date:20160817

Re: [AFMUG] AE NID/ONT

2016-08-17 Thread fiberrun

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 8:14 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
> FML is all I have to say. If it was up to me, it'd be GPON.
So, why not put a splitter in the CO, use GPON and call it a day?

Do you need more than a hundred or so drops that they already have?

Jared

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT Update

2016-08-17 Thread George Skorup

Yeah, that's not normal behavior. I noticed this back on a couple of the 
13.4.1 beta builds for FSK. Happened on 2 or 3 APs. Rebooted APs, still 
did it. Then the last build or possibly the official build was done and 
it didn't happen again. It's not CNUT, it's the auto-update process on 
the radios. As far as I can tell anyway.


On 8/17/2016 9:31 AM, Matt wrote:

Was updating some SM's to 14.2 and noticed this annoying habit of CNUT
to update an SM even if it was already at 14.2.  In the past it would
state update not required.  Is there a setting somewhere for this?
This is with CNUT 4.9.18.

Re: [AFMUG] AE NID/ONT

2016-08-17 Thread Eric Kuhnke

AE with two strands to every house can be done properly from the outset if
somebody who knows what they're doing designs the OSP topology and
pedestal/cabinet locations and specs. Sounds like it was done by people
with more enthusiasm than experience and common sense. Sounds messy.



On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 8:14 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> Mainly because customers can't keep their hands off of the RB2011. And all
> we really need is a copper GigE demarc. I agree with Josh. I want to stay
> away from something as simple as a media converter-like device. Managed is
> preferred so we can keep an eye on Rx power levels, etc. And an outdoor
> NID/ONT-like device is easier for the contractor grunts to understand.
>
> I'll explain a little bit of the long story. We got involved in the
> project well after the planning stages, fiber was already in the ground.
> They had no idea what they were doing. The network owner got sold (more
> like pushed) into doing AE by, lets call them intellectual, theory oriented
> know-it-alls. You know, because it's more better, everybody will get a full
> gigabit... on a RB2011 that will do 400Mbps at best and wireless that isn't
> worth shit. I said, OK if that's what you want, that's fine. We can do bidi
> and put on twice the number of customers vs two-strand. You got 288 in the
> ground, we can connect 288 customers. Nope. Clearfield built them a couple
> HUNDRED pre-terminated duplex drop cables and a couple dozen peds designed
> for it.
>
> FML is all I have to say. If it was up to me, it'd be GPON.
>
>
> On 8/16/2016 9:30 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
> I've been using the RB260GS in an ONT enclosure. Also has a SFP cage. Any
> reason you need something natively outdoor?
>
> On Tuesday, August 16, 2016, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> Is anyone aware of an outdoor active ethernet NID? I see some stuff from
>> Adtran, Calix, etc, but it's all BiDi/WDM optics. Problem is, all of this
>> existing stuff is pre-terminated fixed duplex LC (they cannot be split).
>> Long story.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

2016-08-17 Thread Chuck McCown

I would replace every surge product at a site that got hit to maximize 
protection.
Outlet strips, mains power isoblocks etc.  

From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 10:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

So you're saying replace everything at the site?ï¿½ Or just the adjacent 
units?ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ I Have 16 of the GIGE-POE-APC units at that site.ï¿½ 

On 8/17/2016 10:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Best to assume any surge suppressor that has been expose to significant surge 
activity to be walking wounded.ï¿½ 
  ï¿½
  From: Nate Burke 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:40 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story
  ï¿½
  Here are Pics of some other GIGE-POE-APC units from the site that took the 
strike.ï¿½ These both were in an APC chassis with other units that were not 
affected.ï¿½ (the unit next to the left unit did have some residual scorch 
marks, but is still working).ï¿½ 

  The 48V power supply is still good, and the Airfiber is good. However, it did 
blow out the 48V DC-DC Converter (In place to fix voltage drop over the long 
cat5 run).ï¿½ The Unit on the left still had the Green LED on, but was not 
putting out any voltage on the Cat5.

  Nate

  On 8/11/2016 7:17 AM, Paul McCall wrote:

You slowing down in your old age Josh?

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 7:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

ï¿½

If you use Gmail you could simply star it or label it in 0.37 seconds...

ï¿½

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

ï¿½

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Thanks Nate,
  I really should archive these stories.ï¿½ I always say that every time 
and I never do.ï¿½ Wish I had saved all the photos over the years of this type 
of thing.

  -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
  Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 4:51 PM
  To: Animal Farm
  Subject: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

  I had a decommissioned and powered off LMG OMNI on a pole that also has
  an EPMP mounted to it.ï¿½ Lightening took out the Omni, as in bits of
  fiberglass were found around left over from the antenna.ï¿½ The EPMP
  sector 5' down the pole didn't even reboot.ï¿½ The EPMP along with all
  Backhauls at the site are powered with GIGE-POE-APC units. I didn't even
  know there was a strike until the people there told me about finding the
  bits of antenna around.ï¿½ I'm guessing the suppressors saved the rest of
  the equipment.

