Re: [AFMUG] OT: at the lake

[Jason McKemie]

Lake Shelbyville is one of the better lakes around here, I'd guess the
camping is great as well. Need to take the boat down there soon. Enjoy the
weekend!

On Thursday, August 10, 2017, Steve Jones  wrote:

> So I'm at lake Shelbyville, I recommend this joint to anybody looking for
> something to do in Illinois.
> As I sit here by the fire with a glorious view of the moonlit lake, I
> wonder if there will ever be a point in my life, even if i leave the
> industry that I won't be thinking about how to get 99 percent territory
> coverage.
> Right now I'm thinking some sort of solar powered wind turbine backup bouy
> omni mesh solution with 900 mhz into each leg serving WiFi to an average 10
> campsites.
> Then I start thinking about batteries in the bouys and access for
> maintenance summer vs winter.
> About that point I start to think "listen here, motherfucker, you get 3 to
> 5 days a year you don't have to answer your phone, and this year you took
> 7. Sit back, drink beer, listen to country music from the 50s, pass out by
> the lake."
> Then I think to myself " does my phone have good enough service to relay
> this to the degenerates over at animal farm?"
> And Jesus delivers.
> Have a great week guys
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Public WifI protection

[Steve Jones]

This is healthcare man. Mention hipaa ant the purse strings open. Mention
it digitally, via email, and note that in the email. You'll be running l7
filters right away, drop a bmu with a procera box with a 10 percent markup

On Aug 9, 2017 12:30 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> If it's guest WiFi for people getting on Facebook/Instagram while sitting
> in the waiting room, I would definitely start with OpenDNS.  Check all of
> the things that need filtered out like porn, spyware, illegal stuff, etc.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
>> We provide bandwidth to our local hospital and they use our connection
>> for data sync offsite at night, but during the day it mostly serves their
>> “Guest Wifi”.
>>
>>
>>
>> They have had some abuse (file sharing) to the point where we have been
>> getting notices on it.   Looking for options. (simple).   Does a solution
>> like OpenDNS work in the case of file sharing or is there stuff IP based
>> (not using DNS)?
>>
>>
>>
>> Is OpenDNS the best one to use ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>
>> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] OT: at the lake

[Steve Jones]

So I'm at lake Shelbyville, I recommend this joint to anybody looking for
something to do in Illinois.
As I sit here by the fire with a glorious view of the moonlit lake, I
wonder if there will ever be a point in my life, even if i leave the
industry that I won't be thinking about how to get 99 percent territory
coverage.
Right now I'm thinking some sort of solar powered wind turbine backup bouy
omni mesh solution with 900 mhz into each leg serving WiFi to an average 10
campsites.
Then I start thinking about batteries in the bouys and access for
maintenance summer vs winter.
About that point I start to think "listen here, motherfucker, you get 3 to
5 days a year you don't have to answer your phone, and this year you took
7. Sit back, drink beer, listen to country music from the 50s, pass out by
the lake."
Then I think to myself " does my phone have good enough service to relay
this to the degenerates over at animal farm?"
And Jesus delivers.
Have a great week guys

Re: [AFMUG] towerdirect.net

[Jeremy]

I bought a flatbed worth of 25G sections for super cheap, and they are
perfect.  I highly recommend!

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Roger Timmerman  wrote:

> I've done about $45k worth of shelters with them and had no problems.
>
> Roger
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] <
> j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote:
>
>> YMMV but I have seen some very crooked Nello 25N sections.  Looked like
>> spaghetti.
>>
>> Jim Bouse
>> Owner
>> Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi
>> 979-985-5912
>> j...@brazoswifi.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 3:32 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] towerdirect.net
>>
>> Has anyone ever used towerdirect.net? I'm about to order some 25N rhon
>> pieces, but I want to make sure they're a legit company before handing over
>> the money.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Josh Reynolds]

Awesome! I'll have to look into that.

On Aug 9, 2017 7:40 PM, "Nathan Anderson"  wrote:

> Asterisk's res_phoneprov module can deal with this and I'm sure could
> easily be adapted to work with UniFi VoIP phones as well.  Polycoms work
> the same way: they request .cfg from the provisioning server.  In
> Asterisk, each extension is mapped to a particular MAC address, and when a
> Polycom phone asks for (e.g.) 0004f2abcdef.cfg from Asterisk's built-in
> HTTP server (a file doesn't actually exist anywhere on the filesystem),
> Asterisk knows which extension that phone should have and generates the
> configuration for it on-the-fly.
>
>
>
> -- Nathan
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:20 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones
>
>
>
> For what it's worth, UniFi provisioning doesn't happen via single config
> file. You will need to generate a config file with the Mac address as part
> of the file name. Search Google or UBNT.com for the article.
>
>
>
> I have some in my house. I use my edgerouter to provide the tftp source as
> my cloudkey, and my cloudkey has asterisk running on it.
>
>
>
> I could probably setup a system to generate a config on the fly by
> scraping info from the DHCP request and then generating a config file with
> the proper filename and inputting info from sip.conf for the user info if
> need be, I just haven't needed to.
>
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2017 7:08 PM, "Nathan Anderson"  wrote:
>
> I've put together an OpenWRT-based Asterisk VM (with Asterisk-GUI on top
> instead of FreePBX) that knows how to generate the provisioning files for
> Polycom phones from templates and offers them up via HTTP instead of TFTP.
> I can bang out a new PBX in an afternoon with it.  I still usually pair
> this with a MikroTik doing the DHCP server bit.
>
>
>
> If you have never done any VoIP before and perhaps need some hand-holding,
> I haven't personally used it, but 3CX, which is a commercial Windows
> product, seems to come highly recommended.  If you want something free,
> though, there is probably going to be a steeper learning curve.
>
>
>
> The other part you are going to have to consider is the hardware.  If you
> can get phone service handed off to you as pure SIP/IP, then great.  But if
> you actually need to take analog copper or TDM lines in from the phone
> company, then you are going to need to either get a PSTN <-> SIP device
> that meets your needs or purchase the necessary interface cards for the
> PC/server you are running the PBX software on.
>
>
>
> Good luck,
>
>
>
> -- Nathan
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 09, 2017 2:04 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones
>
>
>
> I've used a Mikrotik as the provisioning server in a lab setup.don't
> think I ever did it in real life.  It can set the required DHCP options and
> can be a TFTP server, and that's what you really need.
>
>
>
> I liked the Sipura/Linksys/Cisco SPA phones because you could configure
> via the web page then export the XML config. Then duplicate and edit as
> needed.  It was hard to beat that for simplicity.  I'm a few years out of
> touch on VoIP, so I have no idea what phones are out there these days.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Sent: 8/9/2017 4:27:36 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones
>
>
>
> PBX.
>
>
>
> Simple? VoIP is not simple. FreePBX is as simple as it gets, and it's only
> simple because it is limiting.
>
>
>
> For provisioning you will need a tftp server, the ability to set DHCP
> options, and a basic grasp of XML.
>
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2017 2:35 PM, "Timothy Steele"  wrote:
>
> Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?
>
>
>
> going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do not
> get Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a super simple
> BPX out there to connect with unifi phones would only have 2 weeks to get
> this all done soo looking for easy lol
>
>

