When you're 67 your pencil-lead will be broken and your razor won't shave
On 5/6/21 2:36 PM, dave via AF wrote:
If my mind is still as sharp as it is today when im 67 I will take my
time in retirement after visiting the oceans and mountains in our
nation and write a complete open source
Had a running server's power supply fail into a dead short on the 120v
side. Never had that happen before. Was quite exciting since I didn't
realize that the breaker had tripped and thought the PDU had died so I
moved the cord to a different PDU
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No 'rona, but every morning I did wake up with a bad case of "I'm
getting too old for this". Luckily only temporary symptoms.
On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 4:11 PM Matt Hoppes
wrote:
>
> I'm just curious more than anything... did any of you that went to
> WISPAMERICA catch COVID?
>
> --
> AF mailing
I've completed Pfizer and my parents completed Moderna 3 weeks ago.
Zero symptoms for all 3 of us on the first and second dose.
I was at the show and probably was masked 70% of the time and tried to only
take it off in groups of 5 or less people. Walking around the exhibit hall
and in session
We have exhausted all of our appeals, the only thing they will tell us is that
they don’t approve of our “products”. AKA internet service and that they are
happy for us to be a QB customer...
So, gonna get a stand alone billing system and just do a monthly journal entry
to move over the
Says free up to 100 customers. Works with IP Pay. Both of which I have used
in the past.
UBNT stuff looks pretty but I don’t need any of the main things it does.
And I don’t use any UBNT gear in the field.
From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:05 AM
To: AnimalFarm
Is Freeside the company Ivan supports?
-Original Message-
From: Larry Smith
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:15 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
On Thu May 6 2021 09:56, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
We have exhausted all of our appeals, the
On Thu May 6 2021 09:56, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> We have exhausted all of our appeals, the only thing they will tell us is
> that they don’t approve of our “products”. AKA internet service and that
> they are happy for us to be a QB customer...
>
> So, gonna get a stand alone billing system
Self hosted UISP checks your boxes.
It even has a QB online plugin that copies over revenue and invoices.
Its decent for free.
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Original message
From: Chuck McCown via AF
Date: 5/6/21 9:57 AM
I think Platypus is still free up to a certain number of active customers.
From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 8:56 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
We have exhausted all of our appeals, the only thing they will tell
Do I have to host Plat?
From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:05 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
I think Platypus is still free up to a certain number of active customers.
From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent:
I'd be careful of Plat if you want PCI compliance. In the systems I've seen
even within the last few months, they are still storing credit cards in
plain text in the DB.
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:40 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> Do I have to host Plat?
>
> *From:* Sterling Jacobson
> *Sent:*
I wouldn’t want to store any credit cards. People can click on the link on the
invoice and manually enter it each month.
From: David Sovereen via AF
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:56 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: David Sovereen
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
Platypus
IIRC, once you entered a CC into the enterprise version of QB,
the CC number went under control of Intuit in their cloud. You
could no longer access it, except to update it to a new card, and
then it "disappeared" again.
bp
On 5/6/2021 10:16 AM,
Bill was speaking of Quickbooks I thought.
On 5/6/2021 1:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
I wouldn't count on it. Most of the systems do this now (tokenize with
the processor and just store a token and last 4 to show the customer)
to take away your liability, but every instance of Plat I've seen
But if you never enter a CC card into plat, and the actual payment transaction
is done by IPPay, why would plat store a card number. I am not doing a
recurring billing. They have to pay manually each month, at least for now.
From: Cameron Crum
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 11:38 AM
To:
I’m pretty sure even a few years ago when I migrated from Plat to Sonar, that
Plat had fixed that internally with an update.
But Chuck could verify that with them.
And yes, you will need to host it yourself, unless there is a third party, or
they have a recommended hosting third party.
I forget
Platypus passes PCI compliance and stores credit card information in an
encrypted form when configured to do so. If you have an old install where your
credit card information was not encrypted by default, you can encrypt it by
going to the Maintenance Menu and choosing Encryption Manager.
Yes, he took a "vacation" but is back working now.
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On Thu May 6 2021 10:16, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> Is Freeside the company Ivan supports?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Smith
> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:15 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave
I'd assume they're storing a token and not the actual card number.
