We just had a new public library built here in town. The entire LAN
infrastructure is built on PON using the Tellabs ONT's.
http://www01.tellabs.com/products/tellabs1100ont.shtml I've briefly
looked around their site, and read some case studies, but Why would you
choose PON infrastructure in
The sales pitches I've seen push the green aspect, you use a lot less
power with PON than you do running a bunch of SFP switches, plus reduced
install costs and cable management without all the full home runs. But you
only save money with really big installs from what I've seen.
--
IgniteNet
It's probably part of a standard product delivery .. the GPON ends up being
a demarcation point to the customer.
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:49 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?
We
But Why? I understand Long haul PON for FTTH, to conserve miles and
miles of trunk fiber, but why in a building? Instead of having a single
device (a switch) you now have active hardware all over the building to
manage and maintain (And power).
On 6/23/2015 10:08 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
If the Desktop NIC can talk directly to the PON, that totally makes
sense. But why run PON to the wall/Cube just to terminate into RJ45
that you still have to power? And you're still going to have Wifi
AP's/VoIP handsets that will require power at the endpoint (one could
argue, at every desk
Was it done with E-Rate money?
Is the service provider managing the internal network?
Maybe this is their MTU architecture.
From: Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?
If the Desktop NIC can talk directly to the PON, that
PON looks to be where people are going for fiber to the desktop.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
To: Animal Farm
The more PON we do, the more I like it.
Regards,
Chuck
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
PON to the desktop would only have active gear in the NOC and in the
device. Everything between is passive.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
At least their website is back up.
Mark were these antennas for storm repair, or something already in the works?
I could run stuff down to them if they are needing it for repairs.
According to the news though, they are not letting traffic into Coal City.
From: Super WISP
Sent: Tuesday, June 23,
Hmm no distance limit , no distributed switches
On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
PON looks to be where people are going for fiber to the desktop.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
Haven’t heard from them yet. Ceasar was supposed to come by and pick up some
antennas today, but I’m sure they are really busy. I was on the northern
fringe about 30 miles north of the storms last night in Plainfield/Joliet and
could see constant lightning going on for quite a while. Heard
Ok, have a VLAN issue I cannot seem to beat.
Am at the point of willing to pay someone more expreienced than
me to resolve this so I can move forward.
I have quite a few VLANs going to a Cisco 7206VXR and all those
are working fine (even the ones coming through/from mikrotik boxes).
This one is
PON to the desktop would only have active gear in the NOC and in the device.
Everything between is passive.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: Nate Burke
I think I am over paying for these. I only buy 10 at a time, but I am paying
$55 a piece. Anyone want to get rid of 10 of them for cheaper?
Craig R. Schmaderer
CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
Direct: 402-372-1052
Tried to get in this morning, and I get a page with this:
*An Error has occurred. Please contact Technical Support*
http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls/support/index.html
Phone (877) 480-3201
TTY (717) 338-2824
And report the following information.
Error at Tue, Jun 23 at 11:52:56
It is extremely SLWWW today..
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC ULS broken?
I was getting that just trying to log in.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/23/2015 8:59 AM, Hardy,
A customer of mine has a couple hundred Verizon hotspots and is looking at
external antenna solutions. The adapter cable and window mount antenna from
Verizon look like a shitty solution. The connector on the hotspot looks like
MMCX, but poking around on some sites it looks like it could be an
Its working for me, but I just searched for a license.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 11:55 AM
To: Motorola III
Subject: [AFMUG] FCC ULS broken?
Tried to get in this morning, and I get a page with this:
An Error has occurred. Please
Are you scared of vendor lock-in with PON? That’s what scares me. Calix
jacking up their rates without any recourse but swapping equipment on both
sides.
On Jun 23, 2015, at 10:08 AM, KevinR gol...@genevaonline.com wrote:
Chuck,
Can you tell us what vendors are working for you?
I
Do they have just a standard PON box at each desktop? If so, that's critically
stupid. PON to the wall is friggin dumb. PON to an SFP in the machine is what
they should be doing.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
I was getting that just trying to log in.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/23/2015 8:59 AM, Hardy, Tim wrote:
Its working for me, but I just searched for a license.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2015 11:55 AM
*To:* Motorola III
Tessco or Wilson would be my first call
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
A customer of mine has a couple hundred Verizon hotspots and is looking at
external
I did not see any pon to desktop. Only ONT's in the wall where normally you
would have ethernet drops, or the 4port model with a wallwort to run voip
handsets mounted on the wall.
