Re: [AFMUG] Recent licensed link pricing?

2018-06-13 Thread Mathew Howard
Is the Bridgewave Navigator shipping yet? On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 7:26 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > Single or dual channel? What size dishes? Xpic? There are a whole bunch > of variables that go into the price. > > Jeff Broadwick > CTIconnect > 312-205-2519 Office > 574-220-7826 Cell >

Re: [AFMUG] The list

2018-06-13 Thread Mathew Howard
It looks like gmail defaults to reply to the sender only... it's going to take a bit to get used to hitting the reply-all button, but I don't see it as being a big deal if the majority prefers it that way. There are probably going to be a lot of messages not making it to the list until everybody

Re: [AFMUG] FWD: AC rocket to Rocket M5

2018-06-16 Thread Mathew Howard
Anything above 8.0 should work, but I would just use whatever the current version is (8.5.4, I think). On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:27 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > Forwarded Message > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another test > Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 22:19:21 -0600 > From: Jaime Solorza >

Re: [AFMUG] FWD: AC rocket to Rocket M5

2018-06-16 Thread Mathew Howard
Oh, also, you can't connect an AC Rocket in client mode to a Rocket M5 AP. UBNT backwards compatibility only works with the AC radio being the AP, as far as I know. On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Anything above 8.0 should work, but I would just use whatever the curr

Re: [AFMUG] Battery Charging

2018-06-19 Thread Mathew Howard
The battery charging current on the AD-155C is actually limited to 0.2A... which is kind of a good thing, in that you won't have the situation Mark mentioned where the system won't start because the batteries are drawing too much current, but it is going to take a few weeks to completely recharge

Re: [AFMUG] The list

2018-06-13 Thread Mathew Howard
100 Wayne St > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g> > Suite 1337 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g> > Troy, OH 45373 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g&

Re: [AFMUG] FW: Hybrid fiber/DC cables..

2018-06-13 Thread Mathew Howard
well, as long as they can make it faster than you can buy it, it's practically unlimited... On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 7:56 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Unlimited? You must work for AT and HughesNet part time. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 2.4

2018-06-27 Thread Mathew Howard
I've always figured it was best to just keep our 900mhz stuff on 5.6.9 (not that we have much 900mhz ubnt)... it seems to me that with since the majority of the changes in 6.0+ are related to AC backwards compatibility, it's more likely to cause problems than improve anything. On Wed, Jun 27,

Re: [AFMUG] Calling Forest Christian

2018-06-27 Thread Mathew Howard
seems like it would be kind of hard to fry a sync injector though... unless it's one of the old ones and you put 48v into it, or something like that. On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > You fried a sync injector. That's what you did wrong. > > > Josh Luthman > Office:

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: -48 vDC to 48 vDC

2018-06-25 Thread Mathew Howard
This is kind of odd... I was just checking a hEX POE with a meter, and I'm getting 24v (using a 24v power supply) when I check between the positive side of the power input and the SFP cage, or the shield on the USB port, but I'm getting about 9.5v going to the shield on the ethernet ports. I'm

Re: [AFMUG] Graphing epmp AP's and SM's

2018-06-22 Thread Mathew Howard
As far as I know, cnMaestro cloud and on-premise are both pretty much the same. The main reason that I setup on-premise was because our APs are on private IPs that can't see out to the internet. On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > off the orig topic, is cnmaestro on premise

Re: [AFMUG] Apex9 cable on POPs

2018-06-25 Thread Mathew Howard
We used that stuff for everything for awhile... as far as I can remember, we never had any problems with it to speak of. On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > Is this stuff pretty reliable? > We normally use BBDGE but had to run some EPMP APs in an emergency site > conversion

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: -48 vDC to 48 vDC

2018-06-25 Thread Mathew Howard
I'd imagine you'd be fine if you just turn poe-out off on all the ports. On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I got hEX PoE because they didn't have any hEX S. Now that I figure out > that hEX PoE won't work right, they have hEX S in stock. The hEX S has two > ports that

