finding it 
painful to have 430SM’s on 450 AP’s for the same reason and are having to pull 
those off the network due to the capacity hit on the AP’s.  It’s nice that we 
can do that gradually, but there is no way I would want to have FSK SM’s on a 
450i or 450m AP.

Mark


On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
>
 wrote:

We’re good at it… we can’t work miracles!


Matt

From: Af > On Behalf Of Josh 
Luthman
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 11:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000

*cough* FSK and OFDM combo with integrated GPS *cough*


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Justin Wilson 
> wrote:
FYI, Cambium is very good at this.  Look at the 400 series.  430 would connect 
to 450 which gave longer life to the 430s.  You didn’t get all the cool 
features of the 450, but the clients worked.  ePMP is following the same 
philosophy.  If anyone out there is wanting to try ePMP can hook you up with 
some great promotions. I am certified Cambium consultant and have some pretty 
cool options for folks new to ePMP.


Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

www.mtin.net
www.midwest-ix.com



On Mar 12, 2018, at 9:56 AM, Darin Steffl 
> wrote:

This is from the horse's mouth. It says Q1 for compatibility with ePMP 2000.

This document is from January though so maybe that firmware will be a little 
later like Q2.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
In Vegas it wouldn't, but they must have agreed to make it happen. Hopefully 
that's not the reason behind the delay.


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Solutions
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Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000

[Stefan Englhardt]

At some time vendors have to make a technology-jump to advance.

 

 

Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Mark Radabaugh
Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. März 2018 13:12
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000

 

To be fair by the time Cambium (really Motorola) gave up there was very little 
point left in it.   Having a 450AP slow down enough to talk to a 2X FSK radio 
at 14Mbps meant you might as well not put up a 450AP.We are finding it 
painful to have 430SM’s on 450 AP’s for the same reason and are having to pull 
those off the network due to the capacity hit on the AP’s.  It’s nice that we 
can do that gradually, but there is no way I would want to have FSK SM’s on a 
450i or 450m AP.

 

Mark





On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
 > wrote:

 

We’re good at it… we can’t work miracles! 

 



Matt

 

From: Af <  af-boun...@afmug.com> On Behalf Of 
Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 11:04 AM
To:   af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000

 

*cough* FSK and OFDM combo with integrated GPS *cough*




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Justin Wilson <  
li...@mtin.net> wrote:

FYI, Cambium is very good at this.  Look at the 400 series.  430 would connect 
to 450 which gave longer life to the 430s.  You didn’t get all the cool 
features of the 450, but the clients worked.  ePMP is following the same 
philosophy.  If anyone out there is wanting to try ePMP can hook you up with 
some great promotions. I am certified Cambium consultant and have some pretty 
cool options for folks new to ePMP.

 

 

Justin Wilson

  j...@mtin.net

 

 

 www.mtin.net

 

 www.midwest-ix.com






On Mar 12, 2018, at 9:56 AM, Darin Steffl <  
darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:

 

This is from the horse's mouth. It says Q1 for compatibility with ePMP 2000.

 

This document is from January though so maybe that firmware will be a little 
later like Q2.

 

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett <  
af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

In Vegas it wouldn't, but they must have agreed to make it happen. Hopefully 
that's not the reason behind the delay.



-
Mike Hammett
 

 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 

  

  

  

 
 

 Midwest Internet Exchange