Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Josh Luthman]

Cambium has a WiFi thing that's rated, I remember talking to someone there
about it.  Damned expensive to get that certification, though.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Stephen Patrick <
stephen.patr...@cablefree.co.uk> wrote:

> Just in case it's of interest,
>
> We had similar enquiry for Oil/Gas Rigs where "ATEX Zone 1" intrinsically
> safe is required.
> We have an upgrade version available for our CableFree MIMO radios
> (includes the WiFi outdoor AP) to make them compliant - and becomes
> certified as well.
> Might be relevant to your sites.
> I'm talking about these devices:
> www.cablefree.net/wifi
>
> It's not cheap, but can be done.
>
> Best regards
> Stephen
>
> On 27 July 2017 at 02:55, Jaime Solorza  wrote:
>
>> These are some used at Western Refinery...I have no experience with
>> them.  Friend of mine works there...two way radios are intrinsic safe
>> Motorola brand...
>> https://www.pixavi.com/product/wifi-infrastructure/?gclid=
>> CjwKEAjw--DLBRCN_bW36taJkhwSJABSMEdubahRNHWAux_jz1JLAeo11AnT
>> jU1KKTM2vJQnqwQEYBoCtW3w_wcB
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Jul 26, 2017 7:41 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Correct the complete "assembly" must adhere to standard.  You can find
>>> white papers and standards on ISA.org
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2017 2:18 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 If it is certified IS in that config then yes.

 On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:15 PM can...@believewireless.net <
 p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> ​Would mounting the AP outside and then running coax in to antennas be
> acceptable in this situation?​
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Lewis Bergman <
> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Could be IS/HAZLOC locations like gas plants or refineries. We deal
>> with a bunch of those and they have IS tablets they use to keep track of
>> work orders and lockouts and such. Most still use paper tickets though.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:57 PM can...@believewireless.net <
>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>
> Customer requested it. But I'm guessing phones, tablets or laptops.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, George Skorup <
>>> george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>>
 I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi
 solutions at gas stations before, but not near the pumps.

 On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:

 It is for WiFi.

 On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup <
 george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i
> stuff. Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be 
> using
> mobile devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.
>
>
> On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>
> canopy 450i
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
>> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas
>> fueling station. Any recommendations?
>>
>
>
>


>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Stephen Patrick]

Just in case it's of interest,

We had similar enquiry for Oil/Gas Rigs where "ATEX Zone 1" intrinsically
safe is required.
We have an upgrade version available for our CableFree MIMO radios
(includes the WiFi outdoor AP) to make them compliant - and becomes
certified as well.
Might be relevant to your sites.
I'm talking about these devices:
www.cablefree.net/wifi

It's not cheap, but can be done.

Best regards
Stephen

On 27 July 2017 at 02:55, Jaime Solorza  wrote:

> These are some used at Western Refinery...I have no experience with them.
> Friend of mine works there...two way radios are intrinsic safe Motorola
> brand...
> https://www.pixavi.com/product/wifi-infrastructure/?
> gclid=CjwKEAjw--DLBRCN_bW36taJkhwSJABSMEdubahRNHWAux_
> jz1JLAeo11AnTjU1KKTM2vJQnqwQEYBoCtW3w_wcB
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Jul 26, 2017 7:41 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> Correct the complete "assembly" must adhere to standard.  You can find
>> white papers and standards on ISA.org
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Jul 26, 2017 2:18 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>
>>> If it is certified IS in that config then yes.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:15 PM can...@believewireless.net <
>>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>>
 ​Would mounting the AP outside and then running coax in to antennas be
 acceptable in this situation?​

 On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:

> Could be IS/HAZLOC locations like gas plants or refineries. We deal
> with a bunch of those and they have IS tablets they use to keep track of
> work orders and lockouts and such. Most still use paper tickets though.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:57 PM can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
 Customer requested it. But I'm guessing phones, tablets or laptops.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, George Skorup <
>> george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi
>>> solutions at gas stations before, but not near the pumps.
>>>
>>> On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>>>
>>> It is for WiFi.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup <
>>> george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i
 stuff. Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be 
 using
 mobile devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.


 On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

 canopy 450i


 On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
 p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas
> fueling station. Any recommendations?
>



>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Jaime Solorza]

These are some used at Western Refinery...I have no experience with them.
Friend of mine works there...two way radios are intrinsic safe Motorola
brand...
https://www.pixavi.com/product/wifi-infrastructure/?gclid=CjwKEAjw--DLBRCN_bW36taJkhwSJABSMEdubahRNHWAux_jz1JLAeo11AnTjU1KKTM2vJQnqwQEYBoCtW3w_wcB

Jaime Solorza

On Jul 26, 2017 7:41 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Correct the complete "assembly" must adhere to standard.  You can find
> white papers and standards on ISA.org
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Jul 26, 2017 2:18 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
>> If it is certified IS in that config then yes.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:15 PM can...@believewireless.net <
>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>
>>> ​Would mounting the AP outside and then running coax in to antennas be
>>> acceptable in this situation?​
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Could be IS/HAZLOC locations like gas plants or refineries. We deal
 with a bunch of those and they have IS tablets they use to keep track of
 work orders and lockouts and such. Most still use paper tickets though.