Re: [AFMUG] Changing from reply all to reply

2018-06-24 Thread Mathew Howard
I concur On Sun, Jun 24, 2018, 11:35 AM Steve Jones wrote: > Woot woot > That's two woots > > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 6:18 PM Ryan Ray wrote: > >> Is there any way we could change back to reply only? I understand it was >> for people who set an out of office but have we had that problem much

Re: [AFMUG] reply test

2018-06-24 Thread Mathew Howard
I'm not here On Sun, Jun 24, 2018, 4:24 PM CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > I'm here! I'm here! > > Sent from my smartphone > > - Reply message - > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Subject: [AFMUG] reply test > Date: Sun, Jun 24, 2018 3:51 PM > > Well, you me

Re: [AFMUG] baicells

2018-07-02 Thread Mathew Howard
Yep, as far as I know they've always said that they were going to eventually start charging, so anyone that's surprised by that probably should do a bit more research before they buy stuff. It is possible to use Baicells gear with your own EPC though, and avoiding paying that (granted that's

Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing

2018-07-02 Thread Mathew Howard
That seems a bit crazy... and why would it take 2 days? I'd guess they're saying four guys, so they can do both ends at the same time. But it's only 100' up... I could do that by myself, in less than a full day... On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I have a pair of PTP550s

Re: [AFMUG] baicells

2018-07-03 Thread Mathew Howard
ore CPEs but only if they are > functional. What’s missing? > > On Jul 3, 2018, at 18:14, Mathew Howard wrote: > > Yep, it'll probably get there eventually, but at this point, the software > is a bit crude. The Gen2 hardware is certainly a big improvement over the > earlier

Re: [AFMUG] baicells

2018-07-03 Thread Mathew Howard
Yep, it'll probably get there eventually, but at this point, the software is a bit crude. The Gen2 hardware is certainly a big improvement over the earlier stuff though (aside from the software side of things). On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Ryan Ray wrote: > LTE is LTE. However their

Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing

2018-07-03 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, $5k isn't unreasonable for a 3-4 man crew with a 1 full day minimum. But if one 3-4 man crew can't do that job in 1 day, I don't think that I would want them doing... anything. It's not like this is on a 400' tower. On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > Some climbing crews

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

2018-06-21 Thread Mathew Howard
e+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g> > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Mathew Howard > wrote: > >> No, there's not really a good reason, it just means you have an extra >> part to deal with. >> >> We still use UBNT for our 2.4ghz stuff, but those are the

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

2018-06-21 Thread Mathew Howard
ugh... I keep forgetting to use reply-to-all... Not every single UBNT radio... all the airfibers will happily take 48v. Mikrotik is finally starting to make most of the new stuff handle 48v (including the PowerBox Pro), but yeah. UBNT is the reason I still have to use 24v on most of our towers...

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

2018-06-21 Thread Mathew Howard
volts. > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:56 AM > *To:* Chuck McCown > *Cc:* Dave ; AFMUG > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz > > You mean like this? > https://www.ubnt.com/accessories/instant-8023af-adapters/ &g

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

2018-06-21 Thread Mathew Howard
You mean like this? https://www.ubnt.com/accessories/instant-8023af-adapters/ Or do you have something better in mind? On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:53 AM, wrote: > Me too... > So, what appetite is there for an inline POE regulator that would convert > 48 to 24? > > > *Fr

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

2018-06-21 Thread Mathew Howard
They'll either work or they won't on 24v - you won't get reduced power out of them, or anything like that (although sometimes you can temporarily fix voltage related issues by turning the TX power down). The kind of issues that you'll see with ePMP's on too low of voltage are going to be things

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

2018-06-21 Thread Mathew Howard
oogle.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g> > Troy, OH 45373 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g> > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Mathew Howard > wrote: > >> Well, MikroTik does have 48v now (the hEX Po

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

2018-06-21 Thread Mathew Howard
gher is always better. >> Wires are smaller. >> Everything is more efficient. >> Everything runs cooler. >> Less voltage drop. >> Less power loss in conductors. >> Sometimes simplifies the design of the load device. >> *From:* Josh Luthman >> *Sent:* Th

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Hola muchachos

2018-06-21 Thread Mathew Howard
All three, probably. Is that 76 Fahrenheit or Celcius? On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 2:30 PM, wrote: > > > *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 1:30 PM > *To:* Jaime Solorza > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Hola muchachos > > Hmmm, you turned 76 or you had –76 dBm or it was 76 degrees?

