Re: [AFMUG] OT...gig for Empty Bowls..

[Paul McCall]

cool!

From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jaime Solorza 
[losguyswirel...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 5:25 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] OT...gig for Empty Bowls..

We played for a charity event that raises money for fighting hunger this 
morning..raised 43,000.00!!!
Yours truly ripping a solo on I am a Man...
Jaime Solorza

[AFMUG] OT SIP issue

[Chuck McCown]

Pulling our hair out.  The Aastra phones will call each other, we can send dtmf 
but no audio.  Linksys sip ata does the same thing.  These were working, very 
frustrating.  

Re: [AFMUG] Product Stock

[Mike Hammett]

DoubleRadius didn't have much, but claimed stock at a heck of a price on some 
of it. I ordered more than I needed just because of the price. 

LMG didn't say they were out of stock of anything on their web site, so that's 
either really good or really bad. Then again, I think they're further away for 
me than Utah. 

I'd like to see Chuck make it more difficult for companies to just drop ship 
everything. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 3:39:25 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Product Stock 


Does anyone actually stock product? The first two I asked had one or less of 
the products I'm looking for. 


800-GIGE-APC-HV 
800-DCSS-APC 
800-APC-DIN-SS 
800-GIGE-POE-APC 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] Product Stock

[Chuck McCown]

I would love to crack that nut. I charge a drop ship fee on everything but 
tower mounts. I offer virtual warehousing.  The only other thing I can think of 
is to raise the drop ship fee.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 8, 2018, at 12:45 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> DoubleRadius didn't have much, but claimed stock at a heck of a price on some 
> of it. I ordered more than I needed just because of the price.
> 
> LMG didn't say they were out of stock of anything on their web site, so 
> that's either really good or really bad. Then again, I think they're further 
> away for me than Utah.
> 
> I'd like to see Chuck make it more difficult for companies to just drop ship 
> everything.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 3:39:25 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Product Stock
> 
> Does anyone actually stock product? The first two I asked had one or less of 
> the products I'm looking for.
> 
> 800-GIGE-APC-HV
> 800-DCSS-APC
> 800-APC-DIN-SS
> 800-GIGE-POE-APC
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Are they behind nat?

Sounds like it might be a reinvite issue, asterisk will try to get out of
the audio path by telling the endpoints to talk directly to each other.
 If nat is involved asterisk will often tell the endpoints to talk directly
even if they have no direct connection between them.

Disabling reinvite may help if this is the case.

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018, 11:27 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Pulling our hair out.  The Aastra phones will call each other, we can send
> dtmf but no audio.  Linksys sip ata does the same thing.  These were
> working, very frustrating.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue

[Chuck McCown]

Tried both ways, no joy.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 8, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are they behind nat?
> 
> Sounds like it might be a reinvite issue, asterisk will try to get out of the 
> audio path by telling the endpoints to talk directly to each other.   If nat 
> is involved asterisk will often tell the endpoints to talk directly even if 
> they have no direct connection between them.
> 
> Disabling reinvite may help if this is the case.
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018, 11:27 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> Pulling our hair out.  The Aastra phones will call each other, we can send 
>> dtmf but no audio.  Linksys sip ata does the same thing.  These were 
>> working, very frustrating. 

Re: [AFMUG] Remote access and mobile data for tech

[Adam Moffett]

I was talking to Select Spectrum the other day.  They can get you a 
channel in 217-220mhz.  The license is for a whole county.  I think the 
biggest size is 1mhz, but they'll also do a 100khz channel.  They'll 
price it by Mhz*population.  A tenth of a mhz times the population of a 
rural county could be pretty cheap.  Oh and you can transmit at 50 Watts 
ERP.


So along these lines I was wondering how feasible it would be to build a 
little low speed OOB management network.  You might only get 100kbps, 
but 217mhz at 50 Watts should really travel.  It might be just the thing 
to get you into your hung router.