[AFMUG] OT...cool shortwave stuff...

[Jaime Solorza]

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170801-the-ghostly-radio-station-that-no-one-claims-to-run
Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] OT RABID!!

[Jaime Solorza]

Back in 1989 I worked for CompuAdd. As I was getting ready to leave for
calls, this 6' 8" tall cowboy came into store, introduced himself to
manager as Attorney Sarah Purdy's husband and was there to pick up her hard
dick!!  No one laughed...he realized what he said , turned around and
leftcame back later that day.

Jaime Solorza

On Aug 9, 2017 7:17 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

> Yeah, Planet. I noticed that too. Derp. Many other grammar and spelling
> errors with Planet. Whatever, they're Taiwanese, it happens.
>
> Funny how Huawei made all the same mistakes in their CLI as Cisco. Oh
> wait, that's right, because they stole it. But meh, fuck Cisco.
>
> On 8/9/2017 7:38 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
>
>> I guess it didn't like my attachment, trying again.
>>
>> Discovered this on the command line of one of my new switches, lol!
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT RABID!!

[George Skorup]

Yeah, Planet. I noticed that too. Derp. Many other grammar and spelling 
errors with Planet. Whatever, they're Taiwanese, it happens.


Funny how Huawei made all the same mistakes in their CLI as Cisco. Oh 
wait, that's right, because they stole it. But meh, fuck Cisco.


On 8/9/2017 7:38 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

I guess it didn't like my attachment, trying again.

Discovered this on the command line of one of my new switches, lol!

Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Adair Winter]

I programmed phone systems for almost 6 years as a career. Touched lots of
different systems and I'd take the gui on freepbx any day over programming
from a phone.  It's probably the equivalent of cli vs gui to us networking
guys.

I do wish freepbx was better laid out and more modules were linked
together. But like anything, once you learn it, it's easy.

The thing I'm constantly amazed at is the same (and more really) features I
can get out of freepbx would cost someone $20-30k to have installed in the
telecom world (assuming 30-40 phones).  Freepbx cost us less than $5k.
(phones & freepbx licensing. We have about 30 phones). And I honestly feel
like I have more flexibility than any traditional tdm pbx.
Most other commercial voip products like, vertical wave, shoretel, zultys,
NEC, avaya, Cisco, etc are good and probably just as flexible as freepbx
but cost the same as traditional systems if not more.

I think it boils down to if you are willing to learn on your own or you
need someone to do it for you.

Adair



On Aug 9, 2017 7:46 PM, "Nathan Anderson"  wrote:

> Personally, I agree with you on FreePBX.  For a PBX GUI, what I want to
> see is something that someone other than the original installer can
> navigate and manipulate.  Asterisk-GUI is somewhat inflexible (no plug-ins,
> so if there isn't a way to do what you want in the GUI, you still have to
> dive into the .conf files) and is largely deprecated now by Digium anyway,
> but at least the functionality it does present is presented in a
> straightforward manner that (I think) makes sense.  I can get around
> FreePBX myself just fine, but it feels more like what I would expect a GUI
> for Asterisk to look like if someone just decided to wrap a web interface
> around the Asterisk text configuration files...the design of it feels lazy
> to me.  Instead of just being familiar with general PBXisms, a user has to
> actually know Asteriskisms to get around in FreePBX (or at least it did the
> last time I played with it, which admittedly was several years ago).
>
>
>
> -- Nathan
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 09, 2017 2:00 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones
>
>
>
> I don't care for FreePBX.  I think it makes certain hard tasks easy, but
> then makes tasks hard which were easy in vanilla Asterisk.
>
> The provisioning plugin is really nice as long as your phones are
> supported.
>
>
>
> Maybe the simplest thing would be one of those cloud based systems where
> they do everything for you.  You'll pay something recurring per phone, but
> all the hard parts are someone else's problem.  You'd have no problem being
> up in 2 days, let alone 2 weeks.
>
>
>
> Second simplest is configure the phones individually with their web page
> (or whatever --I haven't used unifi phones) and buy an appliance with some
> tech support included.  As an example, Adtran Total Access 904 can be a SIP
> server for your VoIP extensions, and supports SIP, analog, or T1/PRI for
> your incoming lines.  There are certainly Asterisk appliances as well.  I
> think you'll also find that most PBX vendors support VoIP now...they'd be
> stupid not to right?  You might pay for support, or maybe you'll get some
> post sale support for free, but either way somebody helps you with anything
> you're stuck on.
>
>
>
> Third simplest is PBX in a Flash or similar Asterisk+FreePBX
> distribution.  You'll have the least capital invested, and the most labor.
>
>
>
> Least simple: Vanilla Asterisk isn't so hard once you get some practice
> with it and as long as you have time to learn and experiment.
>
>
>
> My 2c
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Sent: 8/9/2017 4:27:36 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones
>
>
>
> PBX.
>
>
>
> Simple? VoIP is not simple. FreePBX is as simple as it gets, and it's only
> simple because it is limiting.
>
>
>
> For provisioning you will need a tftp server, the ability to set DHCP
> options, and a basic grasp of XML.
>
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2017 2:35 PM, "Timothy Steele"  wrote:
>
> Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?
>
>
>
> going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do not
> get Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a super simple
> BPX out there to connect with unifi phones would only have 2 weeks to get
> this all done soo looking for easy lol
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Nathan Anderson]

