Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Vince West
I am not 100% sure on this, but I have only been loading XM firmware with NSM, Rockets and NanoBridges. For anything newer, like the NanoBeams we have been using the XW firmware. I have seen pretty decent improvements on throughput in some of my rocket APs since we did these software upgrades. I

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
No. Different architecture. Think compiled for Arm vs x86 Windows. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 4, 2015 11:05 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: I thought the XM versus XW was just a hardware thing. Is it

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Rory Conaway
And I’m not seeing the problem where I have XW clients talking to XM Rockets. Now that I think about it, I had the Powerbeam as the station and the PowerBridge as the AP. Dang, should have flipped that and retested. The thing that caught me off guard is that this has been working for several

Re: [AFMUG] New Satellite Canopy radio

2015-03-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
not mine...I haven't done any Canopy installs in over 5 years... Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Tighten that jpole, put some umph into it!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] New Satellite Canopy radio

2015-03-04 Thread Tyler Treat
?and a bunch of self taps!!! and baling wire! From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Satellite Canopy radio Tighten that jpole, put

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Bill Prince
That's what I thought. The way some people were talking about it, it sounded like I misunderstood. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/4/2015 8:08 AM, Ty Featherling wrote: Yeah XM devices need XM firmware, XW devices need XW. Different hardware. -Ty On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Mathew Howard
What sort of problems were you seeing with WDS on Nanobeams? Was it Nanobeams on both ends? I know you've posted about it before, but I don't remember what exactly the issue was. On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I've found that Nanobeams have

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
Going to install our first NanoBeam to NanoBeam link on Friday at seven mileslets see how well they work. on bench they did great. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I know that was some

Re: [AFMUG] About $12k

2015-03-04 Thread Matt
Quite not the case. Ever price typical LTE? And our licenses you own once first bought, with no annual renewals. Thought there was an annual license fee to get firmware updates etc? Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Glen Waldrop
On list could be educational for the rest of us. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Who's you guys? I didn't work here when these decisions were made. :) Some day maybe you can fill me in on what's been done wrong.

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Vince West
I should have been more clear on that one. We don't have any new rockets deployed. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: New

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Ty Featherling
Only issue I have had with the new hardware is three cases now of Nanobeam M2s connected to RocketM2 APs. Once was too hot and performed like crap even when intentionally mis-aligned to reduce signal. The other two were both connected to a sector and when I switched the sector from 10mhz channel

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Always listen to the manufacturer. I don't anyone has ever come up with a case where their figure was noticeably off. Certainly never not on the side of caution. Are you using their full tx power or the tx power of the highest modulation? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Bill Prince
I thought the XM versus XW was just a hardware thing. Is it possible to update a device that is on XM with XW? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/4/2015 8:03 AM, Vince West wrote: I am not 100% sure on this, but I have only been loading XM firmware with NSM, Rockets and NanoBridges. For

[AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hello Smart Dudes on the list: Running a 3.348 mile path for 18 Ghz Dragonwave link to compare what someone else came up with.I am wondering if they used just unfaded free space loss calculation and coming up with a figure 10dB better than mine, I am using unfaded urban area free space loss

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
I noticed that, good thing you caught it =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Hardy, Tim tha...@comsearch.com wrote: (+/- 2.0 db)! *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Hardy,

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hum...I have always used it this way and have good results. I know from experience that funny things happen above 10GHz...guess all this new fangled stuff is showing my age. but I still hold that monopole moves just enough to affect stability of link. That's my story and I am sticking to it..

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Gino Villarini
Patrick, please recheck with nick on that.. AFAIK MUMIMO requires diff HW/ Antennas? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 3/4/15, 1:32 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: QAM256 is not new hardware, neither is

Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
It is the same reason (the same concept at least) Marriot was fined $600k. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D05677.91368270]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:52 AM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] SLA

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
Not trying to be cagey below; I'm just cautious. If I answer that question, it is a lot like answering when I stopped beating my wife. If I answered, competion would be cutting and pasting to make it look like we charge SLAs JUST for software updates. We do not. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735

Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..

