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up should keep the customer trucking (with reduced >>>> capacity). I think you'd be installing at ranges of 1-3 miles for the >>>> 60ghz to >>>> run at decent MCS, and at that range I think you'll still get decent >>>> capacity >>>>

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...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Sent: 6/27/2017 10:01:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? 60 GHz PtMP at 1-3 miles? I want some of what

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ug.com> Sent: 6/27/2017 10:01:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? 60 GHz PtMP at 1-3 miles? I want some of whatever you're smoking because it must be some primo stuff. If you put up a few 500 to 800 meter distance 60 GHz PTP links and monitor them ov

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at range I think you'll still get >>> decent capacity out of the 5ghz. You'll get a lower speed test, but I'd >>> bet it's possible to design so that Netflix keeps running. >>> >>> >>> -- Original Message -- >>> From: "

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gt;> >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: 6/27/2017 11:38:32 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? >> >> 1. What is accept

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- Original Message -- > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 6/27/2017 11:38:32 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? > > 1. What is acceptable downtime on pure 60GHz. It is possible t

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To: af@afmug.com Sent: 6/27/2017 11:38:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? 1. What is acceptable downtime on pure 60GHz. It is possible to engineering it to practically no downtime although less economical. Zero. If it goes down the phone will ri

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And a well designed 60GHz system would have the same result. If you are counting rain, the IgniteNets also have 5GHz backups. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP

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: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? I'd say zero is not possible with any network. Lightning strikes, fiber gets cut, core routers die, etc. Murphy is very resourceful.  On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:38 AM Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 1. What

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- Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:38:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? 1. What is acceptable downtime on pure 60GHz. It is possible to engineering it

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I'd say zero is not possible with any network. Lightning strikes, fiber gets cut, core routers die, etc. Murphy is very resourceful.  On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:38 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > 1. What is acceptable downtime on pure 60GHz. It is possible to > engineering it to

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1. What is acceptable downtime on pure 60GHz. It is possible to engineering it to practically no downtime although less economical. Zero. If it goes down the phone will ring. With a well designed and installed Canopy system there was no downtime. 2. What is the acceptable backup

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m> wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias > > *From:* Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Monday, June 26, 2017 9:47 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? > > I did use my own money. Works great. :-) Wel

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experienced was coming out of Gino’s office one day. The street got 2 feet deep in about 10 minutes. Worried my spark plugs would short out. *From:* Gino A. Villarini *Sent:* Monday, June 26, 2017 9:10 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? Im

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232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 11:05:13 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? > I am waitin

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 9:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? I did use my own money. Works great. :-) Well, on a shorter path. Again, only math being

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Let’s pick this up again in one year. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 9:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? I did use my own money. Works great. :-) Well, on a shorter path. Again, only math being the difference. 60

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quot;Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 10:39:43 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? Simply math, lots of wrecked spacecraft on the surface of Mars due to simply math. Simply math does not model ev

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: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? You don't have to wonder. It's simply math. The big 2.5G IgniteNet has an about -40 signal at 1 km in open space. Full modulation breaks at -60 dB, so you have 20 dB of fade margin. Rain at 60 GHz is about 5 dB/km of attenuation, so you can

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- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 10:12:19 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? Any drop is going to cause a headache. If it drops more than say... dish network or direct tv due to th

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es. Worried my spark plugs would short out. > > *From:* Gino A. Villarini > *Sent:* Monday, June 26, 2017 9:10 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? > > Im testing it… > > From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.co

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? Im testing it… From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Date: Monday, June 26, 2017 at 11:05 AM To: "af@afmu

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/956205354504917?match=cmFpbg%3D%3D There are a few states that don't have the rainfall information available (Texas and the NW), but it's fairly "easy" to see how often

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I am waiting to hear from folks in Florida how 60 GHz does during heavy rains. I remain a 60 GHz luddite. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 8:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? I’m not dissing 60GHz, I’m all

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: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? As with all things, past performance may not be indicative of future performance. ;-) There is a lot of innovation happening in the mmwave space that will change and is already changing suburban and urban deployments. Just look

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t; realistic after seeing their last efforts. > > Rory > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 8:38 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M in

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- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 8:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? There are some folks working on some very interesting possibilities ... Late nite sessions in the Hotel

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inal Message - > From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 8:18:13 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? > That's similar to what I was thinking, but you have more detail

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appytelecom.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 6/25/2017 5:30:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? Context, context context... everyone has a different picture in their mind when the word "Mesh" is mentioned. However not everyone out there is

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Will either of those protocols actually scale to a reasonable number of nodes? Jared   Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 From: "Gino A. Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M inves

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aturday, June 24, 2017 9:04:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? Season 2??? Season 4 its currently running! Gylfoile its the man! On 6/24/17, 5:04 PM, "Af on behalf of Sterling Jacobson" Gino A. Villarini President

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lt;mailto:p...@believewireless.net>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 9:34 AM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject

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gt;> So someone rediscovered mesh? Umm, yea. $7M down the tubes. >> >> Rory >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz >

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fmug.com>] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:41 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? > They advertise 75 Mbps symmetrical service. What radio

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5jF5jtMM_4 From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 8:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? Season 2??? Season 4 its currently running! Gylfoile its the man! On 6/24/17, 5:04 PM, &qu

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Remember that canopy mesh system that looked like a 55 gallon barrel on top of a pole. Wasn’t that thing supposed to be beamforming? From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 8:26 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? I

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Oh, I probably meant the latest season then. I've seen more than one season, lol! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 8:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? Season 2

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; wrote: > So someone rediscovered mesh? Umm, yea. $7M down the tubes. > > Rory > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:41 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] S

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Imtiaz > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:41 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? > > > They advertise 75 Mbps symmetrical service. What radio will do this? > > All kidding aside, and while I am not going to

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On 6/24/17 7:04 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Season 2??? Season 4 its currently running! Gylfoile its the man! Season 4 finale tomorrow.

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inen >Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:57 PM >To: af@afmug.com >Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? > >On 6/24/17 13:54, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> Good way to turn $7M into nothing. > > >If you haven't watched Silicon Valley on HBO, you should.

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So someone rediscovered mesh? Umm, yea. $7M down the tubes. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment

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t; Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 4:54:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? > "We use FCC-approved antennas that transmit data using 5 GHz signals, > similar to the radios in your wifi router, cell phone, or iPad. These small > antennas

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Oh yeah, I've got to get caught up on season 2! That show is hilarious! -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 3:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment

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I am a big fan. Big Head is a hoot. And that female spock character. I think I have known someone like every character on that show. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup

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Not exactly the true hybrid model, but sort of like Vivint and others I guess. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? Things that make you

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And so they convinced a couple of VCs to give them a bucket of money. Let's check back in in a couple years. bp On 6/24/2017 1:58 PM, Bill Prince wrote: The thing on the roof is UBNT. Probably running 40 MHz channels. Yeah. That will scale well. bp

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The thing on the roof is UBNT. Probably running 40 MHz channels. Yeah. That will scale well. bp On 6/24/2017 1:30 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Things that make you go umm� https://medium.com/@rquintini/the-lynchpin-of-the-future-8d3f8217a0ad *//* */Gino A.

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On 6/24/17 13:54, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Good way to turn $7M into nothing. If you haven't watched Silicon Valley on HBO, you should.

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oints of connectivity." -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? "We use FCC-approved antennas that transmit data using 5 GHz signals, similar to the

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outer." They advertise 75 Mbps symmetrical service. What radio will do this? Good way to turn $7M into nothing. From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? Things that make you go umm� https://

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