Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

[Chuck Hogg]

We're talking with a plow bladenot drill.

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Unless you have bored it first and are backpulling, right?
>
> *From:* Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:39 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench
>
> Pulling conduit can result in it basically squeezing itself thin too...I
> can't go more than 150-300' without busting conduit by pulling here.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm talking about conduit, not the fiber itself.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 25, 2016, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dont pull in.  Fiber is not meant for that.
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 25, 2016, Jason McKemie <
>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are those pull-in only or do they have a chute blade available? I'd
>>>> think that it would be pretty difficult to pull-in 600' without breaking it
>>>> into sections.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, July 25, 2016, Joe Falaschi <listm...@wi.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We’ve used Toro Dingos with the vibratory plow for small projects like
>>>>> this.  It was pretty easy and inexpensive to rent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Jason McKemie <
>>>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just trench it yourself if none of the property owners have an issue
>>>>> with it.  Do yourself a favor and get a trencher with a back-fill blade
>>>>> though.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Aaron Fitzgerald <aa...@wifitz.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey guys --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd been talking with a local data center and fiber contractor in
>>>>>> town about running dark fiber from the data center to a cell tower that 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> about 600ft from the exterior pull boxes. Both the fiber carrier I have
>>>>>> been talking to and the data center have their own pull box. The fiber
>>>>>> company wants around $100k in total for NRC + 5 yr MRC. Seems way too
>>>>>> expensive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The data center owner asked a fairly obvious question: the run is
>>>>>> short, why not do it yourself? To be honest it's not something Id' ever
>>>>>> considered. The data center is willing to let me pay for a cross to the
>>>>>> carrier hotel, pull fiber to his outside pullbox and connect to the 
>>>>>> outside
>>>>>> world from there. The land owner where the cell tower sits would be game 
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> well -- I'd be paying him rent for usage of the tower afterall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How would one even get started with this? Ease and pros/cons of
>>>>>> boring vs trenching? I don't imagine I would need to worry about any
>>>>>> protection from conduit on a run this short
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Fiber newb
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron Fitzgerald - CEO/CIO
>>>>>> wiFitz Network Services
>>>>>> Serving NE Iowa's Creative Corridor
>>>>>> Phone: 319/540-8999
>>>>>> Web: http://www.wifitz.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wiFitz is a service of Fitzgerald Embedded, LLC
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

[Jason McKemie]

Yeah, I don't go more than about 200' for that reason. Someone mentioned a
DW Zahn, I thought they were pull-in only.

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> Pulling conduit can result in it basically squeezing itself thin too...I
> can't go more than 150-300' without busting conduit by pulling here.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm talking about conduit, not the fiber itself.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 25, 2016, Chuck Hogg > > wrote:
>>
>>> Dont pull in.  Fiber is not meant for that.
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 25, 2016, Jason McKemie <
>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>
 Are those pull-in only or do they have a chute blade available? I'd
 think that it would be pretty difficult to pull-in 600' without breaking it
 into sections.

 On Monday, July 25, 2016, Joe Falaschi  wrote:

> We’ve used Toro Dingos with the vibratory plow for small projects like
> this.  It was pretty easy and inexpensive to rent.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
> Just trench it yourself if none of the property owners have an issue
> with it.  Do yourself a favor and get a trencher with a back-fill blade
> though.
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Aaron Fitzgerald 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys --
>>
>> I'd been talking with a local data center and fiber contractor in
>> town about running dark fiber from the data center to a cell tower that 
>> is
>> about 600ft from the exterior pull boxes. Both the fiber carrier I have
>> been talking to and the data center have their own pull box. The fiber
>> company wants around $100k in total for NRC + 5 yr MRC. Seems way too
>> expensive.
>>
>> The data center owner asked a fairly obvious question: the run is
>> short, why not do it yourself? To be honest it's not something Id' ever
>> considered. The data center is willing to let me pay for a cross to the
>> carrier hotel, pull fiber to his outside pullbox and connect to the 
>> outside
>> world from there. The land owner where the cell tower sits would be game 
>> as
>> well -- I'd be paying him rent for usage of the tower afterall.
>>
>> How would one even get started with this? Ease and pros/cons of
>> boring vs trenching? I don't imagine I would need to worry about any
>> protection from conduit on a run this short
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> /Fiber newb
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Aaron Fitzgerald - CEO/CIO
>> wiFitz Network Services
>> Serving NE Iowa's Creative Corridor
>> Phone: 319/540-8999
>> Web: http://www.wifitz.net
>>
>> wiFitz is a service of Fitzgerald Embedded, LLC
>>
>
>
>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

[Jason McKemie]

I'm talking about conduit, not the fiber itself.