2015-03-04 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I have heard reports of operators in TN doing this and they were never shut down - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. That's called malicious

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Hardy, Tim
So, assuming 2’ antennas at 38.7 dBi, your RSLs should be around -33.8 dBm (+/1 2.0 dB) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question I have never had problems using

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Rory Conaway
Not as bad and with RF Armor, even better. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:02 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware are they as leaky RF wise as Rockets? Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

2015-03-04 Thread Adam Moffett
Are you reserving the 100 seats, or is it first come first serve? When: Thursday, March 05, 2015 2:00 PM-3:30 PM (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US Canada). Where: via link below AND call in number Note: The GMT offset above does not reflect daylight saving time adjustments. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
It's because you weren't taught this common core math garbage! =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Wow ..close... I come up with 132.89 dB FSL and

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
The FCC document they gave me says 21 dBm tx power and that what is set on radios according to guy who hired me to help verify path. One 3 ft dish is on huge guyed tower and another on a monopole with several other drums and a sectors.They experience signal drops during high winds. my guess

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
-30.39 dB FSL -40.41 dB urban area FSL report says 42db on antennas and -27.5 dB so if I adjust mine I am -28.39dB. what a few dB's among friends? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Hardy, Tim tha...@comsearch.com wrote: So, assuming

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

2015-03-04 Thread Steve D
Will it be recorded? -Steve D On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Damn. I will be on tower if radio is bad or on drive back to El Paso on Thursday afternoon . Next time Jaime Solorza On Mar 3, 2015 7:25 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Hardy, Tim
Sounds logical – a 3’ dish at 2° would be down about 10 dB and at 3° about 20 dB according to the pattern From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:14 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question Hum...I have

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
I can and should Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D05677.776D1980]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve D Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:52 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG Will

Re: [AFMUG] About $12k

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
No. SLA, yes, but SLAs are normal to maintain support and to get software upgrades (not just bug fixes)...and in our case, soon network monitoring free for the first year from our own data center. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -Original Message- From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
I don't need to check Gino. Gone over this a million times. No change in BTS OR CPE. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] About $12k

2015-03-04 Thread Adam Moffett
On 3/4/2015 11:44 AM, Matt wrote: Quite not the case. Ever price typical LTE? And our licenses you own once first bought, with no annual renewals. Thought there was an annual license fee to get firmware updates etc? Nope.

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Chuck McCown
I have never had problems using simple free space path loss for these frequencies. I doubt there is significant cable or waveguide loss. Dragonwaves mount to the antenna and the gain of the antenna is at the interface. 96.6 + 20logD + 20log F Where F D are GHz and Miles. 96.6 + 10.5 +

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
Wow ..close... I come up with 132.89 dB FSL and 143.41 dB urban area FSL ..so I guess if I back out the 2dB loss I am within 1.2dB of the calculations sent to me. Okay i am close. Cool...I can still add and subtract..yeah me! Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Hardy, Tim
(+/- 2.0 db)! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question So, assuming 2’ antennas at 38.7 dBi, your RSLs should be around -33.8 dBm (+/1 2.0 dB) From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
Not wrong, just different. You guys are splitting aren't you? Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D05676.AF602DB0]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 10:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Gino Villarini
cool, good to know! Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 3/4/15, 1:42 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: I don't need to check Gino. Gone over this a million times. No change in BTS OR CPE. Patrick Leary M

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Chuck McCown
Monopoles are subject to the vortex shedding problem causing them to oscillate. If the axis of the sway causes the dish to aim high and then low it would do exactly what Jaime is guessing it is doing. I would suggest mount the antennas lower if possible and/or use smaller dishes. There is

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Originally MT to Nanostation. Worked for years. Wanted to upgrade, slapped on a Nanobeam (higher gain). MT to Nanobeam wouldn't do WDS. Ubnt said they can't support it because they're not both Ubnt. Nanostation to Nanobeam wouldn't do WDS. Ubnt said they can't support it because they're not

Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..

2015-03-04 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
truer words haven't been spoken... - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. My larger point is that none of us should turn off our intellectual honesty

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Rory Conaway
I’m got a pile of PowerBeam/NanoBeam or whatever you call them PTP links up and they work fine. They would work better with DFS on the shorter links but a couple of them are 10 miles. I’m running 5MHz channels on the longer ones though, high-interference environments. Rory From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread David
+1 On 03/04/2015 11:02 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: It's because you weren't taught this common core math garbage! =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com

Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..

