Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

2017-08-07 Thread Chuck McCown
Not enough choice in rate plans in the google section. And they did not cover everyone. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 1:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs Sure, but why/how/which part is substandard

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

2017-08-07 Thread fiberrun
Sure, but why/how/which part is substandard? Jared > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs > > iProvo sold out (gave the system away) to Google. Still subst

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

2017-08-07 Thread fiberrun
True, but it would be nice to have the real, up to date data and projections on all the projects. Jared > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs > > Well

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

2017-08-07 Thread Chuck McCown
To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs I've also read rebuttals and critiques of that same report, all without adding too much clarity to the issue. For sure the report has some shortfalls and errors, but the whole thing is turning more or less into a he said, she said

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

2017-08-07 Thread fiberrun
using up to date hard data from an independent source. Jared > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 > From: "Layne Sisk" <la...@serverplus.com> > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs > > Here is the study:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

2017-08-07 Thread Layne Sisk
:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs iProvo sold out (gave the system away) to Google. Still substandard. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 11:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

2017-08-07 Thread Chuck McCown
iProvo sold out (gave the system away) to Google. Still substandard. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 11:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs That's interesting. Can you share more details about being a service

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

2017-08-07 Thread Jay Weekley
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs Here is an editorial in the Deseret News today. It is just an opinion. And I know Roger has been a reader of this list (Roger runs UTOPIA). But I have always

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

2017-08-06 Thread fiberrun
networks for a while and sold them > off since they were always substandard and profit was driven to minimum. > > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:46 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

2017-08-06 Thread Sterling Jacobson
. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs Here is an editorial in the Deseret News today. It is just an opinion. And I know Roger has been

[AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

2017-08-06 Thread chuck
Here is an editorial in the Deseret News today. It is just an opinion. And I know Roger has been a reader of this list (Roger runs UTOPIA). But I have always been against municipal ISPs on principle. Some things the government is good at, some things they are not good at. Roads and Streets