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

2018-06-21 Thread Mathew Howard
g> > Troy, OH 45373 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g> > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard > wrote: > >> Yeah, that's the easiest compromise at this point. >> >> What I'd like, is a box tha

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

2018-06-21 Thread Mathew Howard
cooler. > Less voltage drop. > Less power loss in conductors. > Sometimes simplifies the design of the load device. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 12:17 PM > *To:* Chuck McCown > *Cc:* Mathew Howard ; AFMUG > *Subject:* Re: [AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

2018-06-21 Thread Mathew Howard
t; > It was always 48 for the real telecom players. > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 11:52 AM > *To:* Mathew Howard > *Cc:* Chuck McCown ; AFMUG > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz > It was 48v > Then it was mostly 24v > Now it's go

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

2018-06-21 Thread Mathew Howard
t on the topic of 48v vs 24v there are a lot more solutions in >> ac-dc for 24v consumer level than 48v. and when 48v comes up most >> manufacturers instantly do 4x pricing it seems... >> >> On 06/21/2018 01:14 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: >> >>> Just think how

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-01 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah... most people seem to have a very unrealistic idea of what a 3D printer actually does. I'm pretty sure I can't go buy a cheap 3D printer, download that file, and have it spit out a functional gun 10 minutes later. If I post instructions on the internet for building a gun out of an old

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Mathew Howard
No... you have to use an ePMP AP with elevate. Even if you could do that, I doubt there'd be enough difference to matter. On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > You can load Elevate on a UBNT on a Force 200 and it will connect to a > UBNT AP? Is the Force 200 a better dish than

Re: [AFMUG] Force200 vs Force300

2018-07-31 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, the 300 is eventually supposed to be able to connect to the old APs, but I haven't heard anything about when that might be... all you can do with them on the current firmware is point to point. On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 11:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > 300 is an AC chipset. > Last time I

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-01 Thread Mathew Howard
... > > I don’t think they are going to be able to draw a line, but let’s assume > for a moment Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters are queens of the world. What > would they say I wonder... We can only rent sporks from the restaurant > while dining. No sharp pencils allowed? > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-01 Thread Mathew Howard
>From what I've heard (which really isn't much), it sounds like the judge's order was actually based on export restrictions, but I certainly got the impression that it was about restricting it inside the US. It seems to me that it will be difficult to keep a ban like that in place. I'm not trying

Re: [AFMUG] Will PMP/PTP 450i 900 MHz Work With Standard Polarity?

2018-08-01 Thread Mathew Howard
No, they will not. They need to have negative on pins 4&5 and positive on 7&8. It'll work fine if you just swap those two pairs in one end of the cable. On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 10:23 PM Christopher Gray wrote: > Will the PMP 450i 900 MHz SM work with standard polarity? I understand > they work

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
ium > > > oh yes they are. the agreement itself tells the user what they can and > can't do. the lawsuit is saying cambium violated that agreement by > changing the code, etc, and even using / reusing some of the same code. > and replacing the copyright with cambium's copyright, lo

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, one would hope that this company did something a little more substantial than just say some bad stuff for them to take it that far... On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 4:50 PM Robert wrote: > They have... > > On 8/10/18 10:52 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > Right, the fanboys will

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
I didn't know that... that's kind of disturbing. But on the other hand, shutting up a lot of the people on their forum would have improved it... On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 5:11 PM Robert wrote: > They have sued forum contributors to shut them up. > > On 8/10/18 2:54 PM, Mathew How