 On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:57 PM can...@believewireless.net <
 p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

>>> Customer requested it. But I'm guessing phones, tablets or laptops.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, George Skorup <
> george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi
>> solutions at gas stations before, but not near the pumps.
>>
>> On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>>
>> It is for WiFi.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup <
>> george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i
>>> stuff. Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using
>>> mobile devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>>
>>> canopy 450i
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
>>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>>
 Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas
 fueling station. Any recommendations?

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Jaime Solorza]

Correct the complete "assembly" must adhere to standard.  You can find
white papers and standards on ISA.org

Jaime Solorza

On Jul 26, 2017 2:18 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

> If it is certified IS in that config then yes.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:15 PM can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
>> ​Would mounting the AP outside and then running coax in to antennas be
>> acceptable in this situation?​
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Could be IS/HAZLOC locations like gas plants or refineries. We deal with
>>> a bunch of those and they have IS tablets they use to keep track of work
>>> orders and lockouts and such. Most still use paper tickets though.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:57 PM can...@believewireless.net <
>>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>>
>> Customer requested it. But I'm guessing phones, tablets or laptops.

 On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, George Skorup <
 george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi
> solutions at gas stations before, but not near the pumps.
>
> On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>
> It is for WiFi.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup <
> george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i
>> stuff. Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using
>> mobile devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.
>>
>>
>> On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>
>> canopy 450i
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas
>>> fueling station. Any recommendations?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Lewis Bergman]

If it is certified IS in that config then yes.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:15 PM can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> ​Would mounting the AP outside and then running coax in to antennas be
> acceptable in this situation?​
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> Could be IS/HAZLOC locations like gas plants or refineries. We deal with
>> a bunch of those and they have IS tablets they use to keep track of work
>> orders and lockouts and such. Most still use paper tickets though.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:57 PM can...@believewireless.net <
>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>
> Customer requested it. But I'm guessing phones, tablets or laptops.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, George Skorup >> > wrote:
>>>
 I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi solutions
 at gas stations before, but not near the pumps.

 On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:

 It is for WiFi.

 On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup <
 george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i
> stuff. Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using
> mobile devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.
>
>
> On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>
> canopy 450i
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
>> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
>> station. Any recommendations?
>>
>
>
>


>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[can...@believewireless.net]

​Would mounting the AP outside and then running coax in to antennas be
acceptable in this situation?​

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> Could be IS/HAZLOC locations like gas plants or refineries. We deal with a
> bunch of those and they have IS tablets they use to keep track of work
> orders and lockouts and such. Most still use paper tickets though.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:57 PM can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
>> Customer requested it. But I'm guessing phones, tablets or laptops.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi solutions
>>> at gas stations before, but not near the pumps.
>>>
>>> On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>>>
>>> It is for WiFi.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup >> > wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i
 stuff. Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using
 mobile devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.


 On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

 canopy 450i


 On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
 p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
> station. Any recommendations?
>



>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Lewis Bergman]

Could be IS/HAZLOC locations like gas plants or refineries. We deal with a
bunch of those and they have IS tablets they use to keep track of work
orders and lockouts and such. Most still use paper tickets though.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:57 PM can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Customer requested it. But I'm guessing phones, tablets or laptops.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi solutions
>> at gas stations before, but not near the pumps.
>>
>> On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>>
>> It is for WiFi.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i stuff.
>>> Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using mobile
>>> devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>>
>>> canopy 450i
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
>>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>>
 Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
 station. Any recommendations?

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[can...@believewireless.net]

Customer requested it. But I'm guessing phones, tablets or laptops.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi solutions at
> gas stations before, but not near the pumps.
>
> On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>
> It is for WiFi.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i stuff.
>> Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using mobile
>> devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.
>>
>>
>> On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>
>> canopy 450i
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
>>> station. Any recommendations?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[George Skorup]

I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi solutions 
at gas stations before, but not near the pumps.


On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:

It is for WiFi.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:


Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i
stuff. Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be
using mobile devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.


On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

canopy 450i


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net
 > wrote:

Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas
fueling station. Any recommendations?

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[can...@believewireless.net]

It is for WiFi.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i stuff.
> Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using mobile
> devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.
>
>
> On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>
> canopy 450i
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
>> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
>> station. Any recommendations?
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[George Skorup]

Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i stuff. 
Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using mobile 
devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.


On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

canopy 450i


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net 
 > wrote:


Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas
fueling station. Any recommendations?

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Sean Heskett]

canopy 450i


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
> station. Any recommendations?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Eric Muehleisen]

Moxa has an IP68 rating I believe.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
> station. Any recommendations?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Jaime Solorza]

Look for intrinsic radios...Moxa is on source


Jaime Solorza

On Jul 26, 2017 8:24 AM, "can...@believewireless.net" <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
> station. Any recommendations?
>

[AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[can...@believewireless.net]

Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
station. Any recommendations?