Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread chuck 
A 450 translator would be a cool device. 
5G in and some other frequency out.  

Essentially an SM and AP in one box.  

SM circuit for the backhaul, AP for the micropop.  Maintains timing etc.  

From: Carl Peterson 
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

Because you have a few thousand 450 subs and don't wan't to have to stock your 
vans with something new. 
Because you want to unload some of your sectors without re-installing 
customers, just a repoint.  Being able to move 20-30 subs off a sector to a 
micropop is huge. 

Because you want consistency for your back office and support staff.

Because you need to pay a lineman to put it up on a pole above the Electrical 
space and don't want to touch it for 5-8 years. (I have no idea what ePMP 
reliability looks like but have had plenty FSK etc gear up for 10+ years) 


For me, the perfect 450 micropop would be an omni 450M with Direct DC input, an 
SFP, a copper port, and an integrated GPS receiver.  1A 48V POE out would be 
nice too.  Something in the 1-1.5K price range to support 20-30 subs with a 
form factor like the A5-19.  I could power it and a Siklu with a two 48V runs 
up the pole, or just it with fiber and DC up the pole.  


On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 10:47 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

  Ok, I guess I have to be the one to say this. Why would we want a 450-based 
micro-POP product when we have ePMP? Just askin'.


  On 6/7/2018 10:29 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:

I would really like to get your opinions on this topic� would a 450 
device like this help you in your network?

�

Now�s you chance to comment and help direct us!

�

Please fill out the short survey and add any other info you�d like.� 
It�s only 16 questions.

�

Matt

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Jay Weekley 
I added up around 15 different models of radios that we may run into 
during a day.  The van gets crowded.


Colin Stanners wrote:
In our company we have 900FSK, 2.4FSK, 2.4 450, 3.65 WiMAX, 3.65 450, 
5ghz 430 and 5ghz 450 SMs... really trying to minimize the number of 
radio models but there isn't much that you can do due to history, 
existing customer base, cost of upgrades and interference/trees in 
different areas. At least everything that isn't 900mhz / WiMAX works 
on the same reflector dishes, that is a lifesaver.


We absolutely can't start adding ePMP radios in the mix, as in 
addition to van space / stocking requirements it has a different GUI / 
SNMP / standards which would require re-training everyone (there's a 
lot of "cabling" guys who aren't whizzes with that) and ePMP doesn't 
seem to work too well on dishes due to the multi-element panel antennas.


On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 9:47 PM, George Skorup 
mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote:


Ok, I guess I have to be the one to say this. Why would we want a
450-based micro-POP product when we have ePMP? Just askin'.

On 6/7/2018 10:29 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:


I would really like to get your opinions on this topic� would a
450 device like this help you in your network?

�

Now�s you chance to comment and help direct us!

�

Please fill out the short survey and add any other info you�d
like.� It�s only 16 questions.

�

Matt

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Carl Peterson 
Because you have a few thousand 450 subs and don't wan't to have to stock
your vans with something new.
Because you want to unload some of your sectors without re-installing
customers, just a repoint.  Being able to move 20-30 subs off a sector to a
micropop is huge.
Because you want consistency for your back office and support staff.
Because you need to pay a lineman to put it up on a pole above the
Electrical space and don't want to touch it for 5-8 years. (I have no idea
what ePMP reliability looks like but have had plenty FSK etc gear up for
10+ years)

For me, the perfect 450 micropop would be an omni 450M with Direct DC
input, an SFP, a copper port, and an integrated GPS receiver.  1A 48V POE
out would be nice too.  Something in the 1-1.5K price range to support
20-30 subs with a form factor like the A5-19.  I could power it and a Siklu
with a two 48V runs up the pole, or just it with fiber and DC up the pole.


On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 10:47 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Ok, I guess I have to be the one to say this. Why would we want a
> 450-based micro-POP product when we have ePMP? Just askin'.
>
> On 6/7/2018 10:29 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
>
> I would really like to get your opinions on this topic� would a 450
> device like this help you in your network?
>
> �
>
> Now�s you chance to comment and help direct us!
>
> �
>
> Please fill out the short survey and add any other info you�d like.�
> It�s only 16 questions.
>
> �
>
> Matt
>
> �
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Dave 

Have you seen the Force 200 radios :)
Our guys love em for our 2 little micro-pops using epmp1000 sectors
Fixing to have to look at higher capacity at one of the micropops


On 06/08/2018 11:22 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:
In our company we have 900FSK, 2.4FSK, 2.4 450, 3.65 WiMAX, 3.65 450, 
5ghz 430 and 5ghz 450 SMs... really trying to minimize the number of 
radio models but there isn't much that you can do due to history, 
existing customer base, cost of upgrades and interference/trees in 
different areas. At least everything that isn't 900mhz / WiMAX works 
on the same reflector dishes, that is a lifesaver.


We absolutely can't start adding ePMP radios in the mix, as in 
addition to van space / stocking requirements it has a different GUI / 
SNMP / standards which would require re-training everyone (there's a 
lot of "cabling" guys who aren't whizzes with that) and ePMP doesn't 
seem to work too well on dishes due to the multi-element panel antennas.