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

2016-08-17 Thread Nate Burke

So you're saying replace everything at the site?  Or just the adjacent 
units?I Have 16 of the GIGE-POE-APC units at that site.


On 8/17/2016 10:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Best to assume any surge suppressor that has been expose to 
significant surge activity to be walking wounded.

*From:* Nate Burke 
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:40 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story
Here are Pics of some other GIGE-POE-APC units from the site that took 
the strike.ï¿½ These both were in an APC chassis with other units that 
were not affected.ï¿½ (the unit next to the left unit did have some 
residual scorch marks, but is still working).ï¿½


The 48V power supply is still good, and the Airfiber is good. However, 
it did blow out the 48V DC-DC Converter (In place to fix voltage drop 
over the long cat5 run).ï¿½ The Unit on the left still had the Green 
LED on, but was not putting out any voltage on the Cat5.


Nate


On 8/11/2016 7:17 AM, Paul McCall wrote:


You slowing down in your old age Josh?

ï¿½

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2016 7:18 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

ï¿½

If you use Gmail you could simply star it or label it in 0.37 seconds...


ï¿½

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

ï¿½

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote:


Thanks Nate,
I really should archive these stories.ï¿½ I always say that every
time and I never do.ï¿½ Wish I had saved all the photos over the
years of this type of thing.

-Original Message- From: Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 4:51 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story



I had a decommissioned and powered off LMG OMNI on a pole that
also has
an EPMP mounted to it.ï¿½ Lightening took out the Omni, as in bits of
fiberglass were found around left over from the antenna.ï¿½ The EPMP
sector 5' down the pole didn't even reboot.ï¿½ The EPMP along
with all
Backhauls at the site are powered with GIGE-POE-APC units. I
didn't even
know there was a strike until the people there told me about
finding the
bits of antenna around.ï¿½ I'm guessing the suppressors saved the
rest of
the equipment.

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

2016-08-17 Thread Chuck McCown

Best to assume any surge suppressor that has been expose to significant surge 
activity to be walking wounded.  

From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

Here are Pics of some other GIGE-POE-APC units from the site that took the 
strike.ï¿½ These both were in an APC chassis with other units that were not 
affected.ï¿½ (the unit next to the left unit did have some residual scorch 
marks, but is still working).ï¿½ 

The 48V power supply is still good, and the Airfiber is good. However, it did 
blow out the 48V DC-DC Converter (In place to fix voltage drop over the long 
cat5 run).ï¿½ The Unit on the left still had the Green LED on, but was not 
putting out any voltage on the Cat5.

Nate

On 8/11/2016 7:17 AM, Paul McCall wrote:

  You slowing down in your old age Josh?

  ï¿½

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 7:18 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

  ï¿½

  If you use Gmail you could simply star it or label it in 0.37 seconds...

  ï¿½

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  ï¿½

  On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Thanks Nate,
I really should archive these stories.ï¿½ I always say that every time and 
I never do.ï¿½ Wish I had saved all the photos over the years of this type of 
thing.

-Original Message- From: Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 4:51 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

I had a decommissioned and powered off LMG OMNI on a pole that also has
an EPMP mounted to it.ï¿½ Lightening took out the Omni, as in bits of
fiberglass were found around left over from the antenna.ï¿½ The EPMP
sector 5' down the pole didn't even reboot.ï¿½ The EPMP along with all
Backhauls at the site are powered with GIGE-POE-APC units. I didn't even
know there was a strike until the people there told me about finding the
bits of antenna around.ï¿½ I'm guessing the suppressors saved the rest of
the equipment.

  ï¿½

[AFMUG] CNUT Update

2016-08-17 Thread Matt

Was updating some SM's to 14.2 and noticed this annoying habit of CNUT
to update an SM even if it was already at 14.2.  In the past it would
state update not required.  Is there a setting somewhere for this?
This is with CNUT 4.9.18.

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT PoE for Mimosa C5 / B5-Lite?

2016-08-17 Thread Christopher Gray

I'll follow up with Mimosa since the chart describes power combinations
specifically for the B5/B5c, but the critical note for me is this:

"Mimosa radios require 48 volts, but they accept an input range of 44 to 57
volts on a wide variety of pin combinations."

Thank you Faisal.

-Chris


--

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> I believe you will find your answer here ...
>
> http://client.help.mimosa.co/client-faq-voltage-input-specifications
>
>
> Very detailed info on what would work... :)
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Christopher Gray" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 16, 2016 10:58:20 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] UBNT PoE for Mimosa C5 / B5-Lite?
>
> What UBNT PoE works for Mimosa C5 and B5-Lite? [Possibly POE-48-24W or
> POE-48-24W-G?]
> Spec says: 48-56 V Power over Ethernet supply, but it doesn't mention the
> requirement at the radio.
>
> I'd like to use a power supply with built in grounding and surge
> suppression for a few installations, and it seems the UBNT power supplies
> are the most cost effective ways to achieve this.
>
> -Chris
>
>

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[AFMUG] CNUT Update

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