Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Pledge drive

2018-02-19 Thread Mathew Howard 
Nice!

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Done!
>
> http://www.afmug.com/
>
>
> This is the best cult this side of Waco...
>
> A new slogan for AF!!!
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:05 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
>
> It works fine here. Problem free(ish). Those that want to donate can cover
> the costs. Pauls been very reliable, and never needs a snickers so little
> to no risk of an "i quit"
>
> Id say we should just have a swear jar, but i dont have that kind of money.
>
> One option would be to stick half the fund drive into something with
> crypto coin shennanigans, cash out 1/2 biannually. But then taxes
> somewhere...
>
> Having it third party hosted in the manner that it is keeps the list
> outside any individuals attitude, which is pretty good idea. Sure paul can
> cancel an account, but he cant just power down a vm, throttle a connection,
> not feel like dealing with a blacklist issue, withdraw vm host resources,
> etc, not that i think he would.
>
> Not directed at you mike, just a generalization.
>
> Maybe pimp some friday spam access to some non list member vendors for a
> fee, but we all know, once they come see this place, theyll join up. This
> is the best cult this side of waco.
>
> On Feb 18, 2018 5:10 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> These guys:
>> https://www.emwd.com/mailman-hosting/
>> advertise they can do it for $3/month.
>>
>> Perhaps they can.  I just don’t want to make a change I will regret.  And
>> I do not want to have to personally be the mechanic.
>>
>> *From:* Ryan Ray
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:02 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
>>
>> I agree. Toss some money at him, I'm sure we can spare it
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep... this always comes up. I think the consensus has always been that
>>> it's easier for those of us who are willing, to just chip in occasionally
>>> and keep it as is, then to mess with what's been working well.
>>>
>>> On Feb 18, 2018 1:36 PM, "Robert Andrews" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Seems like this same conversation came up last year.   Folks, if you
 don't want to pay, propose doing the work.   Seems like it's well worth 100
 bucks for the enjoyment I get out of it.  I pay way more than that for
 things way less enjoyable, but necessary to keep peace at home...

 On 02/18/2018 11:30 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

> Then is a pledge drive needed?
>
> Blacklists are the recipients problems. Not the mailing list owners
> problem - as long as nothing shady is going on.
>
> On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:15, Mike Hammett > wrote:
>
> Those that run the list are happy to pay for not dealing with
>> blacklists, etc. whatever SES provides.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> > telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> > /company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From: *"Matt Hoppes"  mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com 
>> *Sent: *Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:12:56 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
>>
>> What is SES?  Amazon?
>>
>> That seems overkill for a mailing list.
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:09, Mike Hammett  af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>
>> SES
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> > telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> > /company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>>

[AFMUG] Fw: Pledge drive

2018-02-19 Thread Chuck McCown 
Done!

http://www.afmug.com/

This is the best cult this side of Waco...

A new slogan for AF!!!

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

It works fine here. Problem free(ish). Those that want to donate can cover the 
costs. Pauls been very reliable, and never needs a snickers so little to no 
risk of an "i quit" 

Id say we should just have a swear jar, but i dont have that kind of money.

One option would be to stick half the fund drive into something with crypto 
coin shennanigans, cash out 1/2 biannually. But then taxes somewhere...

Having it third party hosted in the manner that it is keeps the list outside 
any individuals attitude, which is pretty good idea. Sure paul can cancel an 
account, but he cant just power down a vm, throttle a connection, not feel like 
dealing with a blacklist issue, withdraw vm host resources, etc, not that i 
think he would.

Not directed at you mike, just a generalization. 

Maybe pimp some friday spam access to some non list member vendors for a fee, 
but we all know, once they come see this place, theyll join up. This is the 
best cult this side of waco. 

On Feb 18, 2018 5:10 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  These guys:
  https://www.emwd.com/mailman-hosting/
  advertise they can do it for $3/month.  

  Perhaps they can.  I just don’t want to make a change I will regret.  And I 
do not want to have to personally be the mechanic.  

  From: Ryan Ray 
  Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:02 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

  I agree. Toss some money at him, I'm sure we can spare it 

  On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

Yep... this always comes up. I think the consensus has always been that 
it's easier for those of us who are willing, to just chip in occasionally and 
keep it as is, then to mess with what's been working well. 

On Feb 18, 2018 1:36 PM, "Robert Andrews"  wrote:

  Seems like this same conversation came up last year.   Folks, if you 
don't want to pay, propose doing the work.   Seems like it's well worth 100 
bucks for the enjoyment I get out of it.  I pay way more than that for things 
way less enjoyable, but necessary to keep peace at home...

  On 02/18/2018 11:30 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

Then is a pledge drive needed?

Blacklists are the recipients problems. Not the mailing list owners 
problem - as long as nothing shady is going on.

On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:15, Mike Hammett > wrote:


  Those that run the list are happy to pay for not dealing with 
blacklists, etc. whatever SES provides.



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions 
  

  Midwest Internet Exchange 
  

  The Brothers WISP 
  


  
  

  *From: *"Matt Hoppes" >
  *To: *af@afmug.com 
  *Sent: *Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:12:56 PM
  *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

  What is SES?  Amazon?

  That seems overkill for a mailing list.

  On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:09, Mike Hammett > wrote:

  SES



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions 
  

  Midwest Internet Exchange 
  

  The Brothers WISP 
  


  
  

  *From: *"Matt Hoppes" >
  *To: *af@afmug.com