On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 9:47 PM, George Skorup 
mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote:


Ok, I guess I have to be the one to say this. Why would we want a
450-based micro-POP product when we have ePMP? Just askin'.

On 6/7/2018 10:29 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:


I would really like to get your opinions on this topic� would a
450 device like this help you in your network?

�

Now�s you chance to comment and help direct us!

�

Please fill out the short survey and add any other info you�d
like.� It�s only 16 questions.

�

Matt

�

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*To:* 'af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>' 
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*Subject* [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Colin Stanners 
In our company we have 900FSK, 2.4FSK, 2.4 450, 3.65 WiMAX, 3.65 450, 5ghz
430 and 5ghz 450 SMs... really trying to minimize the number of radio
models but there isn't much that you can do due to history, existing
customer base, cost of upgrades and interference/trees in different areas.
At least everything that isn't 900mhz / WiMAX works on the same reflector
dishes, that is a lifesaver.

We absolutely can't start adding ePMP radios in the mix, as in addition to
van space / stocking requirements it has a different GUI / SNMP / standards
which would require re-training everyone (there's a lot of "cabling" guys
who aren't whizzes with that) and ePMP doesn't seem to work too well on
dishes due to the multi-element panel antennas.

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 9:47 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Ok, I guess I have to be the one to say this. Why would we want a
> 450-based micro-POP product when we have ePMP? Just askin'.
>
> On 6/7/2018 10:29 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
>
> I would really like to get your opinions on this topic� would a 450
> device like this help you in your network?
>
> �
>
> Now�s you chance to comment and help direct us!
>
> �
>
> Please fill out the short survey and add any other info you�d like.�
> It�s only 16 questions.
>
> �
>
> Matt
>
> �
>
> *From:* Af   *On Behalf Of *Ray
> Savich
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 7, 2018 10:08 AM
> *To:* 'af@afmug.com'  
> *Subject* [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey
>
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>
> Add your input to the Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey.
>
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/CambiumMicroPOP
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Faisal Imtiaz 
Simple reason.. 

The need to deliver Next Gen level of Internet Service BW. 
(50meg/100meg/150meg/200meg/300meg + ) on a per client basis. 

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Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "George Skorup" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 10:47:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

> Ok, I guess I have to be the one to say this. Why would we want a 450-based
> micro-POP product when we have ePMP? Just askin'.

> On 6/7/2018 10:29 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:

>> I would really like to get your opinions on this topic� would a 450 device
>> like this help you in your network?

>> �

>> Now�s you chance to comment and help direct us!

>> �

>> Please fill out the short survey and add any other info you�d like.� 
>> It�s
>> only 16 questions.

>> �

>> Matt

>> �

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>> To: ' af@afmug.com ' 
>> Subject [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-07 Thread Mathew Howard 
I could see somebody that has an all 450 network wanting something like
that, but since we have no 450 (other than 900mhz... ), I'd have no use for
such a thing.

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 9:47 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Ok, I guess I have to be the one to say this. Why would we want a
> 450-based micro-POP product when we have ePMP? Just askin'.
>
> On 6/7/2018 10:29 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
>
> I would really like to get your opinions on this topic� would a 450
> device like this help you in your network?
>
> �
>
> Now�s you chance to comment and help direct us!
>
> �
>
> Please fill out the short survey and add any other info you�d like.�
> It�s only 16 questions.
>
> �
>
> Matt
>
> �
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-07 Thread Steve Jones 
cause the operator is trying to get off meth and figure if they waste all
their money buying more AP than is required they wont have any money for
the crank

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 9:47 PM George Skorup 
wrote:

> Ok, I guess I have to be the one to say this. Why would we want a
> 450-based micro-POP product when we have ePMP? Just askin'.
>
> On 6/7/2018 10:29 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
>
> I would really like to get your opinions on this topic� would a 450
> device like this help you in your network?
>
> �
>
> Now�s you chance to comment and help direct us!
>
> �
>
> Please fill out the short survey and add any other info you�d like.�
> It�s only 16 questions.
>
> �
>
> Matt
>
> �
>
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> Savich
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-07 Thread George Skorup 
Ok, I guess I have to be the one to say this. Why would we want a 
450-based micro-POP product when we have ePMP? Just askin'.


On 6/7/2018 10:29 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:


I would really like to get your opinions on this topic� would a 450 
device like this help you in your network?


Now�s you chance to comment and help direct us!

Please fill out the short survey and add any other info you�d like.� 
It�s only 16 questions.


Matt

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[AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-07 Thread Matt Mangriotis 
I would really like to get your opinions on this topic... would a 450 device 
like this help you in your network?

Now's you chance to comment and help direct us!

Please fill out the short survey and add any other info you'd like.  It's only 
16 questions.

Matt

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[AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-07 Thread Ray Savich 
Add your input to the Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/CambiumMicroPOP


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