-- Original Message --
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: 4/6/2018 8:56:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Remote access and mobile data for tech

Does have a learning curve but great technical support with real folks 
on phone


Jaime Solorza

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 9:36 PM Steve Jones  
wrote:
Cradlepoint is what we are looking toward for sites. Is it as 
versatile as mikrotik for fieldwork? I need easy changes without 
reboot


On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 8:35 PM Jaime Solorza  
wrote:
I have zero issues with Cradlepoint Aer1600... T-MOBILE , Wi-Fi and 
LAN connectionsI can use two SIM cards if I need


Jaime Solorza

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 6:40 PM Steve Jones  
wrote:
May be looking for two separate items here. And rehashing the site 
remote acces questions.
I prefer a multicarrier option, that way if im in the tech van and 
its verizon sim isnt getting quality id like to drop my att straight 
talk sim in and get interwebs.
I prefer mikrotik. I currently use an air router for the install 
truck and with ip aliases i can access all our radios directly from 
a phone and our long test cable. Except not 169.254.1.1 because ubnt 
chose to hardcode that. If the radio connects to our network then we 
have access to our network from our phone. Having the cellular 
option adds public side access. Plus google earth needs a live 
connection to plot link paths onsite, i did it today on a 300k 
hotspot from my workphone...aweful.
I would like external wifi and cellular antenna options so i dont 
have to hang this out the window in a ziplock baggie, looks kind of 
ghetto, but it also needs to be able to be made portable if im 
testing where i cant get the van close enough to operate off the 
test cables and have to operate off ac site power or out of radio 
range of the van antenna.


Then, of course external remote site access. We had a site router 
hang the other day and had to drive to the site with a subscriber to 
connect from the ground and reboot the ups, otherwise we would have 
had to climb or trip the breaker and wait for the battery to die

Re: [AFMUG] Remote access and mobile data for tech

[George Skorup]

There are lots of stuffs for VHF and UHF data radios, serial, modbus, 
ethernet, etc. Like Cambium's cnReach, but it isn't cheap and doesn't go 
below 220.


You can put an LTE stick in a MikroTik, but if the router locks up, 
you're kinda screwed. Which is why I haven't bothered with that. If you 
screw up a firewall rule or something, it's easy enough to mac-telnet in 
from an adjacent router.


SiteMonitor AutoCycle is usually good nuf for lockups. I think Forrest 
said he'll be giving us more options with the RackInjector and next 
revision of base unit. Like pinging more than one IP. Or rulesets or 
something like that.


On 4/8/2018 3:02 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I was talking to Select Spectrum the other day.  They can get you a 
channel in 217-220mhz.  The license is for a whole county.  I think 
the biggest size is 1mhz, but they'll also do a 100khz channel. 
 They'll price it by Mhz*population.  A tenth of a mhz times the 
population of a rural county could be pretty cheap.  Oh and you can 
transmit at 50 Watts ERP.


So along these lines I was wondering how feasible it would be to build 
a little low speed OOB management network.  You might only get 
100kbps, but 217mhz at 50 Watts should really travel.  It might be 
just the thing to get you into your hung router.



-- Original Message --
From: "Jaime Solorza" >

To: "Animal Farm" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 4/6/2018 8:56:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Remote access and mobile data for tech

Does have a learning curve but great technical support with real 
folks on phone


Jaime Solorza

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 9:36 PM Steve Jones > wrote:


Cradlepoint is what we are looking toward for sites. Is it as
versatile as mikrotik for fieldwork? I need easy changes without
reboot

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 8:35 PM Jaime Solorza
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have zero issues with Cradlepoint Aer1600... T-MOBILE ,
Wi-Fi and LAN connectionsI can use two SIM cards if I
need

Jaime Solorza

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 6:40 PM Steve Jones
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

May be looking for two separate items here. And rehashing
the site remote acces questions.
I prefer a multicarrier option, that way if im in the
tech van and its verizon sim isnt getting quality id like
to drop my att straight talk sim in and get interwebs.
I prefer mikrotik. I currently use an air router for the
install truck and with ip aliases i can access all our
radios directly from a phone and our long test cable.
Except not 169.254.1.1 because ubnt chose to hardcode
that. If the radio connects to our network then we have
access to our network from our phone. Having the cellular
option adds public side access. Plus google earth needs a
live connection to plot link paths onsite, i did it today
on a 300k hotspot from my workphone...aweful.
I would like external wifi and cellular antenna options
so i dont have to hang this out the window in a ziplock
baggie, looks kind of ghetto, but it also needs to be
able to be made portable if im testing where i cant get
the van close enough to operate off the test cables and
have to operate off ac site power or out of radio range
of the van antenna.