Personally, I agree with you on FreePBX.  For a PBX GUI, what I want to see is 
something that someone other than the original installer can navigate and 
manipulate.  Asterisk-GUI is somewhat inflexible (no plug-ins, so if there 
isn't a way to do what you want in the GUI, you still have to dive into the 
.conf files) and is largely deprecated now by Digium anyway, but at least the 
functionality it does present is presented in a straightforward manner that (I 
think) makes sense.  I can get around FreePBX myself just fine, but it feels 
more like what I would expect a GUI for Asterisk to look like if someone just 
decided to wrap a web interface around the Asterisk text configuration 
files...the design of it feels lazy to me.  Instead of just being familiar with 
general PBXisms, a user has to actually know Asteriskisms to get around in 
FreePBX (or at least it did the last time I played with it, which admittedly 
was several years ago).

-- Nathan

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 2:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

I don't care for FreePBX.  I think it makes certain hard tasks easy, but then 
makes tasks hard which were easy in vanilla Asterisk.
The provisioning plugin is really nice as long as your phones are supported.

Maybe the simplest thing would be one of those cloud based systems where they 
do everything for you.  You'll pay something recurring per phone, but all the 
hard parts are someone else's problem.  You'd have no problem being up in 2 
days, let alone 2 weeks.

Second simplest is configure the phones individually with their web page (or 
whatever --I haven't used unifi phones) and buy an appliance with some tech 
support included.  As an example, Adtran Total Access 904 can be a SIP server 
for your VoIP extensions, and supports SIP, analog, or T1/PRI for your incoming 
lines.  There are certainly Asterisk appliances as well.  I think you'll also 
find that most PBX vendors support VoIP now...they'd be stupid not to right?  
You might pay for support, or maybe you'll get some post sale support for free, 
but either way somebody helps you with anything you're stuck on.

Third simplest is PBX in a Flash or similar Asterisk+FreePBX distribution.  
You'll have the least capital invested, and the most labor.

Least simple: Vanilla Asterisk isn't so hard once you get some practice with it 
and as long as you have time to learn and experiment.

My 2c

-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Reynolds" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/9/2017 4:27:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

PBX.

Simple? VoIP is not simple. FreePBX is as simple as it gets, and it's only 
simple because it is limiting.

For provisioning you will need a tftp server, the ability to set DHCP options, 
and a basic grasp of XML.

On Aug 9, 2017 2:35 PM, "Timothy Steele" 
> wrote:
Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?

going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do not get 
Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a super simple BPX out 
there to connect with unifi phones would only have 2 weeks to get this all done 
soo looking for easy lol

Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Nathan Anderson]

I meant to write (a file THAT doesn't actually exist anywhere on the 
filesystem) in the parenthetical.

-- Nathan

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

Asterisk's res_phoneprov module can deal with this and I'm sure could easily be 
adapted to work with UniFi VoIP phones as well.  Polycoms work the same way: 
they request .cfg from the provisioning server.  In Asterisk, each 
extension is mapped to a particular MAC address, and when a Polycom phone asks 
for (e.g.) 0004f2abcdef.cfg from Asterisk's built-in HTTP server (a file 
doesn't actually exist anywhere on the filesystem), Asterisk knows which 
extension that phone should have and generates the configuration for it 
on-the-fly.

-- Nathan

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

For what it's worth, UniFi provisioning doesn't happen via single config file. 
You will need to generate a config file with the Mac address as part of the 
file name. Search Google or UBNT.com for the article.

I have some in my house. I use my edgerouter to provide the tftp source as my 
cloudkey, and my cloudkey has asterisk running on it.

I could probably setup a system to generate a config on the fly by scraping 
info from the DHCP request and then generating a config file with the proper 
filename and inputting info from sip.conf for the user info if need be, I just 
haven't needed to.

On Aug 9, 2017 7:08 PM, "Nathan Anderson" 
> wrote:
I've put together an OpenWRT-based Asterisk VM (with Asterisk-GUI on top 
instead of FreePBX) that knows how to generate the provisioning files for 
Polycom phones from templates and offers them up via HTTP instead of TFTP.  I 
can bang out a new PBX in an afternoon with it.  I still usually pair this with 
a MikroTik doing the DHCP server bit.

If you have never done any VoIP before and perhaps need some hand-holding, I 
haven't personally used it, but 3CX, which is a commercial Windows product, 
seems to come highly recommended.  If you want something free, though, there is 
probably going to be a steeper learning curve.

The other part you are going to have to consider is the hardware.  If you can 
get phone service handed off to you as pure SIP/IP, then great.  But if you 
actually need to take analog copper or TDM lines in from the phone company, 
then you are going to need to either get a PSTN <-> SIP device that meets your 
needs or purchase the necessary interface cards for the PC/server you are 
running the PBX software on.

Good luck,

-- Nathan

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 2:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

I've used a Mikrotik as the provisioning server in a lab setup.don't think 
I ever did it in real life.  It can set the required DHCP options and can be a 
TFTP server, and that's what you really need.