2015-03-04 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Did you ever talk to any of your state reps in congress? - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. Yep, lived it. The discussions PGE ended

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
logical? Me? Hum, glad I watched every Star Trek episode...even the cartoons! Live Long and Prosper Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Hardy, Tim tha...@comsearch.com wrote: Sounds logical – a 3’ dish at 2° would be down about 10 dB and

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Bill Prince
I would think the other way. Many guyed towers are not 100% stable in rotation, and running a PTP link from one would likely require torque arrestors. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/4/2015 8:51 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: The FCC document they gave me says 21 dBm tx power and that what is

Re: [AFMUG] About $12k

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
There is no SLA for just firmware updates. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k How much is the SLA for firmware updates?

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
Vortex shredding...What a terrifying phrase. All this winter the U.S. NE quadrant has been polar vortex shredded! Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D0567B.131B5970]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, March

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
With no noise, Nanobeams are just a dream. I have a link 11.2 miles with 95% airmax that are working beautifully. In another location the link is totally crap, even with a -60. The noise on the far tower just won't let it function. Note that ePMP worked very well as a replacement. Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
are they as leaky RF wise as Rockets? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: With no noise, Nanobeams are just a dream. I have a link 11.2 miles with 95% airmax that are working beautifully. In

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
They have a shield for these as well? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: I like that they look like the Jupiter 2 on the 19dB version Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Mathew Howard
well, that seems logical... you'd think UBNT would know that they made the nanostation. The only issues I've seen with NanoBeams have been a random reboot thing I've been trying to figure out... I was wondering if it might be related to the WDS thing, but I'm pretty sure it's just bad radios in

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
I have no mechanism that reserves. I openly put the invite on the list; the first 100 in get in. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D05676.1C466710]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:59 AM

Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..

2015-03-04 Thread Jerry Richardson
Fortunately we did not have a lot of users on 900, we were using it for distance but once we found the WARM grid antennas we were able to get stable links on 2.4 Just wasn’t worth the fight. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Wednesday, March 04,

Re: [AFMUG] About $12k

2015-03-04 Thread Matt
How much is the SLA for firmware updates? On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: No. SLA, yes, but SLAs are normal to maintain support and to get software upgrades (not just bug fixes)...and in our case, soon network monitoring free for the first year

[AFMUG] poll: do you do your own DNS entirely in house?

2015-03-04 Thread e...@kuhnke-international.com
Ex: Authoritative ns1 and ns2 for your domains, ns3 authoritative in a different geographical location? Recursive/caching for clients? Control all your own MX and SPF records?

Re: [AFMUG] SLA

2015-03-04 Thread Jason McKemie
So is there any way to get software updates outside of the SLA? On Wednesday, March 4, 2015, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: Not trying to be cagey below; I'm just cautious. If I answer that question, it is a lot like answering when I stopped beating my wife. If I answered,

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Stefan Englhardt
PW is not SDR based So call their Distributors and tell them to change their announcements. Just google Purwave and SDR and you find some.

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux basic versus parasitic?

2015-03-04 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Uh, no. Definitely not good. Here's one of mine for comparison. Which is also where I'm having odd issues with two 3GHz 450 sectors. Not to mention the same problems at sites with parasitics. I have another SyncInjector at another site running a 5GHz 450 AP and it works fine. Plus dozens and

[AFMUG] 3.65 Wimax

2015-03-04 Thread Philip Rankin
Hey all, I'm curious, whom on the list is operating 3.65 GHz Wimax and what Base Station equipment do you operate? More specifically, is anyone using Purewave 6636 base stations? phil -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762

Re: [AFMUG] About $12k

2015-03-04 Thread Matt
There is no SLA for just firmware updates. So if I want a firmware update say over a year after purchase how much would that cost? If I must have SLA to do that how much is that? Matt, I am a skeptic too, and it's always wise to watch vendors for slippery language, but I can tell you the

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
Why is it not software defined? Because DAN owned the core WIMAX software? Purewave claimed to have purchased the rights to make their own mods, that was one of their claimed advantages over PMP320. Not sure what Mercury would say now. But don't they have a proprietary enhanced (but not LTE)