On June 23, 2015 11:01:38 AM CDT, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
Do they have just a standard PON box at
It was for something in the works Ken.
Mark Chamerlik
WAV®, Inc
Strategic Account Manager East Coast
630-818-1004 Direct
630-818-4452 Fax
800-678-2419 X 1004 Toll Free
ma...@wavonline.commailto:ma...@wavonline.com (OR URGENT NEEDS TO
tea...@wavonline.commailto:tea...@wavonline.com)
From: Af
It's letting me in now.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/23/2015 9:11 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
That part is normal.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/23/2015 9:09 AM, Hardy, Tim wrote:
It is extremely SLWWW today..
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
I agree. Does such a creature exist?
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?
Do they have just a standard PON box at each desktop? If so, that's critically
stupid. PON to the wall is friggin dumb. PON to an SFP in the
I think Calix has come down over time.
From: Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?
Are you scared of vendor lock-in with PON? That’s what scares me. Calix
jacking up their rates without any recourse but swapping
Their support certainly has not.
On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I think Calix has come down over time.
*From:* Cassidy B. Larson
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','c...@infowest.com');
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:33 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
Chuck,
Can you tell us what vendors are working for you?
I know you have said you have tried a few.
On Jun 23, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
The more PON we do, the more I like it.
Regards,
Chuck
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Mike Hammett
That part is normal.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/23/2015 9:09 AM, Hardy, Tim wrote:
It is extremely SLWWW today..
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:08 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC ULS broken?
I
Must be your ISP.
Complain to the FCC.
From: Hardy, Tim
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 11:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC ULS broken?
It is extremely SLWWW today..
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:08 PM
To:
When we were at the FTTH show a couple years ago they were showing these
for enterprise.
https://svnw1.tellabs.com/library/enterprise/products/ont-series/Tellabs_100_Series_Mini_Optical_Network_Terminals_(ONTs).pdf
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I
Calix is very widely deployed in areas I’ve dealt with … also Adtran TA5000
with PON is gaining traction with lots of customers… both have pros/cons in my
opinion…
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject:
It's the new south fire station that the Nov 17th tornado just missed. I
heard their 180 foot Pirod collapsed on the building while they were all
inside taking cover last night. Haven't been down there to see it yet.
I have no idea how we still have an office. Buildings right across the
It looks like around 9:43 last night their routing advertisements shifted from
being almost solely TINet to being almost solely ATT by 9:46.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original
FYI,
If you wanted to run BGP, you would need the following:-
1) An ASN from ARIN
2) Your upstream providers agreement to change your connection to BGP.
3) Hardware (Router(s)) capable of running BGP.
4) If your ip blocks are /24 or smaller prefix (i.e. blocks of Class C), you
can ask your
Just out of curiousity what exactly was sold.
I would have bought 100 units for 450 myself just to resell on ebay
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Daniel Gerlach danielgerl...@gmail.com
wrote:
they are sold
2015-06-22 16:43 GMT+02:00 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com:
100 count 5.4
you can 100 more for the same price,, if you want. But i takes some time..
2015-06-23 8:11 GMT+02:00 That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com:
Just out of curiousity what exactly was sold.
I would have bought 100 units for 450 myself just to resell on ebay
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:49
Ill buy pmp100 all day for 4.50 a piece if anyone is selling them
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:40 AM, Daniel Gerlach danielgerl...@gmail.com
wrote:
you can 100 more for the same price,, if you want. But i takes some time..
2015-06-23 8:11 GMT+02:00 That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
Here is my opinion based on my very limited experience so far.
Banks around here won't loan on anything but collateral. Period.
You can have the best business plan in the world, but they want to see the
venture already running with your own stake already in the game. And even then
they take ALL
Thanks sterling !
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
- Reply message -
From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] fiber fiber fiber yes fiber please
Date: Tue, Jun 23, 2015 10:58 PM
Here is my opinion based on my very
Greetings everyone.