I liked the Sipura/Linksys/Cisco SPA phones because you could configure via the 
web page then export the XML config. Then duplicate and edit as needed.  It was 
hard to beat that for simplicity.  I'm a few years out of touch on VoIP, so I 
have no idea what phones are out there these days.


-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Reynolds" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/9/2017 4:27:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

PBX.

Simple? VoIP is not simple. FreePBX is as simple as it gets, and it's only 
simple because it is limiting.

For provisioning you will need a tftp server, the ability to set DHCP options, 
and a basic grasp of XML.

On Aug 9, 2017 2:35 PM, "Timothy Steele" 
> wrote:
Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?

going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do not get 
Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a super simple BPX out 
there to connect with unifi phones would only have 2 weeks to get this all done 
soo looking for easy lol

Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Nathan Anderson]

Asterisk's res_phoneprov module can deal with this and I'm sure could easily be 
adapted to work with UniFi VoIP phones as well.  Polycoms work the same way: 
they request .cfg from the provisioning server.  In Asterisk, each 
extension is mapped to a particular MAC address, and when a Polycom phone asks 
for (e.g.) 0004f2abcdef.cfg from Asterisk's built-in HTTP server (a file 
doesn't actually exist anywhere on the filesystem), Asterisk knows which 
extension that phone should have and generates the configuration for it 
on-the-fly.

-- Nathan

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

For what it's worth, UniFi provisioning doesn't happen via single config file. 
You will need to generate a config file with the Mac address as part of the 
file name. Search Google or UBNT.com for the article.

I have some in my house. I use my edgerouter to provide the tftp source as my 
cloudkey, and my cloudkey has asterisk running on it.

I could probably setup a system to generate a config on the fly by scraping 
info from the DHCP request and then generating a config file with the proper 
filename and inputting info from sip.conf for the user info if need be, I just 
haven't needed to.

On Aug 9, 2017 7:08 PM, "Nathan Anderson" 
> wrote:
I've put together an OpenWRT-based Asterisk VM (with Asterisk-GUI on top 
instead of FreePBX) that knows how to generate the provisioning files for 
Polycom phones from templates and offers them up via HTTP instead of TFTP.  I 
can bang out a new PBX in an afternoon with it.  I still usually pair this with 
a MikroTik doing the DHCP server bit.

If you have never done any VoIP before and perhaps need some hand-holding, I 
haven't personally used it, but 3CX, which is a commercial Windows product, 
seems to come highly recommended.  If you want something free, though, there is 
probably going to be a steeper learning curve.

The other part you are going to have to consider is the hardware.  If you can 
get phone service handed off to you as pure SIP/IP, then great.  But if you 
actually need to take analog copper or TDM lines in from the phone company, 
then you are going to need to either get a PSTN <-> SIP device that meets your 
needs or purchase the necessary interface cards for the PC/server you are 
running the PBX software on.

Good luck,

-- Nathan

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 2:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

I've used a Mikrotik as the provisioning server in a lab setup.don't think 
I ever did it in real life.  It can set the required DHCP options and can be a 
TFTP server, and that's what you really need.

I liked the Sipura/Linksys/Cisco SPA phones because you could configure via the 
web page then export the XML config. Then duplicate and edit as needed.  It was 
hard to beat that for simplicity.  I'm a few years out of touch on VoIP, so I 
have no idea what phones are out there these days.


-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Reynolds" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/9/2017 4:27:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

PBX.

Simple? VoIP is not simple. FreePBX is as simple as it gets, and it's only 
simple because it is limiting.

For provisioning you will need a tftp server, the ability to set DHCP options, 
and a basic grasp of XML.

On Aug 9, 2017 2:35 PM, "Timothy Steele" 
> wrote:
Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?

going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do not get 
Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a super simple BPX out 
there to connect with unifi phones would only have 2 weeks to get this all done 
soo looking for easy lol

[AFMUG] OT RABID!!

[Sterling Jacobson]

I guess it didn't like my attachment, trying again.

Discovered this on the command line of one of my new switches, lol!

[AFMUG] OT RABID!!

[Sterling Jacobson]

Discovered this on the command line of one of my new switches, lol!

[cid:image001.png@01D2F01C.AC63AE10]

Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Josh Reynolds]

For clarification, this is for UniFi VoIP.

On Aug 9, 2017 7:20 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> For what it's worth, UniFi provisioning doesn't happen via single config
> file. You will need to generate a config file with the Mac address as part
> of the file name. Search Google or UBNT.com for the article.
>
> I have some in my house. I use my edgerouter to provide the tftp source as
> my cloudkey, and my cloudkey has asterisk running on it.
>
> I could probably setup a system to generate a config on the fly by
> scraping info from the DHCP request and then generating a config file with
> the proper filename and inputting info from sip.conf for the user info if
> need be, I just haven't needed to.
>
> On Aug 9, 2017 7:08 PM, "Nathan Anderson"  wrote:
>
>> I've put together an OpenWRT-based Asterisk VM (with Asterisk-GUI on top
>> instead of FreePBX) that knows how to generate the provisioning files for
>> Polycom phones from templates and offers them up via HTTP instead of TFTP.
>> I can bang out a new PBX in an afternoon with it.  I still usually pair
>> this with a MikroTik doing the DHCP server bit.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have never done any VoIP before and perhaps need some
>> hand-holding, I haven't personally used it, but 3CX, which is a commercial
>> Windows product, seems to come highly recommended.  If you want something
>> free, though, there is probably going to be a steeper learning curve.
>>
>>
>>
>> The other part you are going to have to consider is the hardware.  If you
>> can get phone service handed off to you as pure SIP/IP, then great.  But if
>> you actually need to take analog copper or TDM lines in from the phone
>> company, then you are going to need to either get a PSTN <-> SIP device
>> that meets your needs or purchase the necessary interface cards for the
>> PC/server you are running the PBX software on.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Nathan
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 09, 2017 2:04 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones
>>
>>
>>
>> I've used a Mikrotik as the provisioning server in a lab setup.don't
>> think I ever did it in real life.  It can set the required DHCP options and
>> can be a TFTP server, and that's what you really need.
>>
>>
>>
>> I liked the Sipura/Linksys/Cisco SPA phones because you could configure
>> via the web page then export the XML config. Then duplicate and edit as
>> needed.  It was hard to beat that for simplicity.  I'm a few years out of
>> touch on VoIP, so I have no idea what phones are out there these days.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>>
>> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
>>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>>
>> Sent: 8/9/2017 4:27:36 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones
>>
>>
>>
>> PBX.
>>
>>
>>
>> Simple? VoIP is not simple. FreePBX is as simple as it gets, and it's
>> only simple because it is limiting.
>>
>>
>>
>> For provisioning you will need a tftp server, the ability to set DHCP
>> options, and a basic grasp of XML.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 9, 2017 2:35 PM, "Timothy Steele" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?
>>
>>
>>
>> going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do
>> not get Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a super
>> simple BPX out there to connect with unifi phones would only have 2 weeks
>> to get this all done soo looking for easy lol
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Josh Reynolds]