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
up. > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Mathew Howard > *To:* AFMUG > *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 2:41 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium > > Unless the radio is old enough that it came with firmware that didn't have > that feature... &

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
now, don't get me wrong, i have a soft spot for both companies. > >> they've both made me a lot of money. > >> i hate to see them doing this - - but i fully see ubnt's point of view > >> too. > >> > >> - Original Message - > >>

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
The thing I'm wondering about here, is what are they suing the WISP for (yes, I'm too lazy to go find the documents and read them)? On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:57 AM Lewis Bergman wrote: > My statement still stands. > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 10:10 AM Faisal Imtiaz > wrote: > >> Love the

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
I imagine the reason it didn't happen sooner, is because of the fact that it makes Ubiquiti look really bad (especially the part about suing a WISP... ). Also, they were probably trying to come up with an argument that would hold up. On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 9:55 AM Jason McKemie <

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
*From:* Robert Andrews > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 10:11 AM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium > > So much for being the winner by disruption... Yeah, you could see this > coming. Dear Robert has a lot of expenses... I just r

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
iolations. >> They also claim mail and wire fraud related to marketing the hacked >> firmware. >> >> In a nutshell, they refer to Blip and Winncomm as "co-conspirators" >> because they helped promote and distribute Elevate. >> >> >&g

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
gt; *To:* af@af.afmug.com > > *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 10:11 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium > > > > So much for being the winner by disruption... Yeah, you could see this > coming. Dear Robert has a lot of expenses... I just replaced a bu

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
The funny thing is, it's entirely possible that Ubiquiti sold some extra hardware because of Elevate. For example, in our case it took some pressure off to convert all our towers to ePMP as quickly, because any new CPE that we put out there would still be usable after we did eventually convert it

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
inal Message - > *From:* Robert Andrews > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 10:11 AM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium > > So much for being the winner by disruption... Yeah, you could see this > coming. Dear Robert has a lot of expenses

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
Right, the fanboys will probably think this is great, but in reality, they're a probably a pretty insignificant percentage of their customers. As things stand now, I use both and I use whichever product works better in any particular situation... but this sort of thing certainly leaves a bad taste

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
t anything to do with a company that would do that. On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 12:56 PM Steve Jones wrote: > I hope not they'll all sue me > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 12:53 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > >> Right, the fanboys will probably think this is great, but in reality, &g

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
0/18 4:30 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > I don’t quite understand how a radio can be legal Part 15 if it is > > running different software than what it was tested with. > > *From:* Mathew Howard > > *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 5:26 PM > > *To:* AFMUG > > *Sub

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
Cambium is not publicly traded... unless something has changed recently. On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 1:30 PM CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > wasn't aware cambium was publically traded? > > - Original Message - > *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Sent:* Friday,

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
imate they've made from elevate? > > now, don't get me wrong, i have a soft spot for both companies. they've > both made me a lot of money. > > i hate to see them doing this - - but i fully see ubnt's point of view too. > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Mathe

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
I wouldn't think so, but I can't say that I've actually read it. On Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 4:59 PM wrote: > Would the EULA keep you from using their bootloader? > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 2:43 PM > *To:* AFMUG > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sue

Re: [AFMUG] Dear WISPA...

2018-08-15 Thread Mathew Howard
or's devices. I am certain that they would sue me if I publicly > detailed the process to do so, WISP owner or not. Whether or not this is > warranted is definitely a matter of debate, likely best left up to the > courts. > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 7:15 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > &

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Dear WISPA...

2018-08-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah... it's not like you can just go download Openwrt, modify it as much as you want, without doing anything that even vaguely looks like hacking, and flash it on the things... On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 4:49 PM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 8/15/18 14:39, Mike Hammett wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Dear WISPA...