My mission this week (this month?) is to put together a presentation to talk
with local banks with to
fund our fiber dreams. Those of you who have built and have statistics
available - could you answer
these two questions please?
What is your take rate? (30%? 50%?
:(
- Original Message -
From: George Skorup
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Illinois storms.
Oh wait, I forgot the 'kill me'.
On 6/22/2015 11:36 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Oh hell...
Josh Luthman
Office:
Channels are to narrow to do much more than 5-10mbps aggregate.
Have you tried Telrad 3.65 LTE? Works great for us.
-Sean
On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone here have any experience with any TV white space gear? We have
an area which we are
Not from the pricing I've seen... much less capacity though.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
TVWS might actually cost *more* than Telrad.
On 6/23/2015 7:22 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
We've been considering trying Telrad, but I'm not sure we would be
FCC doesn't currently allow channel bonding (as far as I know)
On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
Runcomm talks about ~20 meg per channel, two channels. Real throughput.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Bad units..two base systems.
On Jun 23, 2015 4:24 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote:
Like didn't work or got fried?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 23, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:
Condor Communications lost 25 k in bad gear
On Jun 23, 2015
Hey all
I have an miktroik question to ask you all to see if this would be able to work
on MK lets say I have 2 different ISP's going into MK
and I want to have an failover connection encase one fiber connection go downs
and I have an back up would this work:
What are your upstream connections?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 23, 2015 9:10 PM, Tim Reichhart timreichh...@hometowncable.net
wrote:
Hey all
I have an miktroik question to ask you all to see if this would be able to
Are you just masquerading?
If so, then something like that should work well enough.
If you are routing public space behind your router, then it won't work.
You would need BGP or temporary masquerading of the public block on the
non-native route or something like that.
-Original
Sterling
I got 2 different IP blocks from 2 different providers and I dont have my own
IP space yet but looking to do something soon.
I dont have have BGP setup or anything like that. I just have stock MK setup
right now.
Tim
-Original Message-
From: Sterling Jacobson
Like didn't work or got fried?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 23, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Condor Communications lost 25 k in bad gear
On Jun 23, 2015 4:12 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Run away from Runncom
On Jun 23, 2015
TVWS might actually cost *more* than Telrad.
On 6/23/2015 7:22 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
We've been considering trying Telrad, but I'm not sure we would be
able to add enough customers on this particular site to justify the
cost. I'm mainly looking for a way to fix 10-15 customers who's
Runcomm talks about ~20 meg per channel, two channels. Real throughput.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us
To: af@afmug.com
Well, if you are worried about your own router going out, then you could set up
VRRP between the two routers and one will fail over for the other.
You could apply for ARIN ID number and have your providers SWIP the blocks to
you if they are /24 or larger.
Not sure they would be willing to hand
Run away from Runncom
On Jun 23, 2015 4:07 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone here have any experience with any TV white space gear? We have
an area which we are having difficulty covering because of tree issues and
TVWS seems like it might be viable.
The only
Condor Communications lost 25 k in bad gear
On Jun 23, 2015 4:12 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Run away from Runncom
On Jun 23, 2015 4:07 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone here have any experience with any TV white space gear? We
have an area
We've been considering trying Telrad, but I'm not sure we would be able to
add enough customers on this particular site to justify the cost. I'm
mainly looking for a way to fix 10-15 customers who's signals have gotten
too weak on 2.4ghz.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Sean Heskett
Does anyone here have any experience with any TV white space gear? We have
an area which we are having difficulty covering because of tree issues and
TVWS seems like it might be viable.
The only realistic looking options I see are Carlson and Runcomm, but I
have absolutely no experience with
I thought this might be interesting to y'all...
http://gizmodo.com/how-this-simple-landscaping-project-quiets-an-airports-1711815936
I'm working on a new one right now (ZTE), but I will say we have had issues
with Dasan. I would love to talk to someone who has deployed ZTE. We're
also evaluating Alphion.
Regards,
Chuck
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:08 PM, KevinR gol...@genevaonline.com wrote:
Chuck,
Can you tell us what
Oh wait, I forgot the 'kill me'.
On 6/22/2015 11:36 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Oh hell...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 23, 2015 12:30 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote:
I’m seeing reports
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