Re: [AFMUG] Fiber patch cables retail in central il?

2018-03-03 Thread George Skorup
If you have aqua OM3 or OM4 MMF patch cables, use them. You'll have no problems at a couple hundred feet with 10 or 20km optics. Hell, even OM1 or OM2 cables would probably work fine. Never tried it though. I put some 20k FS SFPs in new switches in the office and of course didn't have any

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber patch cables retail in central il?

2018-03-03 Thread Steve Jones
Lc lc single mode. Fs.com had an issue at the beginning of the week accepting cc payment. My contractor was going to bring spares. May just have him splice the factory ends he cut off the fiber. Was hoping some joint in bloominton carried them. This fiver to the radio thing is new to us. I only

Re: [AFMUG] 39ghz

2018-03-03 Thread Rory Conaway
Many of those countries don’t give a crap who runs what. You may need a license but for the most part, nobody is there to enforce it. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2018 8:41 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 39ghz Friend

Re: [AFMUG] 39ghz

2018-03-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
Friend of mine bought 10 Brand New Stratex 38GHz for $1500.00 in an auction and sold them someone in Brazil. Not sure if 39GHz is a popular band there. Might look at surplus resellers. Jaime Solorza On Mar 3, 2018 7:02 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > Yeah,

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber patch cables retail in central il?

2018-03-03 Thread Justin Wilson
What do you need? Im near Danville Illinois and have some LC-LC cables. Also have some LC-SC. I think all mine are 1 meter. Other than that I don’t know of anyone until you get to Indianapolis. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net www.mtin.net www.midwest-ix.com > On Mar 3, 2018, at 7:15 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] 39ghz

2018-03-03 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, it could come in handy if you ever decide to start an ISP in one of those African countries... On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 9:29 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > Not any more. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie > *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] Memcached

2018-03-03 Thread Justin Wilson
Why does anyone run a bridged network? Why does anyone expose their management ip ranges to the internet? Why does anyone not upgrade firmware to fix security vulnerabilities that are years old? Shall I go on? :-) Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net www.mtin.net www.midwest-ix.com > On Mar 3,

Re: [AFMUG] 39ghz

2018-03-03 Thread Rory Conaway
Not any more. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2018 7:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 39ghz Yeah, wouldn't be so bad if the equipment had any residual value, I'm not sure it does though. On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 11:31

Re: [AFMUG] Memcached

2018-03-03 Thread Steve Jones
Why does anyone have non acl input allow on infrastructure On Mar 3, 2018 3:39 PM, "Justin Wilson" wrote: > Do the following. > > 1.Dont have it listen on public ports. > 2.IPtables if you must have it listen on public ports for whatever reason. > 3.Compile with libwrap and use

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Steve Jones
You folks confuse part 15 and common sense with the united states judiciary. On Mar 3, 2018 8:03 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > No, it lies upon willfull impedance of a contactual obligation. > > On Mar 3, 2018 3:57 PM, "Tim Hardy" wrote: > >> So,

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Steve Jones
No, it lies upon willfull impedance of a contactual obligation. On Mar 3, 2018 3:57 PM, "Tim Hardy" wrote: > So, their claim still rests upon harmful RF interference as the cause of > damages, whether they mention RF interference or not. I’m no attorney but > have seen

Re: [AFMUG] 39ghz

2018-03-03 Thread Jason McKemie
Yeah, wouldn't be so bad if the equipment had any residual value, I'm not sure it does though. On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 3/3/18 01:00, Jason McKemie wrote: > >> Yeah, I figured that is what they would do. Just rambling / complaining a >> bit.

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Tim Hardy
Good example of FCC position on this subject and this particular band has licenses - albeit lightly licensed. https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-11-21A1.pdf

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Mathew Howard
Maybe, but it doesn't sound like it... and even if they did, it's going to be pretty tough to know that they're purposely trying to interfere versus just too stupid or lazy to try and avoid your stuff. We had a competitor put up a new 3.65ghz LTE radio awhile ago in the same town where we've had

[AFMUG] Fiber patch cables retail in central il?

2018-03-03 Thread Steve Jones
Is there a place in central illinois that retails single mode lc patch cables a guy could go pick 4 up at?