2018-08-15 Thread Mathew Howard
I suspect Cambium wouldn't care a whole lot at this point, since that hardware is all pretty much obsolete. If you did something like turning a PMP450 SM into a PTP450, then you might get a lawsuit. On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 1:46 PM Jeremy wrote: > It survived a reboot with one more minor change,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trailer plug hell

2018-08-06 Thread Mathew Howard
on, Aug 6, 2018, 8:44 AM Mathew Howard wrote: > >> The 7 pin round connector with flat pins seems to be what's most common >> these days. I think pretty much any new truck comes with that on it, and >> most newer trailers seem to have it too >> (except for small stuff, whic

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trailer plug hell

2018-08-06 Thread Mathew Howard
The 7 pin round connector with flat pins seems to be what's most common these days. I think pretty much any new truck comes with that on it, and most newer trailers seem to have it too (except for small stuff, which still usually has the 4 pin). On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 9:37 AM Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Will PMP/PTP 450i 900 MHz Work With Standard Polarity?

2018-08-06 Thread Mathew Howard
both like the ePMP line. It > would sure make it easier to transition to Cambium gear. > > I have plenty of switched pairs, but they will eventually lead to fried > gear somewhere (when someone makes the mistake of plugging in the wrong > wire). > > > -------

Re: [AFMUG] Moving Mikrotik Config from old firmware to new firmware

2018-08-07 Thread Mathew Howard
Problem with that is, a lot of new Mikrotiks have minimum versions (they can't be downgraded below something like 6.38.x). Another solution would be to make a backup, upgrade the firmware to a current version, and then make a new backup. In the event that you end up with only a backup that's from

Re: [AFMUG] does the FBI investigate DOS attacks against an ISP?

2018-08-07 Thread Mathew Howard
I suspect that's about as likely as the FBI investigating the Nigerian prince that wants my bank account information... On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:13 PM Tim Reichhart < timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote: > Most likely not > > > > > -- > -Original Message- >

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-11 Thread Mathew Howard
Get rid of electricity, and none of it's a problem! On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 11:37 AM can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > The printers aren't the problem, it's the CAD software. Ban that. Wait... > but without computers, > CAD software can't run. Ban computers! We'll

Re: [AFMUG] Credit at Versatek.com

2018-08-25 Thread Mathew Howard
His phone may not be sober... On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 5:42 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Lewis. Phone translation? > > bp > > > On 8/25/2018 3:35 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > I sober if that is legal in your state. > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium PTP400 replacement

2018-08-17 Thread Mathew Howard
Or you could spend half as much and just buy two normal Force 180's and spend an extra three minutes configuring them... On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 4:17 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > if you are going to go ePMP just buy the "bridge in a box" >

Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-18 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, as long as the channels are available for 11ghz, and the link is short enough for 18ghz to work decently, there's not going to be much difference either way. Once you get out of AF11 and B11 territory, pretty much anything can be had in 11ghz or 18ghz. On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:11 PM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

2018-07-18 Thread Mathew Howard
You're obviously going to want to change the passwords, and check over the config to make sure nothing was added that could give somebody a way back in, but I don't think there's too much to worry about beyond that. On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Tim Cailloux wrote: > Should I have specific

Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-18 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, but on the bright side, the fact that it occupies that much spectrum means that there shouldn't be any trouble upgrading to real 80mhz radios later on... On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Tim Hardy wrote: > Yeah and sadly that “56 MHz” AF11 occupies 79.6 MHz of spectrum - all > other ETSI

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

2018-07-19 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, but who knows when you'll actually be able to get your hands on those Bridgewave radios... if you need something now, it doesn't really matter if there's going to be better radios coming out "soon". On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > The 820 can’t do 80MHz channels at

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

2018-07-17 Thread Mathew Howard
They have a mode that works pretty much the same as a full duplex radio, but it's still not a true full duplex radio... and it's going to lose a lot of capacity, since it can only use a single 80mhz channel in each direction that way. I suspect that it's not going to get any more capacity than an

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

2018-07-17 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, for you, I assume working "better" would be the one with an SFP port :) On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Define "better". > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

2018-07-17 Thread Mathew Howard
So does the problem actually come from having the API service exposed to the internet, not winbox (i.e. if you have winbox exposed to the internet, but API is disabled, you should be fine)? I think I have API disabled on all of our Mikrotiks that are exposed to the internet, and all the other