For what it's worth, UniFi provisioning doesn't happen via single config
file. You will need to generate a config file with the Mac address as part
of the file name. Search Google or UBNT.com for the article.

I have some in my house. I use my edgerouter to provide the tftp source as
my cloudkey, and my cloudkey has asterisk running on it.

I could probably setup a system to generate a config on the fly by scraping
info from the DHCP request and then generating a config file with the
proper filename and inputting info from sip.conf for the user info if need
be, I just haven't needed to.

On Aug 9, 2017 7:08 PM, "Nathan Anderson"  wrote:

> I've put together an OpenWRT-based Asterisk VM (with Asterisk-GUI on top
> instead of FreePBX) that knows how to generate the provisioning files for
> Polycom phones from templates and offers them up via HTTP instead of TFTP.
> I can bang out a new PBX in an afternoon with it.  I still usually pair
> this with a MikroTik doing the DHCP server bit.
>
>
>
> If you have never done any VoIP before and perhaps need some hand-holding,
> I haven't personally used it, but 3CX, which is a commercial Windows
> product, seems to come highly recommended.  If you want something free,
> though, there is probably going to be a steeper learning curve.
>
>
>
> The other part you are going to have to consider is the hardware.  If you
> can get phone service handed off to you as pure SIP/IP, then great.  But if
> you actually need to take analog copper or TDM lines in from the phone
> company, then you are going to need to either get a PSTN <-> SIP device
> that meets your needs or purchase the necessary interface cards for the
> PC/server you are running the PBX software on.
>
>
>
> Good luck,
>
>
>
> -- Nathan
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 09, 2017 2:04 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones
>
>
>
> I've used a Mikrotik as the provisioning server in a lab setup.don't
> think I ever did it in real life.  It can set the required DHCP options and
> can be a TFTP server, and that's what you really need.
>
>
>
> I liked the Sipura/Linksys/Cisco SPA phones because you could configure
> via the web page then export the XML config. Then duplicate and edit as
> needed.  It was hard to beat that for simplicity.  I'm a few years out of
> touch on VoIP, so I have no idea what phones are out there these days.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Sent: 8/9/2017 4:27:36 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones
>
>
>
> PBX.
>
>
>
> Simple? VoIP is not simple. FreePBX is as simple as it gets, and it's only
> simple because it is limiting.
>
>
>
> For provisioning you will need a tftp server, the ability to set DHCP
> options, and a basic grasp of XML.
>
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2017 2:35 PM, "Timothy Steele"  wrote:
>
> Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?
>
>
>
> going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do not
> get Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a super simple
> BPX out there to connect with unifi phones would only have 2 weeks to get
> this all done soo looking for easy lol
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Nathan Anderson]

I've put together an OpenWRT-based Asterisk VM (with Asterisk-GUI on top 
instead of FreePBX) that knows how to generate the provisioning files for 
Polycom phones from templates and offers them up via HTTP instead of TFTP.  I 
can bang out a new PBX in an afternoon with it.  I still usually pair this with 
a MikroTik doing the DHCP server bit.

If you have never done any VoIP before and perhaps need some hand-holding, I 
haven't personally used it, but 3CX, which is a commercial Windows product, 
seems to come highly recommended.  If you want something free, though, there is 
probably going to be a steeper learning curve.

The other part you are going to have to consider is the hardware.  If you can 
get phone service handed off to you as pure SIP/IP, then great.  But if you 
actually need to take analog copper or TDM lines in from the phone company, 
then you are going to need to either get a PSTN <-> SIP device that meets your 
needs or purchase the necessary interface cards for the PC/server you are 
running the PBX software on.

Good luck,

-- Nathan

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 2:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

I've used a Mikrotik as the provisioning server in a lab setup.don't think 
I ever did it in real life.  It can set the required DHCP options and can be a 
TFTP server, and that's what you really need.

I liked the Sipura/Linksys/Cisco SPA phones because you could configure via the 
web page then export the XML config. Then duplicate and edit as needed.  It was 
hard to beat that for simplicity.  I'm a few years out of touch on VoIP, so I 
have no idea what phones are out there these days.


-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Reynolds" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/9/2017 4:27:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

PBX.

Simple? VoIP is not simple. FreePBX is as simple as it gets, and it's only 
simple because it is limiting.

For provisioning you will need a tftp server, the ability to set DHCP options, 
and a basic grasp of XML.

On Aug 9, 2017 2:35 PM, "Timothy Steele" 
> wrote:
Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?

going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do not get 
Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a super simple BPX out 
there to connect with unifi phones would only have 2 weeks to get this all done 
soo looking for easy lol

Re: [AFMUG] towerdirect.net

[Roger Timmerman]

I've done about $45k worth of shelters with them and had no problems.