On Monday, July 25, 2016, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> Dont pull in.  Fiber is not meant for that.
>
> On Monday, July 25, 2016, Jason McKemie  > wrote:
>
>> Are those pull-in only or do they have a chute blade available? I'd think
>> that it would be pretty difficult to pull-in 600' without breaking it into
>> sections.
>>
>> On Monday, July 25, 2016, Joe Falaschi  wrote:
>>
>>> We’ve used Toro Dingos with the vibratory plow for small projects like
>>> this.  It was pretty easy and inexpensive to rent.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Jason McKemie <
>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just trench it yourself if none of the property owners have an issue
>>> with it.  Do yourself a favor and get a trencher with a back-fill blade
>>> though.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Aaron Fitzgerald 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey guys --

 I'd been talking with a local data center and fiber contractor in town
 about running dark fiber from the data center to a cell tower that is about
 600ft from the exterior pull boxes. Both the fiber carrier I have been
 talking to and the data center have their own pull box. The fiber company
 wants around $100k in total for NRC + 5 yr MRC. Seems way too expensive.

 The data center owner asked a fairly obvious question: the run is
 short, why not do it yourself? To be honest it's not something Id' ever
 considered. The data center is willing to let me pay for a cross to the
 carrier hotel, pull fiber to his outside pullbox and connect to the outside
 world from there. The land owner where the cell tower sits would be game as
 well -- I'd be paying him rent for usage of the tower afterall.

 How would one even get started with this? Ease and pros/cons of boring
 vs trenching? I don't imagine I would need to worry about any protection
 from conduit on a run this short

 


 /Fiber newb

 --


 Aaron Fitzgerald - CEO/CIO
 wiFitz Network Services
 Serving NE Iowa's Creative Corridor
 Phone: 319/540-8999
 Web: http://www.wifitz.net

 wiFitz is a service of Fitzgerald Embedded, LLC

>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Chuck
>

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

[Chuck Hogg]

Dont pull in.  Fiber is not meant for that.

On Monday, July 25, 2016, Jason McKemie 
wrote:

> Are those pull-in only or do they have a chute blade available? I'd think
> that it would be pretty difficult to pull-in 600' without breaking it into
> sections.
>
> On Monday, July 25, 2016, Joe Falaschi  > wrote:
>
>> We’ve used Toro Dingos with the vibratory plow for small projects like
>> this.  It was pretty easy and inexpensive to rent.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just trench it yourself if none of the property owners have an issue with
>> it.  Do yourself a favor and get a trencher with a back-fill blade though.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Aaron Fitzgerald 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys --
>>>
>>> I'd been talking with a local data center and fiber contractor in town
>>> about running dark fiber from the data center to a cell tower that is about
>>> 600ft from the exterior pull boxes. Both the fiber carrier I have been
>>> talking to and the data center have their own pull box. The fiber company
>>> wants around $100k in total for NRC + 5 yr MRC. Seems way too expensive.
>>>
>>> The data center owner asked a fairly obvious question: the run is short,
>>> why not do it yourself? To be honest it's not something Id' ever
>>> considered. The data center is willing to let me pay for a cross to the
>>> carrier hotel, pull fiber to his outside pullbox and connect to the outside
>>> world from there. The land owner where the cell tower sits would be game as
>>> well -- I'd be paying him rent for usage of the tower afterall.
>>>
>>> How would one even get started with this? Ease and pros/cons of boring
>>> vs trenching? I don't imagine I would need to worry about any protection
>>> from conduit on a run this short
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> /Fiber newb
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Aaron Fitzgerald - CEO/CIO
>>> wiFitz Network Services
>>> Serving NE Iowa's Creative Corridor
>>> Phone: 319/540-8999
>>> Web: http://www.wifitz.net
>>>
>>> wiFitz is a service of Fitzgerald Embedded, LLC
>>>
>>
>>
>>

-- 
Regards,
Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

[Jason McKemie]

Are those pull-in only or do they have a chute blade available? I'd think
that it would be pretty difficult to pull-in 600' without breaking it into
sections.

