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f the client radios? > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:05 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp > > > > I have an aggregate capaci

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Do you actually see that in the real world or is that theoretical capacity? Also, what is the maximum speed of the client radios? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp

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ly use towers. I'd rather find a few lower >locations that have easy access than a single tower but that's not always >realistic. > >Rory > >-Original Message- >From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt >Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018

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obably never >>> > have >>> > something like that. >>> > UI is still sluggish on ePMP. >>> > >>> > On the other hand ePMP has gotten so many feature improvements over >>> > these >>>

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for next generation products also. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp How much total frequency are you using with 12 horns deployed at a site? What does your frequency re-use

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ot all that > great. > >>> > >>> I am far more excited by the 9 client simultaneous transmissions in > >>> 802.11ax via OFDMA. > >>> > >>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 8:00 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote: >

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...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 1:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp At the moment I would wait to see what this LTU is all about. Should soon arrive at US Beta store. An airfiber class radio mounted to horns may give a real boost

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ry > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 1:59 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp > > At the moment I would wait to see what this LTU is all about. Should soon >

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egate > them to 10GE and feed them with a Licensed gear right up there. You only > need to bring 48V DC up to the tower. > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Josh Reynolds > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. Februar 2018 09:34 &

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..@genias.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/13/2018 3:58:33 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp At the moment I would wait to see what this LTU is all about. Should soon arrive at US Beta store. An airfiber class radio mounted to horns may give a real boost. There would be a lot capacity even using

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cht- > Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Josh Reynolds > Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. Februar 2018 09:34 > An: af@afmug.com > Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp > > I agree, it makes sense if you already have a cambium network on 450. > > For greenfield? Probably not

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with in above perfect conditions, gives >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> 3.57 Mbps per subscriber. Roughly 4M/sub, good for 480p streaming. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's a very expensive platform for that kind of throughput and >>>>>>>

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ly hard to argue with the value it provides. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/12/2018 8:27:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp The UI server was probably the worst I have ever seen. So, less than 25 subs per site, wha

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; >> >> > (increasing distance and SNR in many situations), and greatly >> >> >> > reduced >> >> >> > cost. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Again, I'm far more excited about the 4x increase in spectral >> >>

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and will > >> >> > always be a niche hack that never lived up to what was promised. > >> >> > > >> >> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 12:12 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> Being abl

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>> Being able to load a 450m AP with 80 subs and deliver 30mbps service >> >> >> to >> >> >> all >> >> >> of them at peak Netflix time in a 20mhz channel without breaking a >> >> >> sweat is >> >> >> w

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gt; >> 2 cents > >> >> > >> >> -sean > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:32 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com > > > >> >> wrote: >

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gt; >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> The more I dig into MU-MIMO, the more I realize it's not all that >> >>> great. >> >>> >> >>> I am far more excited by the 9 client simultaneous transmissions in >> >>> 802.11a

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smissions in > >>> 802.11ax via OFDMA. > >>> > >>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 8:00 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > 450 still does a few things that ePMP doesn't. > >>> > Plus there's that 14 chain MU

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s that 14 chain MU-MIMO thing..ePMP will probably never >>> > have >>> > something like that. >>> > UI is still sluggish on ePMP. >>> > >>> > On the other hand ePMP has gotten so many feature improvements over >>> > these >

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ears that it's gotten really hard to argue with the value it >> > provides. >> > >> > >> > -- Original Message -- >> > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >> > To: af@afmug.com >> > Sent: 2/12/2018 8:27:56 P

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> >> > something like that. > >> > UI is still sluggish on ePMP. > >> > > >> > On the other hand ePMP has gotten so many feature improvements over > >> > these > >> > past few years that it's gotten really hard to argue with the

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ts over >> > these >> > past few years that it's gotten really hard to argue with the value it >> > provides. >> > >> > >> > -- Original Message -- >> > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >> > To: af@afmug.

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has gotten so many feature improvements over these > > past few years that it's gotten really hard to argue with the value it > > provides. > > > > > > -- Original Message -- > > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> > > To: af@afmug.com

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ith the value it > provides. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 2/12/2018 8:27:56 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp > > The UI server was probably the worst I have ever seen. > > So, less tha

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Broadwick - Lists Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 9:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp I love the AF-11 for its price point and overall value. It’s a great product to use to build out an 11GHz backbone if you don’t need the speed of the big iron in the immediate future. Jeff

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more than 50 customers. >>>> >>>> I have not had much experience with ePMP in the last 4 years. I didn’t >>>> like it when it first came out. >>>> >>>> From: Joe Novak >>>> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 4:56 PM >>

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Why not both? They rob themselves and also rob Ubiquiti, but that's better than letting Ubiquiti eat their lunch. -- Original Message -- From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/12/2018 11:09:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp I was

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ustomers. > > I have not had much experience with ePMP in the last 4 years. I didn’t > like it when it first came out. > > *From:* Joe Novak > *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 4:56 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp > > We have a few towers with