Then, of course external remote site access. We had a
site router hang the other day and had to drive to the
site with a subscriber to connect from the ground and
reboot the ups, otherwise we would have had to climb or
trip the breaker and wait for the battery to die

Re: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue

[George Skorup]

What kind of router/firewall are you working with? No audio is usually a 
SIP ALG thing. You need the ALG on to rewrite the SIP headers when 
behind NAT.


On 4/8/2018 2:30 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Tried both ways, no joy.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote:



Are they behind nat?

Sounds like it might be a reinvite issue, asterisk will try to get 
out of the audio path by telling the endpoints to talk directly to 
each other.   If nat is involved asterisk will often tell the 
endpoints to talk directly even if they have no direct connection 
between them.


Disabling reinvite may help if this is the case.

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018, 11:27 AM Chuck McCown > wrote:


Pulling our hair out.  The Aastra phones will call each other, we
can send dtmf but no audio. Linksys sip ata does the same thing. 
These were working, very frustrating.

Re: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue

[Paul Stewart]

I would add that when SIP ALG is on with some routers it breaks things too … 
point being to try it both ways ☺

 

From: Af  on behalf of George Skorup 

Reply-To: 
Date: Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 5:29 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue

 

What kind of router/firewall are you working with? No audio is usually a SIP 
ALG thing. You need the ALG on to rewrite the SIP headers when behind NAT.

On 4/8/2018 2:30 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Tried both ways, no joy.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 8, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
 wrote:

Are they behind nat? 

 

Sounds like it might be a reinvite issue, asterisk will try to get out of the 
audio path by telling the endpoints to talk directly to each other.   If nat is 
involved asterisk will often tell the endpoints to talk directly even if they 
have no direct connection between them.

 

Disabling reinvite may help if this is the case.

 

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018, 11:27 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

Pulling our hair out.  The Aastra phones will call each other, we can send dtmf 
but no audio.  Linksys sip ata does the same thing.  These were working, very 
frustrating.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue

[David Thake]

Have you run a pcap at both ends?

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 9, 2018, at 12:24 AM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
> 
> I would add that when SIP ALG is on with some routers it breaks things too … 
> point being to try it both ways ☺
>  
> From: Af  on behalf of George Skorup 
> 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 5:29 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue
>  
> What kind of router/firewall are you working with? No audio is usually a SIP 
> ALG thing. You need the ALG on to rewrite the SIP headers when behind NAT.
> 
> On 4/8/2018 2:30 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> Tried both ways, no joy.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 8, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are they behind nat?
>  
> Sounds like it might be a reinvite issue, asterisk will try to get out of the 
> audio path by telling the endpoints to talk directly to each other.   If nat 
> is involved asterisk will often tell the endpoints to talk directly even if 
> they have no direct connection between them.
>  
> Disabling reinvite may help if this is the case.
>  
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018, 11:27 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
> Pulling our hair out.  The Aastra phones will call each other, we can send 
> dtmf but no audio.  Linksys sip ata does the same thing.  These were working, 
> very frustrating. 
> 
> 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue

[Faisal Imtiaz]

not sure what you are doing.. but do you have can re-invite on ? 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
http://www.snappytelecom.net 

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Chuck McCown" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 2:27:28 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue

> Pulling our hair out. The Aastra phones will call each other, we can send dtmf
> but no audio. Linksys sip ata does the same thing. These were working, very
> frustrating.

Re: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Sorry.. saw that was already asked. 

