Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread Cameron Crum
onest > than 50% to 100%. > In other words, 3 dB down in receiver voltage is within the normal daily > fluctuations. > Not going to make or break a connection. > > 6 dB down is significant and could cause trouble. > > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Wednesday, Ap

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
RQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com> > *Sent: *Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:08:18 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements > > There's mountains near

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From: "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> &

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread chuck
trouble. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:29 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements I'm not sure if the RF Elements horns are rated at 3db or 6db, but I know RF Elements list the beamwidth at both points for their normal sectors (which is the best way to do it, if you ask

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread Robert
well characterized.  They are used as lab standard calibration antennas.  Other than the point where they choose to specify the beamwidth I think you can totally trust the specs. *From:* Steve Jones *Sent:* Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:01 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements so

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread Mike Hammett
To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:12:30 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements Low gain but no side lobes, just one spot beam. The 30* unit is the only one with a decent gain. If you go any wider than 30* then the gain is too low in my opinion. But you can use lots of 30* an

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread Mathew Howard
on antennas. Other than the point where they > choose to specify the beamwidth I think you can totally trust the specs. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:01 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements > > so if im getting the rig

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread chuck
characterized. They are used as lab standard calibration antennas. Other than the point where they choose to specify the beamwidth I think you can totally trust the specs. From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements so if im

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread Steve Jones
ebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> -- >>> *From: *"Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.u

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread Steve Jones
x> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread Mathew Howard
t;i...@avantwireless.com> > > To: af@afmug.com > > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:12:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements > > > I recently did a couple of tests with RF horns. I was hoping for a lot > > and was disappointed. I was hoping that they could be c

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread Mike Hammett
ril 11, 2018 9:08:18 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements There's mountains near Steve's WISP footprint? Jaime Solorza On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 7:45 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: You have that the other way around. A horn would be ideal in a mountain area.

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:49:19 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
s://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From: "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us <mailto:af..

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread Mike Hammett
: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:49:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements I Totally agree with josh. They have a specific purpose so if you can deploy within those parameters they are great. Unfortunately our area isn’t conducive to that type of deployment because of terrain. In the mo

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-11 Thread Dave
gt; To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:12:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements I recently did a couple of tests with RF horns. I was hoping for a lot and was disappointed. I was hoping that they could be colocated closer than regular sectors that I use and the crosstalk signal le

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-10 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
tion 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "Robert" <i...@avantwireless.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:12:48 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements > I recently did a couple of tests with

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-10 Thread Sean Heskett
I Totally agree with josh. They have a specific purpose so if you can deploy within those parameters they are great. Unfortunately our area isn’t conducive to that type of deployment because of terrain. In the mountains you need antennas with a wider vertical beam because your towers are on mtn

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-10 Thread Steve Jones
Thats what im looking for,, spec sheet based results, not "i did AA" and it didnt work, or "i did ABCDEFG" AND IT GOT 400 miles at 300 mbs per sub" I see alot of 30 degre poles with multiple antennas, but no aftermath. I just have no tool to plot them, though i heard link planner added

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-10 Thread Mathew Howard
I concur. I've only used a couple of them, because we don't have a lot of places where 30 degree sectors make sense, and the gain is just too low on the others. On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 9:12 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > Low gain but no side lobes, just one spot beam. > > The 30* unit

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
They are great for stuff like 30/40Mhz wide, gps sync, put 4-6 on a pole in a subdivision or on a tower leg kinda thing. If anybody thought they were for something else (ie long range), they didn't read the data sheets. Lightweight, low size, low wind load, perfectly circular pattern - great

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-10 Thread Robert
I recently did a couple of tests with RF horns. I was hoping for a lot and was disappointed. I was hoping that they could be colocated closer than regular sectors that I use and the crosstalk signal levels were just about the same as the shielded sectors. As far as the signals at the

Re: [AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-10 Thread Sean Heskett
Low gain but no side lobes, just one spot beam. The 30* unit is the only one with a decent gain. If you go any wider than 30* then the gain is too low in my opinion. But you can use lots of 30* antennas per tower and with GPS sync you can Re-use channels if you need. 2 cents -Sean On Tue,

[AFMUG] Rfelements

2018-04-10 Thread Steve Jones
Can i get some non fanboy real world on these guys? Btw, i hate facebook groups almost as much as dslreports or the ubnt forums, this is literally the only place to get legitimate product info.