On Monday, July 25, 2016, Joe Falaschi  wrote:

> We’ve used Toro Dingos with the vibratory plow for small projects like
> this.  It was pretty easy and inexpensive to rent.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
> > wrote:
>
> Just trench it yourself if none of the property owners have an issue with
> it.  Do yourself a favor and get a trencher with a back-fill blade though.
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Aaron Fitzgerald  > wrote:
>
>> Hey guys --
>>
>> I'd been talking with a local data center and fiber contractor in town
>> about running dark fiber from the data center to a cell tower that is about
>> 600ft from the exterior pull boxes. Both the fiber carrier I have been
>> talking to and the data center have their own pull box. The fiber company
>> wants around $100k in total for NRC + 5 yr MRC. Seems way too expensive.
>>
>> The data center owner asked a fairly obvious question: the run is short,
>> why not do it yourself? To be honest it's not something Id' ever
>> considered. The data center is willing to let me pay for a cross to the
>> carrier hotel, pull fiber to his outside pullbox and connect to the outside
>> world from there. The land owner where the cell tower sits would be game as
>> well -- I'd be paying him rent for usage of the tower afterall.
>>
>> How would one even get started with this? Ease and pros/cons of boring vs
>> trenching? I don't imagine I would need to worry about any protection from
>> conduit on a run this short
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> /Fiber newb
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Aaron Fitzgerald - CEO/CIO
>> wiFitz Network Services
>> Serving NE Iowa's Creative Corridor
>> Phone: 319/540-8999
>> Web: http://www.wifitz.net
>>
>> wiFitz is a service of Fitzgerald Embedded, LLC
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

[Joe Falaschi]

We’ve used Toro Dingos with the vibratory plow for small projects like this.  
It was pretty easy and inexpensive to rent.

Joe



> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Jason McKemie  
> wrote:
> 
> Just trench it yourself if none of the property owners have an issue with it. 
>  Do yourself a favor and get a trencher with a back-fill blade though.
> 
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Aaron Fitzgerald  > wrote:
> Hey guys --
> 
> I'd been talking with a local data center and fiber contractor in town about 
> running dark fiber from the data center to a cell tower that is about 600ft 
> from the exterior pull boxes. Both the fiber carrier I have been talking to 
> and the data center have their own pull box. The fiber company wants around 
> $100k in total for NRC + 5 yr MRC. Seems way too expensive.
> 
> The data center owner asked a fairly obvious question: the run is short, why 
> not do it yourself? To be honest it's not something Id' ever considered. The 
> data center is willing to let me pay for a cross to the carrier hotel, pull 
> fiber to his outside pullbox and connect to the outside world from there. The 
> land owner where the cell tower sits would be game as well -- I'd be paying 
> him rent for usage of the tower afterall.
> 
> How would one even get started with this? Ease and pros/cons of boring vs 
> trenching? I don't imagine I would need to worry about any protection from 
> conduit on a run this short 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> /Fiber newb
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Aaron Fitzgerald - CEO/CIO
> wiFitz Network Services
> Serving NE Iowa's Creative Corridor
> Phone: 319/540-8999 
> Web: http://www.wifitz.net 
> 
> wiFitz is a service of Fitzgerald Embedded, LLC
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

[Jason McKemie]

I did about 400' at about 3-4' depth. Backfilled by myself. That was not
fun, wouldn't do it again. Maybe I'm a wuss.