Another item that will break audio is if there is a codec mis-match or codec is 
not enabled ... 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
http://www.snappytelecom.net 

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 6:35:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue

> not sure what you are doing.. but do you have can re-invite on ?

> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> http://www.snappytelecom.net

> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>> From: "Chuck McCown" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 2:27:28 PM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue

>> Pulling our hair out. The Aastra phones will call each other, we can send 
>> dtmf
>> but no audio. Linksys sip ata does the same thing. These were working, very
>> frustrating.

Re: [AFMUG] Little DC Connector

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Is that the same thing as on a PacketFlux site monitor?

 

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 9:12 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Little DC Connector

 

 



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions  
   
  
  
 
Midwest Internet Exchange  
   
  
 
The Brothers WISP  
  


 



From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 6:09:57 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Little DC Connector

Where can I get more of these?

Well, probably lots of places, but I don't know what they're called, part 
number, etc.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions  
   
  
  
 
Midwest Internet Exchange  
   
  
 
The Brothers WISP  
  


 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Little DC Connector

[Lewis Bergman]

Phoenix contact pluggable terminal block

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018, 7:13 PM Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
wrote:

> Is that the same thing as on a PacketFlux site monitor?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Monday, April 9, 2018 9:12 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Little DC Connector
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
>
> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Sunday, April 8, 2018 6:09:57 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Little DC Connector
>
> Where can I get more of these?
>
> Well, probably lots of places, but I don't know what they're called, part
> number, etc.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue

[Lewis Bergman]

When all else fails, try tcp instead of udp.

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018, 5:39 PM Faisal Imtiaz  wrote:

> Sorry.. saw that was already asked.
>
> Another item that will break audio is if there is a codec mis-match or
> codec is not enabled ...
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Faisal Imtiaz" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Sunday, April 8, 2018 6:35:46 PM
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue
>
> not sure what you are doing.. but do you have can re-invite on ?
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Chuck McCown" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Sunday, April 8, 2018 2:27:28 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT SIP issue
>
> Pulling our hair out.  The Aastra phones will call each other, we can send
> dtmf but no audio.  Linksys sip ata does the same thing.  These were
> working, very frustrating.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Little DC Connector

[Jaime Solorza]

Might have some in shop but I won't be there all week...

Jaime Solorza

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018, 8:59 PM Lewis Bergman  wrote:

> Phoenix contact pluggable terminal block
>
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018, 7:13 PM Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) <
> r...@latrobeit.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Is that the same thing as on a PacketFlux site monitor?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 9, 2018 9:12 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Little DC Connector
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 8, 2018 6:09:57 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Little DC Connector
>>
>> Where can I get more of these?
>>
>> Well, probably lots of places, but I don't know what they're called, part
>> number, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Little DC Connector

[Faisal Imtiaz]

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xplugable+terminal+block.TRS0&_nkw=plugable+terminal+block&_sacat=0
 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
http://www.snappytelecom.net 

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 7:11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Little DC Connector

> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions

> Midwest Internet Exchange

> The Brothers WISP

> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 6:09:57 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Little DC Connector

> Where can I get more of these?

> Well, probably lots of places, but I don't know what they're called, part
> number, etc.

> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions

> Midwest Internet Exchange

> The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Little DC Connector

[TJ Trout]

I have maybe ten of those exact ones if u want them

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Where can I get more of these?
>
> Well, probably lots of places, but I don't know what they're called, part
> number, etc.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
>

[AFMUG] WANTED: Used 320 Access Point, maybe with bad RF or something similar

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

I've never been able to procure a 320 access point for my lab, always been
able to borrow one, and that's not a possiblity anymore.

Is there by chance someone on the list with a 320 access point on the shelf
that they would like to get rid of for next to nothing?   I need it to
power on and be able to receive sync, anything else I don't really care
about unless it affects poweron and sync testing.   I.E. I don't really
care if the rf side works reliably, but I would care if the sync is blown
out, or the radio wasn't stable (crashes, reboots, etc) since those would
impact my ability to verify proper operation of the radio.

-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com