Re: [AFMUG] About $12k

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
True about the pull vs. push. That is one of the things Mimosa has done so well -- tools to manage the entire life cycle of the purchase experience. Their online mechanisms are fantastic. We are lacking on that side, but we are deep in the process of fixing it. When Telrad took over that side

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
That may be a good point Ken. I am using the SDR term in the sense that Vanu Bose used it, who is one of the inventors. He explained this to me and other invited panelists on the FCC's Spectrum Policy Task Force in 2002. I'm using it in the sense of materially changing a piece of equipment from

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco Router VLAN

2015-03-04 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
That would make it untagged. I think dot1q on the physical interface and then dot1q sub-interfaces would give you QinQ. Never tried it. I don't have much Cisco VLAN experience outside of switching. Mikrotik is so much easier.. and cheaper. :) On 3/4/2015 2:11 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: What

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux basic versus parasitic?

2015-03-04 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Looks like the GPS is losing lock. The counters I'm talking about are on the analog tab On Mar 4, 2015 8:58 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: I reset these counters about a week ago. I think this is not normal? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/4/2015 1:57 AM, Forrest

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Not OSHA approved. I have a few spare ones you can borrow for a Compact. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: I think I need to get my old hard hat out of

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Adam Moffett
Almost everybody who has an SDR sells you on the notion that it can be upgraded later. Almost nobody ever actually does anything more than bug fixes, or minor tweaks. I think the only way Telrad might be odd with their SDR is that they actually made different firmware to convert the unit

Re: [AFMUG] About $12k

2015-03-04 Thread Adam Moffett
On 3/4/2015 1:40 PM, Matt wrote: There is no SLA for just firmware updates. So if I want a firmware update say over a year after purchase how much would that cost? If I must have SLA to do that how much is that? Matt, I am a skeptic too, and it's always wise to watch vendors for slippery

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Jon Auer
Purewave claiming SDR because they can add proprietary extensions seems like Ubiquiti claiming to be SDR because they licensed Atheros driver code so they could make AirMax. I always thought SDR meant the signal processing, anything to do with making sense of the RF, happened in software (FPGA

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Bill Prince
We do have one sub on a XW nanobeam running 5.6_beta talking to an XM rocket on WDS. No issues. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/4/2015 11:11 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Not seeing this on m2 or m5 nanobeams. Maybe you had bad hardware? :: Josh Reynolds, CIO, SPITwSPOTS - Pardon any

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
You are the subject, sir. Just not of this thread. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: Damn, how did my name get in the subject? *Sent from my Verizon

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
That's the understanding of the term that I share. Thank you Jon. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID On Mar 4, 2015 2:15 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Purewave claiming SDR because they can add proprietary extensions seems like Ubiquiti claiming to be SDR because they licensed

Re: [AFMUG] poll: do you do your own DNS entirely in house?

2015-03-04 Thread Jon Auer
Work: Authoritative: Yes, working on anycast via different datacenters with different ASNs instead of your ns3 example. Recursive: Yes, anycasted from multiple datacenters. Personal/consulting authoritative: Amazon Route53. I got back and forth on putting all authoritative on Route53. We host

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
Damn, how did my name get in the subject? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID On Mar 4, 2015 2:17 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Ubiquiti claimed carrier grade, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
I think it’s done all the time with the stuff the cellcos are deploying. Probably limited only by antennas. No way are they changing out basestations for every protocol or spectrum change like they did in the past. There are even systems where the software defined radio is remote in a

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

2015-03-04 Thread Chuck McCown
Well, I got it... but I am not so tense today. From: Paul McCall Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG Yeah, I knew that… my attempt at levity, because the AFMUG list seems “tense” today J From:

Re: [AFMUG] About $12k

2015-03-04 Thread Adam Moffett
On 3/4/2015 1:21 PM, Matt wrote: There is no SLA for just firmware updates. So if I want a firmware update say over a year after purchase how much would that cost? If I must have SLA to do that how much is that? Matt, I am a skeptic too, and it's always wise to watch vendors for slippery

Re: [AFMUG] poll: do you do your own DNS entirely in house?