Re: [AFMUG] Introduction

2018-03-03 Thread Lewis Bergman
I thought that was it but it had been so long I want sure. On Sat, Mar 3, 2018, 3:41 PM Jon Lee wrote: > SRB - Service Record Book >

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI Calling UGH!

2018-03-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
Sell them Surecall boostercarrier agnostic. They simply work Jaime Solorza On Mar 3, 2018 2:59 PM, "Jon Lee" wrote: > We have had a few WiFi calling issues on our networks as well. What I have > run into is people get the ATT "Booster" and hook it up right next

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI Calling UGH!

2018-03-03 Thread Jon Lee
We have had a few WiFi calling issues on our networks as well. What I have run into is people get the ATT "Booster" and hook it up right next to their wireless router and both are on 2.4 and what do you know you have interference / signal attenuation. I try to convince them to just unplug the

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Tim Hardy
So, their claim still rests upon harmful RF interference as the cause of damages, whether they mention RF interference or not. I’m no attorney but have seen these types of claims routinely rejected due to federal preemption. Unlicensed operations have no prior right of nterference protection and

Re: [AFMUG] Introduction

2018-03-03 Thread Jon Lee
SRB - Service Record Book

Re: [AFMUG] Memcached

2018-03-03 Thread Justin Wilson
Do the following. 1.Dont have it listen on public ports. 2.IPtables if you must have it listen on public ports for whatever reason. 3.Compile with libwrap and use tcpwrappers for the best security Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net www.mtin.net www.midwest-ix.com > On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:13 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Robert
Astonished that you haven't already... I feel like driving into his area and dropping a old bunch of M5's with junk antennas on fences pointed at his AP's with ethernet that looks like it's running into some random building... (with the sigh taunting or not?) On 3/3/18 11:58 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Rory Conaway
We tell our customers to turn off their 5GHz modes just so we don't have to track it down. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2018 11:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

Re: [AFMUG] COW trailer - looking to rent or buy

2018-03-03 Thread Brett A Mansfield
Like! Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:31 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > > Riders of Rohan UNITE! > > From: Af On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 11:42 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COW

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/3/18 11:01, Mathew Howard wrote: But again, the only way that claim is going to hold up is if he can prove that somebody setup a transmitter for the specific purpose of interfering with his contracts. Or that any competition in general is interfering with his contracts.

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread chuck
I would taunt him. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2018 11:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet No, but that's unrelated. This is the meat of their claim. As a result, you will be interfering with my client's contracts and the business he

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Maybe they did. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2018 1:01:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone

Re: [AFMUG] COW trailer - looking to rent or buy

2018-03-03 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Riders of Rohan UNITE! From: Af On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 11:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COW trailer - looking to rent or buy Stupid autocorrect. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:04 PM, TJ Trout

Re: [AFMUG] OT wind

2018-03-03 Thread Mathew Howard
You might want to do something about that... On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 10:54 AM, wrote: > Not on the soda fountain... > > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Friday, March 2, 2018 8:59 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT wind > > You don't have battery backup haaha > >

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Mathew Howard
But again, the only way that claim is going to hold up is if he can prove that somebody setup a transmitter for the specific purpose of interfering with his contracts. On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > No, but that's unrelated. > > This is the meat of

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI Calling UGH!

2018-03-03 Thread Matt Hoppes
Nope. Just one customer using Republic Wireless having some odd issue. Otherwise it’s business as usual and I use it all the time myself. > On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:15, David M wrote: > > hello to the borg > > I have a couple of customers who have an issue with wifi calling

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Mike Hammett
No, but that's unrelated. This is the meat of their claim. As a result, you will be interfering with my client's contracts and the business he expects to realize from those contracts which will result in not only damage to his reputation but financial damages to him and, potentially,

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Jay Weekley
2.5 GHz? I'm not the sharpest bulb in the box or something like that so maybe I missed something. https://www.airebeam.com/dualband/ "Dual Band Routers – Not on AireBeam’s Network Routers – Dual Band Prohibited Dual Band routers broadcast on two frequencies, 2.5 GHz and 5 Ghz. AireBeam’s

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Lewis Bergman
I am not sure why a response is even warranted. I don't feel obligated to respond unless I get a notice with a squiggly line down the left side. If you did want to respond to something so rediculous I would just call, not sure the effort of writing is warranted. On Sat, Mar 3, 2018, 10:03 AM Jay