On 5/6/2021 1:20 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
IIRC, once you entered a CC into the enterprise version of QB, the CC
number went under control of Intuit in their cloud. You could no
longer access it, except to update it to a new
Our Plat install uses the Free MS SQL license. It has some kind of
limit on processor power or some such, but if Plat ever hit the limit I
couldn't tell.
.I don't know if MS still has a free version though. Our Plat
install is OLD.
On 5/6/2021 11:54 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
I'm curious how Intuit came to that conclusion, but maybe you'll never know.
On 5/6/2021 10:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
We have exhausted all of our appeals, the only thing they will tell us
is that they don’t approve of our “products”. AKA internet service and
that they are happy for us
When it came up for us, there was something about the term "ISP"
that was a dirty word within Intuit. My impression at the time was
that what they thought of as an internet service provider was
different from what we thought of it as.
We caught it early enough to
I wouldn't count on it. Most of the systems do this now (tokenize with the
processor and just store a token and last 4 to show the customer) to take
away your liability, but every instance of Plat I've seen has credit cards
in the DB.
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 12:23 PM Adam Moffett wrote:
> I'd
It’s well-known that lots of alcohol prevents covid…
From: AF on behalf of Caleb Knauer
Date: Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 6:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISPAMERICA COVID
No 'rona, but every morning I did wake up with a bad case of "I'm
getting too old for
You're working super hard to not work hard. Get a real billing system!
Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 2:09 PM Adam Moffett wrote:
> Well we had a fork in the conversation just now:
>
> If you enter
Clearly only 99% effective. Or the one guy didn't drink.
Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 2:16 PM Harold Bledsoe wrote:
> It’s well-known that lots of alcohol prevents covid…
>
>
>
> *From: *AF on
A good question for them. I don't know the answer.
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 12:52 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> But if you never enter a CC card into plat, and the actual payment
> transaction is done by IPPay, why would plat store a card number. I am not
> doing a recurring billing. They
Well we had a fork in the conversation just now:
If you enter a CC in a customer account in Plat, then it's stored in
your local MS SQL database; optionally with encryption if you configured
the encryption.
Anything modern is tokenizing and storing the token instead.
I understand your
I agree. The value of the time Chuck has spent trying to not go with a real
billing system has paid for that first year's billing system (if not more).
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
We are current Plat customer (in one WISP, using Emerald in another
- they're both quite capable). In the Plat WISP, we're billing 6400
subs using the free MSSQL license. No issues.
I was. and specifically of QBE.
bp
On 5/6/2021 10:47 AM, Adam Moffett
wrote:
Bill was speaking of Quickbooks I thought.
On 5/6/2021 1:38 PM, Cameron Crum
wrote:
I wouldn't count on
Freeside was the goto when support was good and available
We still use it heavily and its completely free outside of outside
support cost to help with new upgrades and modules.
I am pushing to find another open source that is widely supported.
It now has inventory accounting as well.
On
If my mind is still as sharp as it is today when im 67 I will take my
time in retirement after visiting the oceans and mountains in our nation
and write a complete open source product for ease of use.
On 5/6/21 4:30 PM, dave via AF wrote:
Freeside was the goto when support was good and
Pretty sure we are gonna give it a go with plat. Worked fine for me years ago.
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> On May 6, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Jesse DuPont
> wrote:
>
> We are current Plat customer (in one WISP, using Emerald in another -
> they're both quite capable). In the Plat WISP, we're billing
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and aren’t on mushrooms.”
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Be careful about PCI compliance.
I’d rather go with someone who tokenizes the card and stores it for you.
We use Stripe.com for our processor with UISP.
Zero PCI liability on our side. We never store the card. For that matter, the
actual numbers never even pass through our servers. Directly
I'd also consider Billmax if you're looking for billing only.It's less
expensive because it doesn't have all of the bells and whistles.
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 3:41 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> Pretty sure we are gonna give it a go with plat. Worked fine for me years
> ago.
>
> Sent from
Yes, so far that is all we are looking for.
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> On May 6, 2021, at 4:14 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account)
> wrote:
>
>
> I'd also consider Billmax if you're looking for billing only.It's less
> expensive because it doesn't have all of the bells and whistles.
>
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