2015-03-04 Thread That One Guy
we do ns1 and 2 authoritative and are building caching today. For our size operation there probably isnt a great deal of benefit to it, but it makes us feel like we are big time On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:16 PM, e...@kuhnke-international.com e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: Ex:

Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

2015-03-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
The guyed tower looks solidly built and guyed when I saw it a few weeks ago on way to find a restaurant in Midland. 275 footer with dish at 150ft level Jaime Solorza On Mar 4, 2015 10:44 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Monopoles are subject to the vortex shedding problem causing them

Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

2015-03-04 Thread Jon Auer
They target the enterprise market. Way easier to work with than Cisco's enterprise WiFi system IMO. My apartment is a RF mess in 2.4Ghz. I've been cycling through WiFi vendors every quarter or two for the past couple of years to see how their products behave between my work, my wife's streaming

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux basic versus parasitic?

2015-03-04 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Hey Forrest, any luck on the updated build for the Base-1's, minus the web GUI of course? I would really like to get the .0 row via SNMPwalk so my indexed Cacti template works for both Base-1's and 2's. On 3/4/2015 3:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: There are some pulse counts

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti radios with different xm/xw firmware

2015-03-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
Not seeing this on m2 or m5 nanobeams. Maybe you had bad hardware? :: Josh Reynolds, CIO, SPITwSPOTS - Pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile device On Mar 4, 2015 7:21 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:Ive found that Nanobeams have problems with WDS.  I tried 5.5.9

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Ubiquiti claimed carrier grade, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Purewave claiming SDR because they can add proprietary extensions seems like Ubiquiti claiming

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
Its tomorrow Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID On Mar 4, 2015 2:40 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: OK, I’m connected. It says “waiting for organizer”. So, what do I do for the next 23 hours and 20 minutes? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Chuck McCown
Years ago I dug into the LTE protocol to see what it really was. My recollection is it is a collection of a bunch of different modulation formats that can be used as appropriate. I think it was expandable and built for future flavors of modulation. Seems like one of the formats was very much

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
No chin strap, so yes definitely useless for climbing. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID On Mar 4, 2015 2:35 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Not OSHA approved. I have a few spare ones you can borrow for a Compact. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
Alvarion had that as a dream, but was never able to realize it. It was only achieved under the Telrad banner, but yes I do remember some months back more a competing vendor telling people it was impossible to convert from WiMAX to LTE without a hardware change. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
Correct. That was an important achievement that deserves recognition. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D0568B.54286240]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..

2015-03-04 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
understand - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. Fortunately we did not have a lot of users on 900, we were using it for distance but once we

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

2015-03-04 Thread David
Patrick, We embrace change and evolution its what has kept this company going for 3 generations. I just think of new tech as a chance to evolve or have that extra tool in the toolbox If you can please send me some specs on the gear and the antennas or brochures. Thanks Dave On 03/04/2015

Re: [AFMUG] Welcome to the Af mailing list

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
'Tis a fine day, laddy! Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Welcome to the Af mailing list Test, I'm back!

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
I don't care for brochures. May I send you actual manuals? Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D0568F.9B1B8B10]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Jon Paul Kelley
I will beg to differ. The cellcos are constantly changing radios. My dealing are with ATT and VZW. The old analog bays were swapped for CDMA(Verizon) and TDMA(ATT) style radios. Completely different radio sets. Then LTE launched. Verizon installed brand new Lucent LTE base stations. Now with xLTE,

Re: [AFMUG] Welcome to the Af mailing list

2015-03-04 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
well lookee here! - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Welcome to the Af mailing list Test, I'm back! Respectively, Rick Harnish Broadband Consultant Industry Analyst

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

2015-03-04 Thread David
Please try again. Your ip was on a Mid-evil blacklist I had in place a few years back. Thanks Dave On 03/04/2015 02:34 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: David, direct mails to you get bounced back...Have an alternative mail? *Patrick Leary* ***M*727.501.3735 http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet *From:*Af

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
Please send me a name, offlist. My understanding has been otherwise and very clearly so. I am going to verify though. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:21 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Stefan Englhardt
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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ack....here we go again

2015-03-04 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
Sweet Home Alabama. Roll Tide Jay. When is the next meeting. I want to come. Time to hit the Sea-N-Suds on a 95’ day. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online:

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
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