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Robert Andrews
Are they sending legal papers to the _neighbors_ of their customers? Or to Comcast for their open 5.8 transmitters on the cable feeds? Boy what a rats nest they are trying to open. I'll bet the Comcast lawyers posted it on their billboard and either laughed or said "maybe we should try

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Jay Weekley
Do you think they have a right to tell everyone in their coverage area to stop using certain channels? Mike Hammett wrote: That's likely unrelated to their claim. This list has a very difficult time identifying what their claim actually is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Jay Weekley
Yeah, they offered to take their dual band router off of their hands and replace it with one of their 2.4 routers free of charge. Steve Jones wrote: They essentially did that. One of rhe many hateful facebook threads was about how they were twlling customers not to use dual band routers and

Re: [AFMUG] 39ghz

2018-03-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/3/18 01:00, Jason McKemie wrote: Yeah, I figured that is what they would do. Just rambling / complaining a bit. The whole thing was fishy with leases that can be canceled on a whim. Totally unsuitable for any serious deployment, it was just a spectrum grab and hope someone big would

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Mike Hammett
That's likely unrelated to their claim. This list has a very difficult time identifying what their claim actually is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jeremy"

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread chuck
I would not bother paying a lawyer to reply. I would write the letter myself. From: Jeremy Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2018 10:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet Righhht. They would have to make this claim against the general public as well. No court

[AFMUG] WIFI Calling UGH!

2018-03-03 Thread David M
hello to the borg I have a couple of customers who have an issue with wifi calling WTH! Mainly ATT customer that has it. I am not sure its a port thing or a fragmentation thingy or whatever because we do not block any thing on the forwarding table except P2P and L7 stuff for reducing DMCA

Re: [AFMUG] Memcached

2018-03-03 Thread David M
I block it on the input for any router we have. I havent considered doing for the forward table. On 3/2/2018 3:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: You are blocking port 11211, right? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Jeremy
Righhht. They would have to make this claim against the general public as well. No court will uphold that the citizens do not have the right to use dual-band routers. I would definitely have my attorneys send a reply if I received this letter. On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] OT wind

2018-03-03 Thread chuck
Not on the soda fountain... From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 8:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT wind You don't have battery backup haaha On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Twice today the winds caused us to lose one phase at

Re: [AFMUG] Question for the Kopacetic Kool Kat Group

2018-03-03 Thread Steve Jones
Charges? We dont need no stinkin charges. At least thats what people round here say. On Mar 2, 2018 11:18 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: Thanks Lewis... Jaime Solorza On Mar 2, 2018 7:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > ~$500 per link the way I do

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Steve Jones
They essentially did that. One of rhe many hateful facebook threads was about how they were twlling customers not to use dual band routers and only ever use 2.4 routers On Mar 2, 2018 4:55 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: > They better start sending those letters to

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Steve Jones
This is what i keep saying. Theyre not going at part 15. Thats why i want to see it at court. And what kind of judge gets the case. The right judge would potentially try aome net nuetrality ploy in a ruling, even though its completely bunk. We have activist judges who are no longer jurists.

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Mathew Howard
They're letter basically states that nobody else can use specific 5ghz channels (which are "the commons") for certain purposes, because they're using them. How is that not claiming an exclusive right to the commons? Forrest's loading zone example isn't even quite accurate, because that would only

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

2018-03-03 Thread Mathew Howard
Right, in that scenario, Joe probably has a valid case... but I haven't heard anything that makes me believe that's what's happening here. What actually is happening is the scenario where Fred happens to be using the loading zone for the bar next door at the times Joe needs it. Fred can just as

Re: [AFMUG] 39ghz

2018-03-03 Thread Jason McKemie
Yeah, I figured that is what they would do. Just rambling / complaining a bit. On Friday, March 2, 2018, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 3/2/18 6:15 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: > >> Just got the letter today. They say they're going to be using it for >> their 5G deployment - they

Re: [AFMUG] Introduction

2018-03-03 Thread Lewis Bergman
Excuse my ignorance or perhaps, forgetfulness. SRB? On Fri, Mar 2, 2018, 10:26 PM Jon Lee wrote: > Thanks for the Welcome. > > Lewis, that's an impressive SRB! In and out of the Corps. > >