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me out. *From:* Joe Novak *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 4:56 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp We have a few towers with AF5x and Cambium EPMP co-existing. Some have vertical separation, some are grain elevators. Just gotta have some frequen

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cCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 9:44:55 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp Back in the day, the 5.2 band was limited to indoor or low power. Is that limitation gone? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 6:50 PM To: af@af

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Back in the day, the 5.2 band was limited to indoor or low power. Is that limitation gone? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 6:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp These days you have lots of 5.x ghz to work with. You've got 5.1 through 5.8 minus

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4 years. I didn’t > like it when it first came out. > > *From:* Joe Novak > *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 4:56 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp > > We have a few towers with AF5x and Cambium EPMP co-existing. Some have > vertical separation, so

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k *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 5:20 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp What didn't you like about it? The interface came a long way since the early days of EPMP. We've got quite a bit deployed. A lot of people are having weird GPS situations come up with the on-board GPS, we h

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of the middle. Any products will coexist when you have that much room to spread them around. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 2/12/2018 6:32:04 PM Subject: [AFMUG] mi

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to argue with the value it provides. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/12/2018 8:27:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp The UI server was probably the worst I have ever seen. So, less than 25 subs per site, what s

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gt; wrote: > > I never use an AF5X anywhere. I used Orthogon when they first came out and > had good luck. > > From: Jon Langeler > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 4:47 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp > > He’ll need some frequency separati

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ears. I didn’t > like it when it first came out. > > *From:* Joe Novak > *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 4:56 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp > > We have a few towers with AF5x and Cambium EPMP co-existing. Some have > vertical separation, som

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g.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/12/2018 6:32:04 PM Subject: [AFMUG] mini wisp Talking to a friend that wants to build a small wisp. He is about 5.5 miles from a backbone connection. I would suggest AF5X to him but he is gonna want to use 5 GHz for his wisp I presume. Can an AF5X and so

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The UI server was probably the worst I have ever seen. So, less than 25 subs per site, what speed packages do you sell to those 25? Packetflux GPS sync. From: Joe Novak Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 5:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp What didn't you like about

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; I have not had much experience with ePMP in the last 4 years. I didn’t > like it when it first came out. > > *From:* Joe Novak > *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 4:56 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp > > We have a few towers with AF5x and C

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How much bandwidth do you have to provide to the clients? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Novak Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 5:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp What didn't you like about it? The interface came a long way since the early days

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> Jaime Solorza >> >> On Feb 12, 2018 4:43 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> All on the same tower, right? >>> >>> *From:* Jaime Solorza >>> *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 4:41 PM >>> *To:* Anima

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ver have more than 50 customers. > > I have not had much experience with ePMP in the last 4 years. I didn’t like > it when it first came out. > > From: Joe Novak > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 4:56 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp > >

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t had much experience with ePMP in the last 4 years. I didn’t > like it when it first came out. > > *From:* Joe Novak > *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 4:56 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp > > We have a few towers with AF5x and Cambium EPMP co-ex

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..@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> All on the same tower, right? >> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 4:41 PM >> *To:* Animal Farm >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp >> >> Yes..I have two AF5X links as PTP and 25 radios all in

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@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp We have a few towers with AF5x and Cambium EPMP co-existing. Some have vertical separation, some are grain elevators. Just gotta have some frequency separation. I really like them. Latency under load is good, it's a purpose built radio and I think it serves

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mile radius... > > Jaime Solorza > > On Feb 12, 2018 4:43 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> All on the same tower, right? >> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 4:41 PM >> *To:* Animal Farm >> *Subjec

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y, February 12, 2018 4:41 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp > > Yes..I have two AF5X links as PTP and 25 radios all in 5 GHz off 4 APs in > Fabens, Texas sharing spectrum with 3 WISPs...no issues... > > Jaime Solorza > > On Feb 12, 2018 4:32 PM, "Chu

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I never use an AF5X anywhere. I used Orthogon when they first came out and had good luck. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 4:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp He’ll need some frequency separation. Hey I thought you would’ve know all this stuff a long

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olorza > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 4:41 PM > To: Animal Farm > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp > > Yes..I have two AF5X links as PTP and 25 radios all in 5 GHz off 4 APs in > Fabens, Texas sharing spectrum with 3 WISPs...no issues... > > Jaime Solorza > >> On

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All on the same tower, right? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 4:41 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp Yes..I have two AF5X links as PTP and 25 radios all in 5 GHz off 4 APs in Fabens, Texas sharing spectrum with 3 WISPs...no issues... Jaime Solorza On Feb

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Yes..I have two AF5X links as PTP and 25 radios all in 5 GHz off 4 APs in Fabens, Texas sharing spectrum with 3 WISPs...no issues... Jaime Solorza On Feb 12, 2018 4:32 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Talking to a friend that wants to build a small wisp. He is about 5.5 > miles

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Talking to a friend that wants to build a small wisp. He is about 5.5 miles from a backbone connection. I would suggest AF5X to him but he is gonna want to use 5 GHz for his wisp I presume. Can an AF5X and some 5 GHz cambium (or others) access points peacefully coexist on a tower? Very