Re: [AFMUG] Mercedes-Benz Metris Cargo Van

2018-11-20 Thread Nate Burke 
What problems were you seeing with the Sprinters?  I'm about to roll 80k 
miles on one, and after a bunch of exhaust problems in the first 15k 
miles, all fixed under warranty, it's just been humming along. The 
Mercedes techs at the dealership say the only issues they see with them 
are exhaust/EPA Related, and regularly see vans with 200k or 300k miles.


On 11/20/2018 12:34 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
Oh crap, we didn't have a small promaster. It was a Ford transit 
connect. That slurred my memory. That thing was junk. Maybe they are 
better now. I think we bought the second year model made.


On Tue, Nov 20, 2018, 9:27 AM Mark Radabaugh > wrote:


The Ram Promasters (full size) have been good to us - have 3 that
have been pretty trouble free.   The first one (about 4 years old
now) had some initial wiring issues but has settled down.   The
two Ford’s Transit (full size) have been good as well.

The 3 Mercedes vans (the old Dodge Sprinters, etc.) ended up being
complete pieces of shit and are all gone from the fleet.  The
diesels and drivetrain had nothing but problems - engines,
transmissions, and driveline. Mercedes didn’t have a clue how to
fix them and just threw expensive parts and billed you for them
even when it didn’t fix the issues.   Never buying any of their
crap again.

Mark


On Nov 20, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Darin Steffl
mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:

Does anyone have the Metris cargo van in their fleet? We have had
the WORST issues with our Ram ProMaster City's and they're
complete junk. They've both been in the shop more than 30 days
cumulative each over the last 3 years so they're gone.

I wish Toyota would bring their Proace over to the US as they're
the most reliable brand known to man and we've never had trouble.
Ram on the other hand is junk...

So hopefully someone has some insight into the MB Metris cargo
van? The specs show they're larger and have more cargo space than
the Promaster city, transit connect, nv200, etc. so that would be
nice. It does require Premium fuel though which sucks.

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Re: [AFMUG] Mercedes-Benz Metris Cargo Van

2018-11-20 Thread Lewis Bergman 
Oh crap, we didn't have a small promaster. It was a Ford transit connect.
That slurred my memory. That thing was junk. Maybe they are better now. I
think we bought the second year model made.

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018, 9:27 AM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:

> The Ram Promasters (full size) have been good to us - have 3 that have
> been pretty trouble free.   The first one (about 4 years old now) had some
> initial wiring issues but has settled down.   The two Ford’s Transit (full
> size) have been good as well.
>
> The 3 Mercedes vans (the old Dodge Sprinters, etc.) ended up being
> complete pieces of shit and are all gone from the fleet.  The diesels and
> drivetrain had nothing but problems - engines, transmissions, and
> driveline.   Mercedes didn’t have a clue how to fix them and just threw
> expensive parts and billed you for them even when it didn’t fix the issues.
>   Never buying any of their crap again.
>
> Mark
>
> On Nov 20, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Darin Steffl  wrote:
>
> Does anyone have the Metris cargo van in their fleet? We have had the
> WORST issues with our Ram ProMaster City's and they're complete junk.
> They've both been in the shop more than 30 days cumulative each over the
> last 3 years so they're gone.
>
> I wish Toyota would bring their Proace over to the US as they're the most
> reliable brand known to man and we've never had trouble. Ram on the other
> hand is junk...
>
> So hopefully someone has some insight into the MB Metris cargo van? The
> specs show they're larger and have more cargo space than the Promaster
> city, transit connect, nv200, etc. so that would be nice. It does require
> Premium fuel though which sucks.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Mercedes-Benz Metris Cargo Van

2018-11-20 Thread Mark Radabaugh 
The Ram Promasters (full size) have been good to us - have 3 that have been 
pretty trouble free.   The first one (about 4 years old now) had some initial 
wiring issues but has settled down.   The two Ford’s Transit (full size) have 
been good as well.

The 3 Mercedes vans (the old Dodge Sprinters, etc.) ended up being complete 
pieces of shit and are all gone from the fleet.  The diesels and drivetrain had 
nothing but problems - engines, transmissions, and driveline.   Mercedes didn’t 
have a clue how to fix them and just threw expensive parts and billed you for 
them even when it didn’t fix the issues.   Never buying any of their crap again.

Mark

> On Nov 20, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Darin Steffl  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have the Metris cargo van in their fleet? We have had the WORST 
> issues with our Ram ProMaster City's and they're complete junk. They've both 
> been in the shop more than 30 days cumulative each over the last 3 years so 
> they're gone.
> 
> I wish Toyota would bring their Proace over to the US as they're the most 
> reliable brand known to man and we've never had trouble. Ram on the other 
> hand is junk...
> 
> So hopefully someone has some insight into the MB Metris cargo van? The specs 
> show they're larger and have more cargo space than the Promaster city, 
> transit connect, nv200, etc. so that would be nice. It does require Premium 
> fuel though which sucks.
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Mercedes-Benz Metris Cargo Van

2018-11-20 Thread Nate Burke 
I test drove a metris (passenger) last year, it would continually shift 
gears, but drove OK.  Driving around the Chicago metro, I see Lots of 
work vans on the road.  I hardly see any Metris vans.  I don't know 
why.  Without keeping an exact count, of the small style van, it seems 
that the most common is Ford, 2nd is Ram.


On 11/20/2018 8:30 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
Does anyone have the Metris cargo van in their fleet? We have had the 
WORST issues with our Ram ProMaster City's and they're complete junk. 
They've both been in the shop more than 30 days cumulative each over 
the last 3 years so they're gone.


I wish Toyota would bring their Proace over to the US as they're the 
most reliable brand known to man and we've never had trouble. Ram on 
the other hand is junk...


So hopefully someone has some insight into the MB Metris cargo van? 
The specs show they're larger and have more cargo space than the 
Promaster city, transit connect, nv200, etc. so that would be nice. It 
does require Premium fuel though which sucks.


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Re: [AFMUG] Mercedes-Benz Metris Cargo Van

2018-11-20 Thread Lewis Bergman 
I think it is important to draw a distinction between the Promaster series
and the Promaster City. I had a city and got rid of it at 65000 miles.
Mainly because it was too small with to low clearance but it did break down
more often than anything I had before.

I have two Promaster series full size and other than one recall we haven't
done anything other than change oil.

I know you are talking about the smaller ones, just clarifying. We are 200
miles from a Mercedes dealer so I have never had experience with them.

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018, 8:32 AM Darin Steffl  wrote:

> Does anyone have the Metris cargo van in their fleet? We have had the
> WORST issues with our Ram ProMaster City's and they're complete junk.
> They've both been in the shop more than 30 days cumulative each over the
> last 3 years so they're gone.
>
> I wish Toyota would bring their Proace over to the US as they're the most
> reliable brand known to man and we've never had trouble. Ram on the other
> hand is junk...
>
> So hopefully someone has some insight into the MB Metris cargo van? The
> specs show they're larger and have more cargo space than the Promaster
> city, transit connect, nv200, etc. so that would be nice. It does require
> Premium fuel though which sucks.
>
>
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