On Friday, July 22, 2016, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not tryin to sound like a badass er nuthin, but I've trenched that far
> with a pickaxe and a shovel.
> I was a little skinnier back then though.  You could probably hire a few
> people moping around Home Depot to get it done in a day or two the hard way.
>
> If you have permission from both landowners then just do it.  If you're a
> customer of both parties they're not going to give you trouble about it.
> You might want an easement, but I wouldn't bother unless there's another
> landowner in between who has no interest in it.  The two landowners you
> mention both stand to gain from you doing this (they gain your rent $$ if
> nothing else).
>
> From the picture I don't see any obstructions you would have to go under,
> so I can't imagine why you would bore it.  I think it's more a question of
> trenching vs plowing.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com');>>
> To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Sent: 7/22/2016 9:02:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench
>
>
> Just trench it yourself if none of the property owners have an issue with
> it.  Do yourself a favor and get a trencher with a back-fill blade though.
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Aaron Fitzgerald <aa...@wifitz.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aa...@wifitz.net');>> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys --
>>
>> I'd been talking with a local data center and fiber contractor in town
>> about running dark fiber from the data center to a cell tower that is about
>> 600ft from the exterior pull boxes. Both the fiber carrier I have been
>> talking to and the data center have their own pull box. The fiber company
>> wants around $100k in total for NRC + 5 yr MRC. Seems way too expensive.
>>
>> The data center owner asked a fairly obvious question: the run is short,
>> why not do it yourself? To be honest it's not something Id' ever
>> considered. The data center is willing to let me pay for a cross to the
>> carrier hotel, pull fiber to his outside pullbox and connect to the outside
>> world from there. The land owner where the cell tower sits would be game as
>> well -- I'd be paying him rent for usage of the tower afterall.
>>
>> How would one even get started with this? Ease and pros/cons of boring vs
>> trenching? I don't imagine I would need to worry about any protection from
>> conduit on a run this short
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>>
>> /Fiber newb
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Aaron Fitzgerald - CEO/CIO
>> wiFitz Network Services
>> Serving NE Iowa's Creative Corridor
>> Phone: 319/540-8999
>> Web: http://www.wifitz.net
>>
>> wiFitz is a service of Fitzgerald Embedded, LLC
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

[Bill Prince]

Yeah. 600' is practically a cakewalk. You didn't mention what the 
surface is, so I'm assuming you have dirt? If that's the case, and it's 
flat, you can do a 600' trench in a day with a ditchwitch. Probably a 
half day. I've done a couple hundred feet by myself on unlevel ground 
through rock.


keep us posted on your progress/plan.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 7/22/2016 6:37 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I'm not tryin to sound like a badass er nuthin, but I've trenched that 
far with a pickaxe and a shovel.
I was a little skinnier back then though.  You could probably hire a 
few people moping around Home Depot to get it done in a day or two the 
hard way.
If you have permission from both landowners then just do it. If you're 
a customer of both parties they're not going to give you trouble about 
it.  You might want an easement, but I wouldn't bother unless there's 
another landowner in between who has no interest in it.  The two 
landowners you mention both stand to gain from you doing this (they 
gain your rent $$ if nothing else).
From the picture I don't see any obstructions you would have to go 
under, so I can't imagine why you would bore it.  I think it's more a 
question of trenching vs plowing.

-- Original Message --
From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
<mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>>

To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 7/22/2016 9:02:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench
Just trench it yourself if none of the property owners have an issue 
with it.  Do yourself a favor and get a trencher with a back-fill 
blade though.


On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Aaron Fitzgerald <aa...@wifitz.net 
<mailto:aa...@wifitz.net>> wrote:


Hey guys --

I'd been talking with a local data center and fiber contractor in
town about running dark fiber from the data center to a cell
tower that is about 600ft from the exterior pull boxes. Both the
fiber carrier I have been talking to and the data center have
their own pull box. The fiber company wants around $100k in total
for NRC + 5 yr MRC. Seems way too expensive.

The data center owner asked a fairly obvious question: the run is
short, why not do it yourself? To be honest it's not something
Id' ever considered. The data center is willing to let me pay for
a cross to the carrier hotel, pull fiber to his outside pullbox
and connect to the outside world from there. The land owner where
the cell tower sits would be game as well -- I'd be paying him
rent for usage of the tower afterall.

How would one even get started with this? Ease and pros/cons of
boring vs trenching? I don't imagine I would need to worry about
any protection from conduit on a run this short

Inline image 1


/Fiber newb

-- 



Aaron Fitzgerald - CEO/CIO
wiFitz Network Services
Serving NE Iowa's Creative Corridor
Phone: 319/540-8999 <tel:319%2F540-8999>
Web: http://www.wifitz.net <http://www.wifitz.net/>

wiFitz is a service of Fitzgerald Embedded, LLC

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

[Adam Moffett]

I'm not tryin to sound like a badass er nuthin, but I've trenched that 
far with a pickaxe and a shovel.
I was a little skinnier back then though.  You could probably hire a few 
people moping around Home Depot to get it done in a day or two the hard 
way.