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

2018-07-17 Thread Mathew Howard
With limited spectrum, it's an accurate statement. On a single polarity, 56mhz channel an AF-11 will get slightly less throughput than something like an old SAF Lumina (and the AF11 is using 1024QAM vs 256QAM, to get not even as much capacity, which means it needs a higher link budget). However,

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

2018-07-17 Thread Mathew Howard
deal? Lower cyclic prefix on AF11? > > -Adam > > > > On 7/17/2018 2:28 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > With limited spectrum, it's an accurate statement. On a single polarity, > 56mhz channel an AF-11 will get slightly less throughput than something > like an old SA

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

2018-07-17 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, you can just set it to 50/50 and pretend it's full duplex (although you really don't want to do that unless you're using sync, since it'll make the latency go way up), but there's also the mode where it transmits and receives on different channels, which should act a bit more like an FDD

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

2018-07-17 Thread Mathew Howard
ve been wondering when looking at the AF11 data >>> sheets: >>> >>> A Trango Lynx on a 56mhz channel SISO without compression yields 486mbps >>> Full Duplex at 1024QAM. >>> An AF11X SISO on the same channel size at 1024QAM yields 344mbps Full >>>

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

2018-07-17 Thread Mathew Howard
I wouldn't be too sure that was real noise... we had similar issues with our first B11 link (it even showed a ton of noise on the spectrum analyzer), and ended up having to replace the radios. After replacing those first crummy made-in-California radios, with the newer, superior Chinese

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

2018-07-17 Thread Mathew Howard
ay, July 17, 2018 8:04:57 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11 > > I’ll look but there’s nothing other than 50/50 with the 1x80 FDD option. > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 7:27 PM Mathew Howard > wrote: > >> I think those rates are what you'd get with a 50/50 traff

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

2018-07-16 Thread Mathew Howard
AF-11 is cheaper, more consistent, and more spectrally efficient. The B11 is is can do a few hundred meg more, if you have the channels available. If ~650mbps full duplex is good enough for you, I don't see any good reason to go with a B11 over an AF-11. On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 8:31 PM Matt Hoppes

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

2018-07-16 Thread Mathew Howard
Right, both have good points and bad points. Neither of them are technically as good as most other 11ghz radios, but they're both a lot cheaper, and/or are capable of more throughput. We have more AF-11 links than B11 links running at this point, because they're a better fit for those links, but

Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-23 Thread Mathew Howard
My math puts it close to $2600 for the hardware (you need two duplexors per radio, unless you're doing single polarity only). I think the last one we did was around $600 + FCC fees... which depends on whether or not you already have stuff licensed on either site, and if you're doing multiple

Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-23 Thread Mathew Howard
Yes, but you really only care about that if you have problems licensing both polarities. If I can get a complete airfiber link with all the parts and licensed for $5000 that will do 600Mbps, and it's going to cost me $6000 with some other radios to get the same capacity, I don't really care what

Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-23 Thread Mathew Howard
u.be/eKFhLoqspyE > > These radios do have ANSI modes and can fill up the full 80MHz channel for > example. > > And if you use an XPIC radio, you can double these capacities. > > Best regards > > Stephen > > > > On 19 July 2018 at 02:40, Mathew Howard wrote: &g

Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-23 Thread Mathew Howard
Right, as long as you don't need more than that 500-600mbps, and there aren't any issues with licensing both polarities, then it's really hard to justify going with anything other than AF11. It's when you need more capacity than that, or you have limited spectrum to work that things get more

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: when to detach

2018-07-22 Thread Mathew Howard
Lewis is right, if the company can't operate without one person for a week, that's a problem that needs to be fixed - and it's better to find that out when he''s on vacation than to wait until he gets hit by a bus or something... I have the same tendency to want to check on work stuff when I'm on

Re: [AFMUG] OT Nixie tubes

2018-07-21 Thread Mathew Howard
Cloth covered wire would definitely be a nice touch... On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Yes, I just found a source of old typewriter keys. I think I will connect > them to microswitches for a nice tactile feedback. > > Analog volt meter showing the capacitor voltage.

Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-18 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, those look like nice radios, but you can get that kind of bandwidth out of an AF11 (assuming you can license both polarities). It's getting beyond ~650mbps where things start getting expensive really quick. On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:28 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > We like the SAF integra-W

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

2018-07-19 Thread Mathew Howard
Probably something like SIAE that can do 4096qam... and use lots of channels. Bridgewave Navigator looks pretty promising, but I don't think that's shipping yet. On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:43 AM, wrote: > So what current product current release radio has the best throughput in > the 11 GHz

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

2018-07-19 Thread Mathew Howard
The 1.2Gbps claim is aggregate... it's somewhat deceptive marketing, that UBNT has been doing for years. It's factually correct, but as far as I know, nobody else markets full duplex radios that way. 22% less than throughput at any giving modulations compared to competing products (with the

Re: [AFMUG] CPU - when to upgrade

2018-07-24 Thread Mathew Howard
; I have no data to back this up. It's basically just the philosophy that >>> I'd rather have it and not need it than need it not have it. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Original Message -- >>> From: "Mathew Howard" >>> To: "af&quo

Re: [AFMUG] BaiCells enb power supply

2018-09-06 Thread Mathew Howard
I could sell you one... I should have a pile of them somewhere around the office. pretty much any 48 volt power supply will work fine. I don't remember what the amp rating is on the Baicells power supply off hand, but anything over 1 amp or so should be fine. On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 6:00 PM Keith

Re: [AFMUG] BaiCells enb power supply

2018-09-07 Thread Mathew Howard
te: > Our Baicells came with a Meanwell HEP-150-48A, which it turns out is sold > by Meanwell as an LED lighting power supply. > > Any 48V supply should work. The Baicells spec sheet should show the > wattage requirement. > > > On 9/6/2018 8:15 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: &g

Re: [AFMUG] Kinda OT: Surge suppression again

2018-09-07 Thread Mathew Howard
Are they backordered, or what? I've never had any difficulty getting them... Chuck makes PoE fuses now that you can put in line with them to stop Netonix ports from getting blown. On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 10:33 PM TJ Trout wrote: > I've been using Chuck's gige surge cards with netonix for years,

Re: [AFMUG] Long PTP link with epmp.

2018-07-05 Thread Mathew Howard
Personally, I wouldn't use ePMPs for that. If I was being cheap, I'd more than likely use UBNT AC radios... the Mimosas probably wouldn't be bad either, but I haven't used them myself. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:23 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: > I found the planning tool and it looks good to me. How do

Re: [AFMUG] Mimo Antenna Magic

2018-07-05 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, that works with any wifi based radio, and Canopy, but I don't know that it works with airFiber... it seems to me that I tried it once, and it work very badly, but things could've changed since then. Why don't you just use a V/H dish for the new one? If you want to use the 23dbi airfiber

Re: [AFMUG] Long PTP link with epmp.

2018-07-05 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, but that's a B5c, not a C5c... 300mbps is easily possible with a B5c, but you wouldn't use those if you're doing it on the cheap. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 10:11 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > The company I installed the AF24s for last week have a 12 mile link doing > close to 300mbps on pair of

Re: [AFMUG] Mimo Antenna Magic

2018-07-05 Thread Mathew Howard
stuff or not. > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Thursday, July 5, 2018 3:29 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimo Antenna Magic > > Yeah, that works with any wifi based radio, and Canopy, but I don't know > that it works with airFiber... it se

Re: [AFMUG] Mimo Antenna Magic

2018-07-05 Thread Mathew Howard
450 platform does not do the phase combining/differencing > that allows to go from -+90deg to -+45deg antennas without > signal/discrimination loss, as we did such a test on 900mhz 450I platform > and saw half the speed when one end was rotated 45deg. > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:29

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