Roger

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
wrote:

> YMMV but I have seen some very crooked Nello 25N sections.  Looked like
> spaghetti.
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner
> Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> j...@brazoswifi.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 3:32 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] towerdirect.net
>
> Has anyone ever used towerdirect.net? I'm about to order some 25N rhon
> pieces, but I want to make sure they're a legit company before handing over
> the money.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>

Re: [AFMUG] towerdirect.net

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

YMMV but I have seen some very crooked Nello 25N sections.  Looked like 
spaghetti.

Jim Bouse
Owner
Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
j...@brazoswifi.com 

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 3:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] towerdirect.net

Has anyone ever used towerdirect.net? I'm about to order some 25N rhon pieces, 
but I want to make sure they're a legit company before handing over the money. 

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Adam Moffett]

I've used a Mikrotik as the provisioning server in a lab setup.don't 
think I ever did it in real life.  It can set the required DHCP options 
and can be a TFTP server, and that's what you really need.


I liked the Sipura/Linksys/Cisco SPA phones because you could configure 
via the web page then export the XML config. Then duplicate and edit as 
needed.  It was hard to beat that for simplicity.  I'm a few years out 
of touch on VoIP, so I have no idea what phones are out there these 
days.



-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Reynolds" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/9/2017 4:27:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones


PBX.

Simple? VoIP is not simple. FreePBX is as simple as it gets, and it's 
only simple because it is limiting.


For provisioning you will need a tftp server, the ability to set DHCP 
options, and a basic grasp of XML.


On Aug 9, 2017 2:35 PM, "Timothy Steele"  
wrote:

Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?

going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do 
not get Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a 
super simple BPX out there to connect with unifi phones would only 
have 2 weeks to get this all done soo looking for easy lol

Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Adam Moffett]

I don't care for FreePBX.  I think it makes certain hard tasks easy, but 
then makes tasks hard which were easy in vanilla Asterisk.
The provisioning plugin is really nice as long as your phones are 
supported.


Maybe the simplest thing would be one of those cloud based systems where 
they do everything for you.  You'll pay something recurring per phone, 
but all the hard parts are someone else's problem.  You'd have no 
problem being up in 2 days, let alone 2 weeks.


Second simplest is configure the phones individually with their web page 
(or whatever --I haven't used unifi phones) and buy an appliance with 
some tech support included.  As an example, Adtran Total Access 904 can 
be a SIP server for your VoIP extensions, and supports SIP, analog, or 
T1/PRI for your incoming lines.  There are certainly Asterisk appliances 
as well.  I think you'll also find that most PBX vendors support VoIP 
now...they'd be stupid not to right?  You might pay for support, or 
maybe you'll get some post sale support for free, but either way 
somebody helps you with anything you're stuck on.


Third simplest is PBX in a Flash or similar Asterisk+FreePBX 
distribution.  You'll have the least capital invested, and the most 
labor.


Least simple: Vanilla Asterisk isn't so hard once you get some practice 
with it and as long as you have time to learn and experiment.


My 2c

-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Reynolds" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/9/2017 4:27:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones


PBX.

Simple? VoIP is not simple. FreePBX is as simple as it gets, and it's 
only simple because it is limiting.


For provisioning you will need a tftp server, the ability to set DHCP 
options, and a basic grasp of XML.


On Aug 9, 2017 2:35 PM, "Timothy Steele"  
wrote:

Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?

going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do 
not get Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a 
super simple BPX out there to connect with unifi phones would only 
have 2 weeks to get this all done soo looking for easy lol

Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Adair Winter]

The end point manager for freepbx is awesome

On Aug 9, 2017 3:33 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> There's a provisioning plugin for FreePBX, at least there was.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 9, 2017 3:27:36 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones
>
> PBX.
>
> Simple? VoIP is not simple. FreePBX is as simple as it gets, and it's only
> simple because it is limiting.
>
> For provisioning you will need a tftp server, the ability to set DHCP
> options, and a basic grasp of XML.
>
> On Aug 9, 2017 2:35 PM, "Timothy Steele"  wrote:
>
>> Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?
>>
>> going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do
>> not get Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a super
>> simple BPX out there to connect with unifi phones would only have 2 weeks
>> to get this all done soo looking for easy lol
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Mike Hammett]

There's a provisioning plugin for FreePBX, at least there was. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Reynolds"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 3:27:36 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones 


PBX. 


Simple? VoIP is not simple. FreePBX is as simple as it gets, and it's only 
simple because it is limiting. 


For provisioning you will need a tftp server, the ability to set DHCP options, 
and a basic grasp of XML. 


On Aug 9, 2017 2:35 PM, "Timothy Steele" < timothy.pct...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Anyone Working With Unifi Phones? 


going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do not get 
Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a super simple BPX out 
there to connect with unifi phones would only have 2 weeks to get this all done 
soo looking for easy lol 

[AFMUG] towerdirect.net

[Brett A Mansfield]

Has anyone ever used towerdirect.net? I'm about to order some 25N rhon pieces, 
but I want to make sure they're a legit company before handing over the money. 

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Josh Reynolds]

PBX.

Simple? VoIP is not simple. FreePBX is as simple as it gets, and it's only
simple because it is limiting.

For provisioning you will need a tftp server, the ability to set DHCP
options, and a basic grasp of XML.

On Aug 9, 2017 2:35 PM, "Timothy Steele"  wrote:

> Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?
>
> going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do not
> get Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a super simple
> BPX out there to connect with unifi phones would only have 2 weeks to get
> this all done soo looking for easy lol
>

Re: [AFMUG] Micro GPON OLT

[Chuck Hogg]

I haven't received a response yet.