If you have permission from both landowners then just do it.  If you're 
a customer of both parties they're not going to give you trouble about 
it.  You might want an easement, but I wouldn't bother unless there's 
another landowner in between who has no interest in it.  The two 
landowners you mention both stand to gain from you doing this (they gain 
your rent $$ if nothing else).


From the picture I don't see any obstructions you would have to go 
under, so I can't imagine why you would bore it.  I think it's more a 
question of trenching vs plowing.



-- Original Message --
From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 7/22/2016 9:02:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

Just trench it yourself if none of the property owners have an issue 
with it.  Do yourself a favor and get a trencher with a back-fill blade 
though.


On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Aaron Fitzgerald <aa...@wifitz.net> 
wrote:

Hey guys --

I'd been talking with a local data center and fiber contractor in town 
about running dark fiber from the data center to a cell tower that is 
about 600ft from the exterior pull boxes. Both the fiber carrier I 
have been talking to and the data center have their own pull box. The 
fiber company wants around $100k in total for NRC + 5 yr MRC. Seems 
way too expensive.


The data center owner asked a fairly obvious question: the run is 
short, why not do it yourself? To be honest it's not something Id' 
ever considered. The data center is willing to let me pay for a cross 
to the carrier hotel, pull fiber to his outside pullbox and connect to 
the outside world from there. The land owner where the cell tower sits 
would be game as well -- I'd be paying him rent for usage of the tower 
afterall.


How would one even get started with this? Ease and pros/cons of boring 
vs trenching? I don't imagine I would need to worry about any 
protection from conduit on a run this short





/Fiber newb

--


Aaron Fitzgerald - CEO/CIO
wiFitz Network Services
Serving NE Iowa's Creative Corridor
Phone: 319/540-8999
Web: http://www.wifitz.net

wiFitz is a service of Fitzgerald Embedded, LLC

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

[timothy steele]

Get a ez-trencher and some conduit get done in half day with 2 guys unless
they demand it be deeper then 1ft

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016, 7:49 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> About 10 years ago I paid an underground boring company for about that
> distance under the parking lot between 2 buildings in an office park.  It
> was a total turnkey job and while I don’t remember the cost it was quite
> reasonable.  Being flexible about schedule and what diameter conduit (so
> they could use some  leftover they had from another job) helped.  They put
> in something like 2 inch PVC duct with mule tape, cored into the 2
> buildings, and put in some pipe and an LB at each building.
>
> Perhaps now with all the fiber projects going on it has gotten more
> difficult and expensive to hire a crew for this kind of job.
>
>
> *From:* Aaron Fitzgerald <aa...@wifitz.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2016 6:36 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Short fiber trench
>
> Hey guys --
>
> I'd been talking with a local data center and fiber contractor in town
> about running dark fiber from the data center to a cell tower that is about
> 600ft from the exterior pull boxes. Both the fiber carrier I have been
> talking to and the data center have their own pull box. The fiber company
> wants around $100k in total for NRC + 5 yr MRC. Seems way too expensive.
>
> The data center owner asked a fairly obvious question: the run is short,
> why not do it yourself? To be honest it's not something Id' ever
> considered. The data center is willing to let me pay for a cross to the
> carrier hotel, pull fiber to his outside pullbox and connect to the outside
> world from there. The land owner where the cell tower sits would be game as
> well -- I'd be paying him rent for usage of the tower afterall.
>
> How would one even get started with this? Ease and pros/cons of boring vs
> trenching? I don't imagine I would need to worry about any protection from
> conduit on a run this short
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
> /Fiber newb
>
> --
>
>
> Aaron Fitzgerald - CEO/CIO
> wiFitz Network Services
> Serving NE Iowa's Creative Corridor
> Phone: 319/540-8999
> Web: http://www.wifitz.net
>
> wiFitz is a service of Fitzgerald Embedded, LLC
>