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> That's pretty nice looking.  What's the price tag on something like that?
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Chuck Hogg" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Sent: 8/9/2017 12:00:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Micro GPON OLT
>
> http://www.opencon.com/pdf/datasheet/OCS-MOLT-DataSheet.pdf
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Carl Peterson  > wrote:
>
>> Ah, sorry about the confusion.  That would seem like a lot of magic to
>> fit into an SFP form factor.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Gino A. Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> These are ONTs on a SFP, not OLTs
>>>
>>> From: Af  on behalf of Carl Peterson <
>>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Date: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:30 AM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Micro GPON OLT
>>>
>>> Gino,  Thats exactly what I'm talking about.  Pretty sure these ones are
>>> the same hardware as the Calix ones but calix has their own ONT image on
>>> theirs.  They have an ONT built into the SFP and I haven't had any issue
>>> getting them to "work" in any old switch.  You just plug them into the
>>> switch and then you can connect to them through the switch to set up the
>>> ONT.  Info on the Zisa ones:  http://zisacom.com/c/default/
>>> pageId/5541dd482034da9f368b45ce/articleId/5541dd482034da9f368b4584
>>>
>>> Info on the Calix one is attached.  It is meant to work with their
>>> hardware, but I suspect that if you can make it work with their hardware
>>> you could also make it work with a regular switch etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Gino A. Villarini 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Carl, what I meant was Gpon SFPs that have the OLT system integrated in
 the SFP and you can plug them into any ethernet SFP cage, not the standard
 Gpon SFPs that you need to install in vendors OLT base unit.

 From: Af  on behalf of Carl Peterson <
 cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
 Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
 Date: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:00 AM
 To: "af@afmug.com" 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Micro GPON OLT

 There are GPON SFPs.  I have a few of them in my lab.  Calix has one
 that they use in another piece of equipment but you need their ONT image on
 the E7 to get it to work with their gear.  They will sell you just the SFP,
 but its kind of spendy.  I have a few that I'll test out with UBNT when I
 have time to rack up their gear in my lab but it hasn't been my top
 priority as we love the Gigacenters and UBNT doesn't have anything like
 them yet.



 *Gino A. Villarini*
 President
 Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

 On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Jason McKemie <
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> I've seen low-count GPON OLTs, I just can't seem to find an industrial
> rated model - besides something like the Calix e3-2.
>
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> From the looks of Google, a bunch of Chinese companies.
>>
>> I know calix makes a 4 port line card, but you still have chassis,
>> power supplies, licensing, optics, etc.
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2017 6:09 PM, "Jason McKemie" <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Any idea who makes them?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>>>
 I think there are some 4 port.

 On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 6:45 PM Jason McKemie <
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Would be nice if someone made a single port, DIN-mount OLT with an
> industrial temperature rating. Alternately, an outdoor single port 
> unit
> would be nice. Does anything like this exist? I've got a quote coming 
> for
> Calix's outdoor GPON OLT, but I know that number is going to be up 
> there.

 --
 Regards,
 Chuck

>>>


 --

 Carl Peterson

 *PORT NETWORKS*

 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

 Baltimore, MD 21202

 (410) 637-3707

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Carl Peterson
>>>
>>> *PORT NETWORKS*
>>>
>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>>>
>>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>>>
>>> (410) 637-3707
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Carl Peterson
>>
>> *PORT NETWORKS*
>>
>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>>
>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>>
>> (410) 637-3707
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Timothy Steele]

Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?

going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do not
get Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a super simple
BPX out there to connect with unifi phones would only have 2 weeks to get
this all done soo looking for easy lol

Re: [AFMUG] Public WifI protection

[Josh Luthman]

If it's guest WiFi for people getting on Facebook/Instagram while sitting
in the waiting room, I would definitely start with OpenDNS.  Check all of
the things that need filtered out like porn, spyware, illegal stuff, etc.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> We provide bandwidth to our local hospital and they use our connection for
> data sync offsite at night, but during the day it mostly serves their
> “Guest Wifi”.
>
>
>
> They have had some abuse (file sharing) to the point where we have been
> getting notices on it.   Looking for options. (simple).   Does a solution
> like OpenDNS work in the case of file sharing or is there stuff IP based
> (not using DNS)?
>
>
>
> Is OpenDNS the best one to use ?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Micro GPON OLT

[Adam Moffett]

That's pretty nice looking.  What's the price tag on something like 
that?



-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck Hogg" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 8/9/2017 12:00:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Micro GPON OLT


http://www.opencon.com/pdf/datasheet/OCS-MOLT-DataSheet.pdf

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Carl Peterson 
 wrote:
Ah, sorry about the confusion.  That would seem like a lot of magic to 
fit into an SFP form factor.


On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Gino A. Villarini  
wrote:

These are ONTs on a SFP, not OLTs

From: Af  on behalf of Carl Peterson 


Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:30 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Micro GPON OLT

Gino,  Thats exactly what I'm talking about.  Pretty sure these ones 
are the same hardware as the Calix ones but calix has their own ONT 
image on theirs.  They have an ONT built into the SFP and I haven't 
had any issue getting them to "work" in any old switch.  You just 
plug them into the switch and then you can connect to them through 
the switch to set up the ONT.  Info on the Zisa ones:  
http://zisacom.com/c/default/pageId/5541dd482034da9f368b45ce/articleId/5541dd482034da9f368b4584 



Info on the Calix one is attached.  It is meant to work with their 
hardware, but I suspect that if you can make it work with their 
hardware you could also make it work with a regular switch etc.









Gino A. Villarini

PresidentMetro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Gino A. Villarini 
 wrote:
Carl, what I meant was Gpon SFPs that have the OLT system integrated 
in the SFP and you can plug them into any ethernet SFP cage, not the 
standard Gpon SFPs that you need to install in vendors OLT base 
unit.


From: Af  on behalf of Carl Peterson 


Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:00 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Micro GPON OLT

There are GPON SFPs.  I have a few of them in my lab.  Calix has one 
that they use in another piece of equipment but you need their ONT 
image on the E7 to get it to work with their gear.  They will sell 
you just the SFP, but its kind of spendy.  I have a few that I'll 
test out with UBNT when I have time to rack up their gear in my lab 
but it hasn't been my top priority as we love the Gigacenters and 
UBNT doesn't have anything like them yet.





Gino A. Villarini

PresidentMetro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Jason McKemie 
> wrote:
I've seen low-count GPON OLTs, I just can't seem to find an 
industrial rated model - besides something like the Calix e3-2.


On Tuesday, August 8, 2017, Josh Reynolds  
wrote:

From the looks of Google, a bunch of Chinese companies.

I know calix makes a 4 port line card, but you still have chassis, 
power supplies, licensing, optics, etc.


On Aug 8, 2017 6:09 PM, "Jason McKemie" 
 wrote:

Any idea who makes them?

On Tuesday, August 8, 2017, Chuck Hogg  
wrote:

I think there are some 4 port.

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 6:45 PM Jason McKemie 
 wrote:
Would be nice if someone made a single port, DIN-mount OLT with 
an industrial temperature rating. Alternately, an outdoor 
single port unit would be nice. Does anything like this exist? 
I've got a quote coming for Calix's outdoor GPON OLT, but I 
know that number is going to be up there.

--
Regards,
Chuck




--
Carl Peterson

PORT NETWORKS

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707 





--
Carl Peterson

PORT NETWORKS

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707 





--
Carl Peterson

PORT NETWORKS

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707 

Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

[Chris Wright]

If I had to guess, it’s because your situation is simply a confirmation that 
people are getting their hands on licensed radios before the actual licenses. 
And we all knew Mimosa/UBNT would be the catalyst.

 

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

 

Mimosa b11, why

 

On Aug 8, 2017 10:18 PM, "Trey Scarborough"  wrote:

Please tell me this is not a AF11 or mimosa

On 8/8/2017 1:33 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Ya sorry didn't see your later email.  Thanks for the details!




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Hardy, Tim  wrote:

30 days is specified in 101.103, but as mentioned – most PCNs today are 
expedited to 10-business days.  If it’s a dire emergency – life and limb, 
public safety or restoration of service, the FCC allows STAs (Special Temporary 
Authority).  These can be granted immediately by email but must be followed up 
with formal applications and fees.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

 

Can't you do a rush file or something like that?  7 or 14 days?

Is 30 days really not enough for you?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Hardy, Tim  wrote:

There is no authority to operate until the applications have been filed – 
period.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

 

Has the PCN passed with no objections? What does your coordinator say?



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 





  _  


From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:46:37 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

Im pretty sure the answer is an absolute no, and I know I CAN do it without 
likely being caught.

 

If we have the gear on hand and are just waiting on the FCC, I know we can 
physically install the radios, its just storage at height at that point, but 
can we turn it on long enough to do fine alignment?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AFMUG] Public WifI protection

[Paul McCall]

We provide bandwidth to our local hospital and they use our connection for data 
sync offsite at night, but during the day it mostly serves their "Guest Wifi".

They have had some abuse (file sharing) to the point where we have been getting 
notices on it.   Looking for options. (simple).   Does a solution like OpenDNS 
work in the case of file sharing or is there stuff IP based (not using DNS)?

Is OpenDNS the best one to use ?

Paul

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Micro GPON OLT

[Gino A. Villarini]

Carl, what I meant was Gpon SFPs that have the OLT system integrated in the SFP 
and you can plug them into any ethernet SFP cage, not the standard Gpon SFPs 
that you need to install in vendors OLT base unit.

From: Af > on behalf of Carl 
Peterson >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:00 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Micro GPON OLT

There are GPON SFPs.  I have a few of them in my lab.  Calix has one that they 
use in another piece of equipment but you need their ONT image on the E7 to get 
it to work with their gear.  They will sell you just the SFP, but its kind of 
spendy.  I have a few that I'll test out with UBNT when I have time to rack up 
their gear in my lab but it hasn't been my top priority as we love the 
Gigacenters and UBNT doesn't have anything like them yet.




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Jason McKemie 
> 
wrote:
I've seen low-count GPON OLTs, I just can't seem to find an industrial rated 
model - besides something like the Calix e3-2.

On Tuesday, August 8, 2017, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>From the looks of Google, a bunch of Chinese companies.

I know calix makes a 4 port line card, but you still have chassis, power 
supplies, licensing, optics, etc.

On Aug 8, 2017 6:09 PM, "Jason McKemie"  
wrote:
Any idea who makes them?

On Tuesday, August 8, 2017, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
I think there are some 4 port.

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 6:45 PM Jason McKemie  
wrote:
Would be nice if someone made a single port, DIN-mount OLT with an industrial 
temperature rating. Alternately, an outdoor single port unit would be nice. 
Does anything like this exist? I've got a quote coming for Calix's outdoor GPON 
OLT, but I know that number is going to be up there.
--
Regards,
Chuck



--

Carl Peterson

PORT NETWORKS

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] Micro GPON OLT

[Carl Peterson]

There are GPON SFPs.  I have a few of them in my lab.  Calix has one that
they use in another piece of equipment but you need their ONT image on the
E7 to get it to work with their gear.  They will sell you just the SFP, but
its kind of spendy.  I have a few that I'll test out with UBNT when I have
time to rack up their gear in my lab but it hasn't been my top priority as
we love the Gigacenters and UBNT doesn't have anything like them yet.

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> I've seen low-count GPON OLTs, I just can't seem to find an industrial
> rated model - besides something like the Calix e3-2.
>
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
>> From the looks of Google, a bunch of Chinese companies.
>>
>> I know calix makes a 4 port line card, but you still have chassis, power
>> supplies, licensing, optics, etc.
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2017 6:09 PM, "Jason McKemie" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Any idea who makes them?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>>>
 I think there are some 4 port.

 On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 6:45 PM Jason McKemie <
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Would be nice if someone made a single port, DIN-mount OLT with an
> industrial temperature rating. Alternately, an outdoor single port unit
> would be nice. Does anything like this exist? I've got a quote coming for
> Calix's outdoor GPON OLT, but I know that number is going to be up there.

 --
 Regards,
 Chuck

>>>


-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707